Re: FW: new website -food/disease lists

[Guest guest]

Perhaps there should be a qualification added that some disease prevention

interventions may be mooted by CR, additionally some could even be too much

of a good thing. For example it is possible to have too low of an

inflammation level, too thin blood, etc.

An aspirin a day may be helpful for typically inflamed, overweight adlib

eaters, but might not be helpful if you already have you diet on a very

healthy path.

Sorry, I don't mean to dismiss the value of such interventions, only that

they are probably targeted at the population in general. We should try to

avoid the assumption that more (less) is always better, and various

interventions will be additive. That said healthy behavior is still healthy,

and since we will all die of something we should know our personal risk

factors and appropriate mitigating behaviors.

Keep up the good fight....

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:05 AM

support group

Subject: [ ] FW: new website -food/disease lists

Thanks to all for contributions to the new website. A link to it is now on

the site under " Description of Group " and in the links section. The

new suggestions (for example JR's: " A healthier life and more of it " ) are

not yet incorporated, but will be soon.

NEW PROJECT FOR WEBSITE: We're planning to also have lists of foods that

fight specific diseases. Rodney already has a couple of these lists (for

prostate like as many more as we can come up with and he has volunteered to

coordinate these lists for the new website.. For example there was a recent

posting that the combo of broccoli and tomatoes was many times more

potent than either alone in fighting cancer. Other examples might be :

broccoli sprouts for many cancers,

lycopene (tomatoes and red colored foods) for prostate cancer,

fatty fish, fish oil, aspirin for heart disease.

The more specific the disease (for example a specific type of cancer) the

more useful it will be for our listing. So please help if you remember or

have such past post in your files or know of foods you might want to add.

It should be fun for us all to put our collective heads together for this.

Valid scientific references and backup that validate the food's disease

fighting abilities will be appreciated.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

BTW considering Logan's recent posts about reservatrol, we should probably

add it to the list somewhere (with foods such as red wine, peanuts etc that

contain it) or have a general list of foods/nutrients of wide ranging

benefit to fight disease/aging.

[Guest guest]

It occurs to me we need an additional separation of the "standard" list of vits, mins from other non pharmacological things like carnitine, carnosine, etc. There's also that stuff in a multivitamin pill that has no rda's. What class of stuff shall we call carnosine, other than just a supplement?

rda vits,

rda mins,

prescription drugs,

herbs (duke's db)

"Chinese" herbs (those in the Chinese herb directories)

manufactured supps with human evidence

manufactured supps with no human evidence

Just a thought.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: john roberts

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:24 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] FW: new website -food/disease lists

Perhaps there should be a qualification added that some disease preventioninterventions may be mooted by CR, additionally some could even be too muchof a good thing. For example it is possible to have too low of aninflammation level, too thin blood, etc.An aspirin a day may be helpful for typically inflamed, overweight adlibeaters, but might not be helpful if you already have you diet on a veryhealthy path.Sorry, I don't mean to dismiss the value of such interventions, only thatthey are probably targeted at the population in general. We should try toavoid the assumption that more (less) is always better, and variousinterventions will be additive. That said healthy behavior is still healthy,and since we will all die of something we should know our personal riskfactors and appropriate mitigating behaviors.Keep up the good fight....JR