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SPLENDA IS HORRIBLE. It is made with chlorine and is a huge thyroid hormone inhibitor. Google thyroid Spelenda and you will find that it is not splendid.

Steph

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Is splenda bad? Should I not use Splenda? What are ya'lls thoughts?Thanks,KR......................................................When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.Sent from my .

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I consider all the chemical artificial sweeteners to be poison, & I avoid them like the plague.AnneOn Aug 11, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Kristi wrote: Is splenda bad? Should I not use Splenda? What are ya'lls thoughts? Thanks, KR ...................................................... When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. Sent from my .

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Salt that has not had all the other minerals removed, or been bleached, or who knows what.Celtic is thought by some to be the best. http://www.celticseasalt.com/Judy--- On Wed, 8/11/10, light <lauralight1972@...> wrote:From: light <lauralight1972@...>Subject: Re: Adrenalsiodine Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 12:06 PM

what is unrefined salt?

> >Does anyone know if increased potassium supplimentation like in prune

> >juice will help adrenal fatigue? Or if thier are other very basic foods we

> >can incorporate into a daily diet, fruits, or veggies tohelp with adrenal

> >fatiue. I don't have a budget to buy suppliments right now? And I have

> >temp. problems as well.

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

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I totally recommend stevia, an oriental herb instead of splenda. It goes well in

teas and coffe for me, just only workes with flavors other than chocolate for me

for taste.

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> SPLENDA IS HORRIBLE. It is made with chlorine and is a huge thyroid hormone

inhibitor. Google thyroid Spelenda and you will find that it is not splendid.

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> Is splenda bad? Should I not use Splenda? What are ya'lls thoughts?

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actually stevia is a native plant of north and south america. however , the Japanese have cultivated the herb and have used it for many years as an alternative to saccharin, splenda etc. The best tasting brand I have found is made by Kal. Kathleen

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I get NuStevia Brand from bi-Mart in Oregon. They sell it in packets for

individual serving drinks.

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> > SPLENDA IS HORRIBLE. It is made with chlorine and is a huge thyroid

hormone inhibitor. Google thyroid Spelenda and you will find that it is not

splendid.

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NuStevia is the best one for me too! I have tried them all and this one is my favorite. There is no after taste at all and it sweetens perfectly for me! I get it at my local Health Food Store and Rite Aid drug store.

Nanci

From: light <lauralight1972@...>Subject: Re: Adrenalsiodine Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:45 PM

I get NuStevia Brand from bi-Mart in Oregon. They sell it in packets for individual serving drinks.> >> > SPLENDA IS HORRIBLE. It is

made with chlorine and is a huge thyroid hormone inhibitor. Google thyroid Spelenda and you will find that it is not splendid.> > > > Steph> > > > > > Re: Adrenals> > > > > > > > Is splenda bad? Should I not use Splenda? What are ya'lls thoughts?> > > > Thanks,> > > > KR> > ......................................................> > > > When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.> >

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Hi Han,

I was in this very position 2 years ago, and I have to say neither Gp or Endo

were too interested. My saliva profiles only revealed one through the day to be

in range.

So,for me, Endo then ordered a short synacthen test, which returned within

normal range. I then investigated alternative treatment via Dr P, so basically

the nutritional route. It's been a long piece of work, but I'm consistently on

the mend.

Good luck and good health to you.

x

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> I have recently had my stress profile results and overall the results are

low.Two readings are outside the range, another just half pt within the range,

and the other low.

> When adrenals are struggling is it the GP who orders further tests, or does it

have to be an Endo? and what type of further investigations may be done?

> Han

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Hi Hannah, As far as the NHs is concerned there is addison's disease- almost no cortisol and cushings' disease- too much cortisol and the grey shades of adrenal insufficiency are ignored. so unless you are in that bad a state- and from the salivary tests you aren't the NHS will not be interested. Read up adrenals in the files for more info. > thyroid treatment > From: hannahleahy@...> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:29:04 +0000> Subject: Adrenals> > Hi > I have recently had my stress profile results and overall the results are low.Two readings are outside the range, another just half pt within the range, and the other low.> When adrenals are struggling is it the GP who orders further tests, or does it have to be an Endo? and what type of further investigations may be done?> Han> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Thanks Pam. I took Isocort for about a year and didn't see any difference, except in my pocketbook. And I was really struggling financially at the time due to being on Work Comp. They didn't pay me for 6 months, twice in 3 years. I went through my retirement savings and everything else.

Am on disability now and watch my pennies.

If the Isocort didn't work in a year, do you think it would still work?

I am also looking for a place to get the saliva test. I can't afford it until next month, but that isn't too far away. Any suggestions?

I was nauseous for quite a while on the Iodoral. I am so thrilled that I can even think at this point because when I went backwards on the Iodoral, I had just made so much progress and then lost almost all of it. I guess maybe I went up too fast. I will be working on my adrenals though and that is why I wrote the original e.

Thank goodness for all of you guys!

Thanks again for your input! I really do appreciate it.

Glowing, grace~

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you have always sounded like a low adrenal person to me. I think

you would get much relief on HC, not isocort.

Gracia

On 10/30/2010 1:18 AM, tobdncng@... wrote:

Thanks Pam. I took Isocort for about a year and

didn't see any difference, except in my pocketbook.

And I was really struggling financially at the time

due to being on Work Comp. They didn't pay me for 6

months, twice in 3 years. I went through my

retirement savings and everything else.

Am on disability now and watch my pennies.

If the Isocort didn't work in a year, do you think

it would still work?

I am also looking for a place to get the saliva

test. I can't afford it until next month, but that

isn't too far away. Any suggestions?

I was nauseous for quite a while on the Iodoral. I

am so thrilled that I can even think at this point

because when I went backwards on the Iodoral, I had

just made so much progress and then lost almost all of

it. I guess maybe I went up too fast. I will be

working on my adrenals though and that is why I wrote

the original e.

Thank goodness for all of you guys!

Thanks again for your input! I really do

appreciate it.

Glowing,

grace~

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Hello everyone and hey Diane?

On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue,

did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish

stains?

It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of

rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine.

This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to

this

time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an

absence

of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white.

This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction.

I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much

bigger

then large freckle.

This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on

a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove

of insight will come forward.

Lizzie

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Would hyper-pigmentation also be small areas look like circles that are lighter?

With me they're whitish. Just started last year.

Kathy

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: Adrenals

 

Hello everyone and hey Diane?

On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue,

did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish

stains?

It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of

rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine.

This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to

this

time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an

absence

of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white.

This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction.

I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much

bigger

then large freckle.

This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on

a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove

of insight will come forward.

Lizzie

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Hi People!

Makes perfect sense doesn't it....wireless radiation effects the pineal gland-

hence the vitiigo spots.

I don't think they go away either. I " ve had two very small ones, like large

freckle size, on my back for yeeeaaarrs.

And I have a friend who has rather large areas of her neck with these bleached

out looking discolorations...(they are not circles, more like blobs)

unfortunately, she is a cell phone user. She also works in an area with a huge

amt of high ele fields/high magnetic fields and dirty electricity, and all of

these things have been a factor, for her, for yeeaarrs! She does have low

adrenals..which she treats using natural herbs...but I tend to liken this to,

sticking a finger in a hole to block a rather large leak...

some support, is of course, far better then none..but lowering the body's

exposure to these nasty fields is paramount to enabling the body to heal.

I also have to wonder, at this point, if dirty electricity also effects the

pineal gland. There is so much information coming out on stray voltage, ect.

Hagda Havas has done many articles on dirty electricity causing diabetes & heart

problems...and Samual Milham, who wrote the book called: Dirty Electricity,

states the this causes tons of diseases/conditions.

Put it together, and what you have is, with anything that effects the pineal

gland, this means the body is not able to properly repair itself during sleep...

Bottom line? While cell phones have only been in heavy use since the early 90's,

( although they came out in the late 80's)...but dirty electricity, bad house

wiring, high

electric fields, stray voltage....alll of this has been around for many, many

decades. Who's to say that many who became ES, didn't also spend decades or

years of their lives

living or working in areas with dangerously high levels of dirty electricity?

Food for thought.

Lizzie

P.S.

Below is a good article about how essential oils penetrate the blood brain

barrier.

This information is crucially important for those who have suffered any kind of

nerve damage, etc.

I have used many natural products over the years...essential oils basically

replaced my medicine cabinet around 5 years ago. I use them in countless ways

and nearly every day for one thing,or another. Rosemary is good for the thryoid,

Peppermint Oil is great for: head-aches, a wake me up and make me think, has

proven tremendously helpful with wireless induced nausea and stomach cramps,

(and mosquitos hate Peppermint OIL) Marjoram & Basil combined and diluted with

a carrier oil, is second only to Magnesium Chloride Oil in its ability to bring

immed relief to: sprains, sore necks, sore backs, twisted ankles, Cedarwood is a

very inexpensive essential oil that is high in sesquiterpines (this means it

helps to bring oxygen to the cells)...also good for bug sprays, Melrose (a

combination blend with strong Anti-Fungal properties) has proven very helpful

for such cases as Candida, rashes, etc...

I could go on and on.....The point is, essential oils, used properly are a

wonderful and natural tool to help the body heal.

There are several co's who sell really good essential oils.

Blood-Brain Barrier And Essential Oils

By , Ph. D.Blood-Brain Barrier And Essential Oils

www.ayurveda-florida.com/.../bloodbrain_barrier_and_essential_oil...Cached

From: evie15422@...

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:22:20 -0700

Subject: Re: Adrenals

Hi, Kathy,

You write:

" Would hyper-pigmentation also be small areas look like circles that are

lighter? With me they're whitish. Just started last year. "

Me:

No, those are vitiligo, like I have. Some of mine are as large as a forth inch

in diameter (they have stretched in size as I have grown). Those are likely

from pituitary or pineal gland malfunction, as Lizzie said. But I don't think

they ever go away once you have them. You mention problems with melatonin and

sleeping. It is likely your pineal gland is being affected negatively by

something.

Diane

From: KathyB <calicocat477@...>

Subject: Re: Adrenals

Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 1:44 PM

Would hyper-pigmentation also be small areas look like circles that are lighter?

With me they're whitish. Just started last year.

Kathy

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: Adrenals

Hello everyone and hey Diane?

On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue,

did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish

stains?

It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of

rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine.

This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to

this

time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an

absence

of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white.

This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction.

I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much

bigger

then large freckle.

This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on

a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove

of insight will come forward.

Lizzie

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Hi diane

Sorry to but in on this thread but just wanted to know if your email was back to

normal again [or if your computer was still under attack - I saw a post from you

from a while back apologising and advising people not to contact you off forum

until it was sorted out] - i also saw a post from you asking how i was doing

[dated late May I think] So I'm just posting here to say - I will get in touch

soon if your computer is fixed again - until then if you have seen recent posts

I have left here you can deduce that things aren't great for me - i'm only on

the computervery intermittently - but i hope that you are doing ok and hope to

post to you soon.

The best of the best to you

Love

Steph

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From: Evie <evie15422@...>

Sent: Sun, 21 August, 2011 1:13:08

Subject: Re: Adrenals

 

Hi, Lizzie,

You wrote:

" Hey Diane: Did you see the site mention of Hyperpigmentation and the brownish

stains?

It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of

rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine. "

Me:

Yes, I did, but I know what hyperpigmentation looks like--my Mom has it.  No,

it

is different.  And the rusty hands and feet are washable--I mean, it soaks off

in time.  (Actually, I have to be careful not to get it on bedding and fabrics

when I get it.)  It is what happens when you take too much iodine.  It happens

to normal people who take too much iodine, too; I just don't have to take nearly

as much to get it.  Actual hyperpigmentation is permanent.

I also have the vitiligo--small white spots, as you say.  I've had them on my

arms and legs since I was a child (they have not increased in number since

then).  While we are talking about Diane's spots, I also get age spots on my

left arm--from free radical damage, but those come and go away quickly if I take

anti-oxidants regularly.  lol  ;)]

Thanks for the info, Lizzie,

Diane

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: Adrenals

esens

Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 1:21 PM

 

Hello everyone and hey Diane?

On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue,

did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish

stains?

It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of

rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine.

This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to

this

time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an

absence

of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white.

This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction.

I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much

bigger

then large freckle.

This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on

a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove

of insight will come forward.

Lizzie

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Elaine

Can you post the results of your 24 hour salivary adrenal

profile and show what the reference ranges are at the four specific times

during the day it is recommended you do this test. Also, what was the result of

your DHEA. Have you asked your GP to check for ferritin, vitamin B12,

vitaminD3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. If not, please ask him/her to

test these because no matter how much thyroid hormone you are either secreting or

replacing, it cannot get into the cells if any of these are low, until whatever

is low has been supplemented.

You should take Nutri Adrenal Extra for 7 days before starting

any thyroid hormone replacement. This ensures that your adrenals start to get

boosted. These are full of minerals and vitamins your adrenals need. You can

then start Armour on day 8, but start only with half a grain (30mgs) and stay

on that for 7 days with the NAE. Add another 30mcgs of Armour, but take this in

split doses, so half an hour before breakfast and the other 30mcgs about

2.00/3.00p.m. in the afternoon. Stay on that dose for 3 to 4 weeks before

trying an increase of another 30mgs daily. It is usual to continue increasing

this way until your body has found the dose it needs, in which case, this will

show by you getting symptoms of hyPERThyroidism a couple or so hours after

taking your morning dose. What you do then is to not take any more Armour that

day, and the next day, go back onto the dose you were on before your last

increase.

It is no good titrating your dose according to blood test

results when taking natural thyroid extract.

Meanwhile, you should be increasing your NAE every 2 to 3 weeks

until you start to feel your symptoms subsiding. If your temperature is still

low and you still have low adrenal fatigue, you can take up to 6 NAE daily, but

if this is not sufficient, you may need to ask your GP for a short synacthen

test to see whether you might be suffering with borderline 's disease.

Mostly, people manage find with a couple of NAE daily.

Read the information in our FILES section of this forum web site

thyroid treatment

under the FOLDER 'All Natural Thyroid Extract' and open this Folder. Scroll

down to the one entitled 'How to Treat with NDT' and read ALL the information

there. Any questions, just shout.

If ever you do decide to do another 24 hour salivary adrenal

profile, please stop NAE or other adrenal supplements for at least 2 weeks

before doing the test, otherwise, the results will be flawed.

Luv - Sheila

Hi I am new to forum so hope you can help me.

I've been taking armour thyroid or trying:) and seems my adrenals are in early

stages of decline according to Dr Lam the Adrenal dr on the net.How long do I

have to try to fix adrenals before I can start taking Armour? I get hyper when

I try to up my dosage of armour. I took half a grain on saturday and took some

adrenoplex and boy did I feel yuk!Fast heart and clammy. Did not last long. My

naturopath said because my a.m. cortisol levels are high that I have blood

sugar problem from my raw food diet with too much fruit so I have been trying

to balance it with eating more protein, fat and complex carbs but after

saturday am thinking I have adrenal problems. Have stopped armour and trying

these adrenal support herbs. Do I do another saliva test to check adrenals which

I have done and dr did blood check and wanted to do some check for tumours but

I have no symptoms. I am 56. not overwieght but do have thryroid problems and

want to go onto armour again BUT need advice please.

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