Adrenals

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> finally got an appointment with 'a' gp this morning and I'm going to ask for a cortisol, aldesterone and DHEA test. Doubt that they'll do it though......I'm in a right state; falling over, being sick, hypo g and jumping at the slightest noise. ZERO help from bloke or family.... nice.When you're ill for a long time people just get bored of you.> I'm going to start the Cortef treatment as suggested in Dr Hardings info in the FILES. I'm still not sure if its ok to take NA alongside this.......... does anyone know for sure please ?

Hello ,

I'm so sorry.... It's really sad when your nearest and dearest don't show any support when you feel so awful.

Good luck with your requests - I will be waiting for your update, in particular about getting an aldosterone test. I asked my (usually very willing) GP for one and he declined - said it had to be a referral to a specialists for an ACTH test or nothing..... wonder if you will have more luck.

However, none of the tests you are after will give a true reading and be of any use if you were taking steroids of any kind. Please do NOT start on ANY steroid treatment before you have seen your GP and it has been established which tests he is willing to order for you. Any kind of steroid intake will invalidate an ACTH test (with the exception of Dexamethasone).

I do not know for sure, but it stands to reason that any adrenal support (NAX) would have to be stopped (don't know for how long) if you want a true reading of your adrenal function and hormone status ... and that goes for any test test that measures adrenal output to my mind.

Best wishes,

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PLEASE HOLD OFF ON THE CORTEF until you at least have some factual

evidence that your adrenals are knackered!!!

even if your gp wont do DHEA he should do aldosterone(also renin and angiotensin

show the whole picture)

AM Cortisol is always helpful but at the very least your sodium and potassium

levels will also be another indicator of how your aldosterone is doing...

have you spoken with dr peatfield?i would highly recomend it if not.also have

you tried the sitting and standing blood pressure test?(this is A very important

factor of adrenal health)

please give it time and thought as you really dont wanna end up worse off than

you are now as the " standard protocol! " on paper loos easy but doesnt always

work out!!!

i know its hard not havin support from people around you that probably think

your making it all up but thats what the board is here for...

let us know if your having any more side effetcs

also when you say your hypoglycemic have you tested your blood sugar levels at

these times?

>

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> finally got an appointment with 'a' gp this morning and I'm going to ask for a

cortisol, aldesterone and DHEA test. Doubt that they'll do it though......I'm in

a right state; falling over, being sick, hypo g and jumping at the slightest

noise. ZERO help from bloke or family.... nice.When you're ill for a long time

people just get bored of you.

> I'm going to start the Cortef treatment as suggested in Dr Hardings info in

the FILES. I'm still not sure if its ok to take NA alongside this.......... does

anyone know for sure please ?

>

> many thanks,

>

> julia

>

[Guest guest]

- Dr Peatfield often recommends people taking NA (I assume this is Nutri

Adrenal) alongside hydrocortisone. Let us know what your GP said this morning

when you asked for the tests. I hope he has recommended you get an urgent

appointment at the hospital to test your cortisol level.

Luv

- Sheila

finally got an appointment with

'a' gp this morning and I'm going to ask for a cortisol, aldesterone and DHEA

test. Doubt that they'll do it though......I'm in a right state; falling over,

being sick, hypo g and jumping at the slightest noise. ZERO help from bloke or

family.... nice.When you're ill for a long time people just get bored of you.

I'm going to start the Cortef

treatment as suggested in Dr Hardings info in the FILES. I'm still not sure if

its ok to take NA alongside this.......... does anyone know for sure please ?

many thanks,

julia

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Hi

They say you're supposed to be off of all adrenal support (HC, NAE etc.) for two

weeks in order to have an accurate cortisol test result. Does your GP know you

are taking cortef?

Lou x

> I've scuppered myself a bit really as I have been taking the cortef today....

though I think I remember reading that the hc only lasts five hours..... so

hopefully it won't effect the test.

>

> Thank you again for your advice and support, it is most appreciated,

>

> julia

>

[Guest guest]

You will HAVE to tell the nurses at the hospital that you are

taking HC as this will definitely affect the test results, but if they know how

much you have taken, they can take account of this.

Luv - Sheila

Well I went to the gp this

morning and my bp is low... he did it sitting and standing.My blood sugar

was ok but then I manage my food as if I were a diabetic really so that's no

surprise. He asked surpringly pertinant questions and is sending me for a

fasting cortisol test in the morning (though he did actually say that the blood

cortisol test doesn't always provide the big picture). He's also contacting my

endo as he thinks I should have the SYN test straight away but has to have the

endo request it as I'm his patient.... also that

aldesterone,DHEA would have to be done by him. Gp said that it sounded very much

like Addinsons and told me to go home and lie down and do nothing (ha-de-ha,

that's really going to happen with the kids).

I've scuppered myself a bit

really as I have been taking the cortef today.... though I think I remember

reading that the hc only lasts five hours..... so hopefully it won't effect the

test.

Thank you again for your advice

and support, it is most appreciated,

julia

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From: judith franklin <angel47572000@...>Subject: Adrenals"Sheila " <thyroidpatientadvacacy >Date: Friday, 11 December, 2009, 10:56hi All , think I have to much cortisol! need to find supplement that do not contain cortisol,maybe some one can help me . it is more of a fluctuation ,

up/down or up/normal..thanks for any help .not feeling that well again. need to get a handle on this. ASAP.regards Angel.

[Guest guest]

How much cortisol are you actually taking Angel and when did you

last increase it. What brand of cortisol are you using.

Luv - Sheila

hi All ,

think I have to much cortisol! need to find supplement that do not contain

cortisol,

maybe some one can help me . it is more of a fluctuation , up/down or

up/normal..

thanks for any help .not feeling that well again. need to get a handle on

this. ASAP.

regards Angel.

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[Guest guest]

what makes you think this?

>

> hi All , think I have to much cortisol! need to find supplement that do not

contain cortisol,

> maybe some one can help me . it is more of a fluctuation , up/down or

up/normal..

> thanks for any help .not feeling that well again. need to get a handle on

this. ASAP.

> regards Angel.

[Guest guest]

I'm one of many low adrenals on this list ...you have my sympathy for feeling so

bad but things will change ...as a start try taking good doses of vitamin C (I

use calcium ascorbate from Higher Nature because it's good value and good

quality). (The adrenals are heavy users of Vit C) Siberian Ginseng is a

wonderful adaptongenic herb that nourish the adrenals ...I use a 5:1 tincture

from Neal's Yard Remedies...start with a low dose (3ml) twice a day and see how

you feel. Some people take Siberian Ginseng and Liquorice together ..just be

aware that long term use of liquorice can cause bloOd pressure to rise.

Sorry not to be able to comment on why the two types of tests were at odds with

each other ...perhaps the high reading in the blood was indicative of how

awful/stressed you were feeling that day and if cortisol was high in the

blood,then what was happening in the cells ..were they being starved? I have to

admit I'm not completey clear how all this works

trish

>

> Hi all,

> I posted a couple of weeks ago, but thought i`d try again :-)

>

> Has anyone had their Adrenal glands tested to see whether their cortisol is

high/low?

> I took a private ASI (Saliva test) in April, and the results came back asVery

low, all through the day. I took them to my GP and he said he wasnt familiar

with the test! He eventually had my morning cortisol bloods taken and that came

out too high??? I`m confused, Has anyone had this, or does anyone know why they

are two extremes? I still feel so i`ll :-(

> Caz

>

[Guest guest]

I was poodling about in my note books and came across this:

" Hypothyroid patients have reduced cortisol clearance so the higher levels of

cortisol mimic a constant state of stress " ....perhaps reduced clearance is the

reason your blood test showed high?

Trish

> Hi Shelia,

> I read the link you posted its very interesting, but i`m still puzzled to how

i can have very low Cortisol in Saliva, but High in Bloods?

> I really do think my adrenals are making me feel so ill, the doc dont seem to

know much, but he and the Hosp have said i`ve got POF (at 38 that sucks ;-() i

dont know if thats relivant?

>

> Do any of you know of any docs who do look into Adrenals more?

>

> Luv Caz

>

[Guest guest]

Snippit>>> > I was poodling about in my note books and came across this:

> > "Hypothyroid patients have reduced cortisol clearance so the higher levels of cortisol mimic a constant state of stress" ....perhaps reduced clearance is the reason your blood test showed high?

> > Trish

Thanks to both Shelia and Trish for your replies.

I only had the One blood test at 8.30am in the morn, not a 24 hour lot.

I HATE blood tests (I Can pass out) so could this be it? But the thing is, if i`m low on Cortisol it would have just pushed the cortisol up a bit, not surely over the highest range?

My GP just gave me the test cos i kept going up there complaining, but i knew it wouldnt pick up much anyway (tho i was expecting it to be in the low end) as they only test for Adds or Cush, nothing in between!

Hes dismissed the saliva test, so now when i go back and see him that result (Saliva) in itself will be dismissed even more!

I`ve got Dr P`s book, does he do things over the phone? I have trouble getting out the house at the mo :-(

I`m confused, worried, and sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Love 2 all

Caz x

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this sounds just like what's happening to me, except i feel dizzy as well. can

you give more detail about the amounts of everything you were/are taking?

tia!

sarah (newbie!)

>

>

> From: <cindychurch@...>

> Subject: Re: Adrenals

> iodine

> Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:22

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> When my adrenals are under pressure I start to wake up at 12.30am and/or

4.30am. I have twinges in my lower back and my muscles start to ache like I have

growing pains.

>

> Prior to supporting my adrenals, I would stress me out very easily and I would

feel a " rush " in my body which would make me feel slightly sick. My lower back

pain would kick in and then my thyroid would tighten.

>

> St s Wort has stopped getting me into stressing out thus giving my

adrenals a chance to heal with the iodine protocol and adrenal cortex.

>

> Celtic Salt has also helped as I feel that the salt soothes my adrenals

(adrenals need salt)

>

> Hope this helps

>

[Guest guest]

I ready very briefly that someone mentioned that dilated pupils can be a symptom

of adrenal fatigue. Does anyone know anything about this and does the iodine

protocol help with this?

> >

> >

> > From: <cindychurch@>

> > Subject: Re: Adrenals

> > iodine

> > Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:22

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > When my adrenals are under pressure I start to wake up at 12.30am and/or

4.30am. I have twinges in my lower back and my muscles start to ache like I have

growing pains.

> >

> > Prior to supporting my adrenals, I would stress me out very easily and I

would feel a " rush " in my body which would make me feel slightly sick. My lower

back pain would kick in and then my thyroid would tighten.

> >

> > St s Wort has stopped getting me into stressing out thus giving my

adrenals a chance to heal with the iodine protocol and adrenal cortex.

> >

> > Celtic Salt has also helped as I feel that the salt soothes my adrenals

(adrenals need salt)

> >

> > Hope this helps

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr in his book Adrenal Fatigue talks about the several tests you can perform (most of them you can do yourself) to identify Adrenal Fatigue. His book really explains everything that you need to know about what stresses the adrenals and what it takes to heal.From: arabella5c <jessicawitmer@...>Subject: Re: Adrenalsiodine Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:08 PM

I ready very briefly that someone mentioned that dilated pupils can be a symptom of adrenal fatigue. Does anyone know anything about this and does the iodine protocol help with this?

> >

> >

> > From: <cindychurch@ >

> > Subject: Re: Adrenals

> > iodinegroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:22

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > When my adrenals are under pressure I start to wake up at 12.30am and/or 4.30am. I have twinges in my lower back and my muscles start to ache like I have growing pains.

> >

> > Prior to supporting my adrenals, I would stress me out very easily and I would feel a "rush" in my body which would make me feel slightly sick. My lower back pain would kick in and then my thyroid would tighten.

> >

> > St s Wort has stopped getting me into stressing out thus giving my adrenals a chance to heal with the iodine protocol and adrenal cortex.

> >

> > Celtic Salt has also helped as I feel that the salt soothes my adrenals (adrenals need salt)

> >

> > Hope this helps

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

amounts of supplements would have to be considered in the light of what you are

already taking and what you are eating.

For example your diet may be causing your problem. You may be deficient in

vitamins, minerals,

You may be eating things which rob your body of nutrients like soft drinks..or

drugs, pharmacuetical drugs.There are many possibilities

Some questions to consider.

Do you have low blood pressure? Low blood sugar? Are you getting enough

iron?

What do eat? when do you eat? what weight are you? what height?

When did the problem start? Have you had any tests yet.? what have

you done about the problem you mention. Are you taking any medication?

check out the links below which refer to specific thyroid issues which have

widespread implications for general health.

www.breastcancercho ices.org

www.naturalthyroidc hoices.com

Hope this helps,

From: <sarahlyao@...>Subject: Re: Adrenalsiodine Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 19:04

this sounds just like what's happening to me, except i feel dizzy as well. can you give more detail about the amounts of everything you were/are taking?tia!sarah (newbie!)> > > From: <cindychurch@ ...>> Subject: Re: Adrenals> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:22> > > Â > > > > When my adrenals are under pressure I start to wake up at 12.30am and/or 4.30am. I have twinges in my lower back and my muscles start to ache like I have growing pains.> > Prior to supporting my adrenals, I would stress me out very easily and I would feel a "rush" in my body which would make me feel slightly sick. My lower back pain would kick in and then my thyroid would tighten.>

> St s Wort has stopped getting me into stressing out thus giving my adrenals a chance to heal with the iodine protocol and adrenal cortex.> > Celtic Salt has also helped as I feel that the salt soothes my adrenals (adrenals need salt)> > Hope this helps>

[Guest guest]

Here is an interview w/ Dr. on adrenal fatigue: Listen to audio on Demanshttp://www.lauralee.com/index.cgi?search=adrenal+fatigue & range=All & x=0 & y=0JagFrom: arabella5c <jessicawitmer@ verizon.net>Subject: Re: Adrenalsiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 2:08 PM

I ready very briefly that someone mentioned that dilated pupils can be a symptom of adrenal fatigue. Does anyone know anything about this and does the iodine protocol help with this?

> >

> >

> > From: <cindychurch@ >

> > Subject: Re: Adrenals

> > iodinegroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:22

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > When my adrenals are under pressure I start to wake up at 12.30am and/or 4.30am. I have twinges in my lower back and my muscles start to ache like I have growing pains.

> >

> > Prior to supporting my adrenals, I would stress me out very easily and I would feel a "rush" in my body which would make me feel slightly sick. My lower back pain would kick in and then my thyroid would tighten.

> >

> > St s Wort has stopped getting me into stressing out thus giving my adrenals a chance to heal with the iodine protocol and adrenal cortex.

> >

> > Celtic Salt has also helped as I feel that the salt soothes my adrenals (adrenals need salt)

> >

> > Hope this helps

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here it is Isobel NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Luv

- Sheila

Hi has anyone got the link to the adrenal forum

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> If you are taking adrenal support I was recommended to double it in the

morning

> before the shock of treatment.

This makes me wonder. I'm always wiped out for a day or so after having dental

anaesthesia, even though there's been no pain and I don't have fear of the the

dentist or anything like that. I've always put it down to the anaesthetic being

in my system, but could it be adrenal fatigue?

I think I will get the Genova test.

BTW, it'd be great if the questionnaire wasn't only in Excel. I can't open

Excel type files.

Jo

[Guest guest]

The usual anaesthetics dentists use interact with the adrenal system - but they

are more effective than the alternatives for many people! I am not aware of any

evidence suggesting that if one reacts then it is because of adrenal fatigue,

tho the obvious implication is that ones adrenal system is a bit oversensitive

and it pushes things over the edge somewhat. I think the normal symptoms are the

standard adrenal ones of fight/flight/fear/panic/anxt - also fainting. (I nearly

crashed my car after going to the dentist once when they got it wrong because I

went " woozy " : I phoned them afterwards to let them know and it materialised that

they had given me the wrong thing. They got it wrong one other time (not sure if

they were testing me out or whether it was a genuine mistake - within 5 mins

they were being very solicitous saying the colour was completely wiped off my

face, making sure I drank water etc etc - and wouldn't let me leave the surgery

for a while afterwwards!) Cytonist solves the problem for me - no more than

usual anxt (which is a normal reaction within limits) and treatment has been

tenable since. But it is no panacea - takes longer to be effective and needs

more frequent top ups to keep it working so needs a patient dentist as it is a

pain for them and takes them longer - it also tends not to hold pain quite so

effectiviely, specially if the dentist isn't careful in its use. But it does

work for me and make treatment tenable instead of a complete nightmare.

Incidentally, I also react badly to pre-meds and am MUCH better without them -

not sure but assume there must be a pharmacological link. I think they are in

the same group as valium or librium - they make me emotionally very reactive,

not pleasant either for me or for those treating me! In earlier years I even ran

out of one dentist's mid-treatment - I didn't trust him anyway, was absolutely

terrified by what he was doing to my tooth and actually was probably better out

of there - but it does demonstrate the added effect of the usual anaesthetics.

I don't think feeling crashed out the next day after dental treatment is that

unusual, specially if you have had extesnive work done with either deep fillings

or root canal work. It is all quite intrusive treatment after all so it would be

a bit surprising if your body didn't react to some degree. I wouldn't

immediately jump to the conclusion that your adrenals must be the missing link!

Vicky

> > If you are taking adrenal support I was recommended to double it in the

morning before the shock of treatment.

> This makes me wonder. I'm always wiped out for a day or so after having dental

> anaesthesia, I've always put it down to the anaesthetic being

> in my system, but could it be adrenal fatigue?

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo,

It's probably to do with the anaesthetic and the effect on your adrenals, I only

know because when I had my mercury fillings out I went to a dentist who

specialises in safe mercury removal and he used an anaesthetic that was

non-adrenaline based, I think he uses this as standard as he follows a

healthy/safe protocol dentistry procedures.

Lv

>

> This makes me wonder. I'm always wiped out for a day or so after having dental

> anaesthesia, even though there's been no pain and I don't have fear of the the

> dentist or anything like that. I've always put it down to the anaesthetic

being

> in my system, but could it be adrenal fatigue?

[Guest guest]

I'd suspect an allergy to the adrenaline in the anaesthetic. Tell your dentist

to use an adrenaline - free anaesthetic next time and see the difference. I

used to be wiped out too till I discovered it was not normal and we tried

adrenaline-free. Now my notes have NO ADRENALINE in big red letters but I

always say so in case they don't read.

Muriel

>

> >

> > This makes me wonder. I'm always wiped out for a day or so after having

dental

> > anaesthesia, even though there's been no pain and I don't have fear of the

the

> > dentist or anything like that. I've always put it down to the anaesthetic

being

> > in my system, but could it be adrenal fatigue?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo, which questionnaire is that?- the Dr Rind one or the one in out files- I though that was Word? > thyroid treatment > From: jobev99@...> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:26:23 +0100> Subject: RE: Adrenals> > > If you are taking adrenal support I was recommended to double it in the morning> > before the shock of treatment.> > This makes me wonder. I'm always wiped out for a day or so after having dental > anaesthesia, even though there's been no pain and I don't have fear of the the > dentist or anything like that. I've always put it down to the anaesthetic being > in my system, but could it be adrenal fatigue?> > I think I will get the Genova test.> > BTW, it'd be great if the questionnaire wasn't only in Excel. I can't open > Excel type files.> > Jo> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

[Guest guest]

> which questionnaire is that?- the Dr Rind one or the one in out files- I

though

> that was Word?

The Word one I saw was an explanation of the Excel one. If the questionnaire's

in Word somewhere, could someone tell me where?

Thanks,

Jo

[Guest guest]

LOL Lily,

 

Love that you love your little adrenals!    Most here, including me,

have/had problems getting 5 hours sleep a night.  I went years without 5 hours

of sleep a night!  (No wonder my adrenals needed some help, eh?)  Not being

able to sleep was one of my symptoms.  HOWEVER, since Dear Giles (thankyou,

Giles!) here shared his secret of putting rose quartz under his pillow, my

sleep has also returned (so I love my little rose quartz stones, Lily!) 

 

Don't forget you need to get natural, un-fooled-around-with rose quartz and you

need to clear and clean it from time to time (more often at first), if any of

you should try this yourself.  I made mine into a beautiful round bead necklace

which I wear, but Giles used just a heart shaped rose quartz stone, as I

recall.  Taking your rose quartz, other stones, to a natural setting (like my

forest with river and waterfall) for a vacation, buried under an evergreen tree

for a day or more will clear it of negative energies.  Rinsing it with water

(and/or a safe soap) will clean it.  I clean mine every week or 2, and clear

mine when I start having problems sleeping again. 

 

Vit D3 and B12 (sublingual) also helped me sleep, tho I do not always now take

them. 

 

Great post on the adrenals, Lily.  Thanks,

Diane

From: Latifah T <zzzapit@...>

Subject: re: Adrenals

Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 12:58 AM

 

Hi all,

A couple of key points about re-vitalizing the adrenals.

One is from Dr. Bob Marshall, brilliant medical sleuth who has a

radio program and sells high quality products. He emphatically

states that in order to re-build adrenals, one absolutely must

get five straight hours of sleep a night, within your bedtime

sleeping span of time. That is, if you are in bed eight hours,

then five of those hours you must be sleeping, or AT LEAST

not getting up, or even lifting your head to look at the clock.

And you need to do that at least 5 out of 7 nights every week.

Also, rather imperative to retire by 10:00 pm too. Ugh, I know,

who wants to do that, but those little adrenals like it.

So, if you need to arise several times a night to urinate, best not

to take liquids after 4:00 pm or so, or whatever works for you.

He has a wonderful adrenal support product, which I don't buy

because it's too expensive for me. But I have been taking

Gaia's adrenal support formula for years now and f-i-n-a-l-l-y

my adrenals are spiffing up. Dont' get dizzy anymore from

standing up from reclining position (one sign of adrenal fatigue),

and have a quicker recovery time from really knocking myself

out (like multiple days off getting up much earlier than usual

for conferences). It has taken, and is taking, much much longer

than I had hoped and really have patience for.

I think a lot of the AF products, like the glandulars and such, can be

helpful, but also can just prop up the adrenals and not really refurbish

them.

Adrenals love nettles. Get the loose stuff and make an infusion, simmering

(not full on boiling) 20 minutes, steep 10, strain. Lots of minerals, and

good

for bones, too.

I wholeheartedly agree with Giles, too, about doing QiGong. It is probably

the easiest, cheapest, most efficacious thing that we can do to tonify our

body's energy system, build stamina, and increase resilience. I'm banking

on it curing me of ES (after I get these pesky amalgams outtta my mouth!).

Dr. (Mehmet) Oz even said so on Oprah a few years ago when she asked

when what he thought the one thing people could do to improve their health.

Loving those little adrenals,

Lily

[Guest guest]

I do qigong every morning and I must say it has made a big difference. The other

things that have helped are adrenal/ thyroid support homeopathics( used

intermittantly) and doing urine therapy. Other supports have been reiki,

meditation and yoga. Now able to  work, and do cardio exercise etc  the EHS

is about the same, but It doesnt tire me  liek before. I would say early

nights, plenty of protein and lots of good food and water is vital.

A

From: Latifah T <zzzapit@...>

Subject: re: Adrenals

Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 9:58 PM

 

Hi all,

A couple of key points about re-vitalizing the adrenals.

One is from Dr. Bob Marshall, brilliant medical sleuth who has a

radio program and sells high quality products. He emphatically

states that in order to re-build adrenals, one absolutely must

get five straight hours of sleep a night, within your bedtime

sleeping span of time. That is, if you are in bed eight hours,

then five of those hours you must be sleeping, or AT LEAST

not getting up, or even lifting your head to look at the clock.

And you need to do that at least 5 out of 7 nights every week.

Also, rather imperative to retire by 10:00 pm too. Ugh, I know,

who wants to do that, but those little adrenals like it.

So, if you need to arise several times a night to urinate, best not

to take liquids after 4:00 pm or so, or whatever works for you.

He has a wonderful adrenal support product, which I don't buy

because it's too expensive for me. But I have been taking

Gaia's adrenal support formula for years now and f-i-n-a-l-l-y

my adrenals are spiffing up. Dont' get dizzy anymore from

standing up from reclining position (one sign of adrenal fatigue),

and have a quicker recovery time from really knocking myself

out (like multiple days off getting up much earlier than usual

for conferences). It has taken, and is taking, much much longer

than I had hoped and really have patience for.

I think a lot of the AF products, like the glandulars and such, can be

helpful, but also can just prop up the adrenals and not really refurbish

them.

Adrenals love nettles. Get the loose stuff and make an infusion, simmering

(not full on boiling) 20 minutes, steep 10, strain. Lots of minerals, and

good

for bones, too.

I wholeheartedly agree with Giles, too, about doing QiGong. It is probably

the easiest, cheapest, most efficacious thing that we can do to tonify our

body's energy system, build stamina, and increase resilience. I'm banking

on it curing me of ES (after I get these pesky amalgams outtta my mouth!).

Dr. (Mehmet) Oz even said so on Oprah a few years ago when she asked

when what he thought the one thing people could do to improve their health.

Loving those little adrenals,

Lily