Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 In reply to Rod and his snipe about SRP,s not being able to stop telling everyone about the using the term " paramedic " or " paramedic practitioner " well I say hooray and its about time. After so many years that any Tom< Dick or Harry were able to call themselves a paramedic after having done some half baked advanced first aid course and then calling themselves a " paramedic " . As far as I am concerned if you have done an accredited paramedic program and done your time on the street like the rest of us, then it is right that, you should have your professional title protected. The Australian Collage of Ambulance Professionals (ACAP) has been lobbying Health depts here in Australia to do the same and I am sure it will happen? Cheers Darren RE: practitoners Hi Ian Almost right mate, it is an offence in the UK, not in other countries. ( & why is it that SRP in the UK can't stop themselves from telling everyone this?) Cheers Rod >-- Original Message -- > >From: IAN WOODLAND <ijwoodland@...> >oh by the way it is illegal to callyourself a >'paramedic' or a 'paramedic practitioner', unless you >really are accredited for them >Cheers >ian woodland, __________________________________________________ Broadband from an unbeatable £15.99! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/home.html?code=SM-NL-11AM Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... ALL list admin messages (subscriptions & unsubscriptions) should be sent to the list owner. Post message: egroups Please visit our website http://www.remotemedics.co.uk Regards The Remote Medics Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 I couldn't agree more with mark, like many other Paramedics I welcomed registration and the designation protection that came with it. Too many times have I turned up at an incident after being informed by control, " there's a Paramedic on scene " to arrive and find an over bearing and grossly under skilled first aider administering inadequate, and sometimes baffling 'treatment'. this is then usually compounded by the said person standing on the side line explaining what we should be doing next and how he would be doing things differently!!, usually they then pick up there ruck sack, the contents of which you could perform a moderate surgical procedure with, carry it to there 10 year old ford escort response car, equipped with enough blue strobes and beacons to suffice an ibiza night club. It's very simple, if you want to say you're a Paramedic, join an NHS Trust, serve your time, learn the medical skills and people management as a Technician (that means doing routine jobs, picking up the old folk off the floor, blocked catheters, GP's admissions etc. etc.), then apply for, sit the exam for, and complete the course for paramedic ... THEN you can have the pride of saying your a Paramedic. Regards Dave SR Para Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 We have the same problem in the US; we call them squirrels, because they scurry around the scene like a squirrel looking for nuts. Cheers, Bill Re: practitioners I couldn't agree more with mark, like many other Paramedics I welcomed registration and the designation protection that came with it. Too many times have I turned up at an incident after being informed by control, " there's a Paramedic on scene " to arrive and find an over bearing and grossly under skilled first aider administering inadequate, and sometimes baffling 'treatment'. this is then usually compounded by the said person standing on the side line explaining what we should be doing next and how he would be doing things differently!!, usually they then pick up there ruck sack, the contents of which you could perform a moderate surgical procedure with, carry it to there 10 year old ford escort response car, equipped with enough blue strobes and beacons to suffice an ibiza night club. It's very simple, if you want to say you're a Paramedic, join an NHS Trust, serve your time, learn the medical skills and people management as a Technician (that means doing routine jobs, picking up the old folk off the floor, blocked catheters, GP's admissions etc. etc.), then apply for, sit the exam for, and complete the course for paramedic ... THEN you can have the pride of saying your a Paramedic. Regards Dave SR Para Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 Amen, they ARE ALL OVER THE WORLD. Bill Cowan <bill.cowan@...> wrote:We have the same problem in the US; we call them squirrels, because they scurry around the scene like a squirrel looking for nuts. Cheers, Bill Re: practitioners I couldn't agree more with mark, like many other Paramedics I welcomed registration and the designation protection that came with it. Too many times have I turned up at an incident after being informed by control, " there's a Paramedic on scene " to arrive and find an over bearing and grossly under skilled first aider administering inadequate, and sometimes baffling 'treatment'. this is then usually compounded by the said person standing on the side line explaining what we should be doing next and how he would be doing things differently!!, usually they then pick up there ruck sack, the contents of which you could perform a moderate surgical procedure with, carry it to there 10 year old ford escort response car, equipped with enough blue strobes and beacons to suffice an ibiza night club. It's very simple, if you want to say you're a Paramedic, join an NHS Trust, serve your time, learn the medical skills and people management as a Technician (that means doing routine jobs, picking up the old folk off the floor, blocked catheters, GP's admissions etc. etc.), then apply for, sit the exam for, and complete the course for paramedic ... THEN you can have the pride of saying your a Paramedic. Regards Dave SR Para Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 --- Darren <dazzle1@...> wrote: > In reply to Rod and his snipe about SRP,s not being able to stop > telling > everyone about the using the term " paramedic " or " paramedic > practitioner " well I say hooray and its about time. After so many > years that any Tom< Dick or Harry were able to call themselves a > paramedic after having done some half baked advanced first aid > course and then calling themselves a " paramedic " . > > As far as I am concerned if you have done an accredited paramedic > program and done your time on the street like the rest of us, then > it is right that, you should have your professional title protected. > > The Australian Collage of Ambulance Professionals (ACAP) has been > lobbying Health depts here in Australia to do the same and I am > sure it > will happen? > > Cheers > Darren The initiative in Canada is to standardise the EMT levels Between Ontario (Similar to Australia) Newfoundland (similar to the USA circa 1980) and Quebec (Ah well ! ! ?) One of the initiating factor Are federal pressure to allow for the mobility of all personel across the country, presently British Columbia is still a closed system (Unions) One of the moves is to call all EMTs : Paramedics And have three levels of paramedics The argument is to : Clarify and increase the credibility of our roles in the eyes of the public ! ? I an not sure I fully understand or support this reasoning All I can say is ; I wish them luck Brault EMT-P http://www.paramedic.ca/main.html http://www.paramedic.ca/nocp.html National Occupational Competency Profiles for Paramedic Practitioners Published by the Paramedic Association of Canada. These competency profiles were developed over a period of three years in a national project involving hundreds of paramedic practitioners and other stakeholders. The financial support of Human Resources Development Canada and many paramedic training programs is gratefully acknowledged. Project Director: Beth Gibbons, MA Project Consultant: Cane, PhD; Catalysis Consulting, Kamloops BC This document contains a set of four integrated competency profiles that define the work of paramedic practitioners nationally. A competency profile is included for each of the following practitioner levels: Emergency Medical Responder Primary Care Paramedic Advanced Care Paramedic Critical Care Paramedic The Paramedic Association of Canada (PAC) introduced these practitioner levels in March 2000, together with an initial competency profile for each. This was done to promote national consistency in paramedic training and practice, and to enhance job mobility for practitioners. The initial competency profiles were reviewed and refined to produce the new profiles contained in this document. The new profiles do not expand the practitioner roles that were introduced in March 2000. They provide a more precise definition of the occupational competencies, and better indicate how competency can be determined. The Board of Directors of PAC approved the new profiles on June 29 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2004 Report Share Posted July 25, 2004 In a message dated 7/25/2004 6:39:14 AM Central Daylight Time, PARA999@... writes: Too many times have I turned up at an incident after being informed by control, " there's a Paramedic on scene " to arrive and find an over bearing and grossly under skilled first aider administering inadequate, and sometimes baffling 'treatment'. this is then usually compounded by the said person standing on the side line explaining what we should be doing next and how he would be doing things differently!!, usually they then pick up there ruck sack, the contents of which you could perform a moderate surgical procedure with, carry it to there 10 year old ford escort response car, equipped with enough blue strobes and beacons to suffice an ibiza night club. You guys have these too? I thought that was just a distinctly american problem. I happened by a bad wreck once where a couple from Ohio (4 states away) were in a hurry to improperly extricate 2 critical patients based on a " stated " need to get it done before the locals arrived and screwed it all up. I had to have them arrested to make them stop. Both claimed to be paramedics. Neither had any evidence of certification or competence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 JD, Would Durand, WI be close enough to Minneapolis? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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