Prostate Cancer - Got milk?

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Milk products versus prostate cancer. Any thoughts?

http://www.health.harvard.edu/hhp/article/content.do?name=WN0104h

" Preventing prostate cancer and diet "

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A diet high in dairy products has also been implicated as a risk

factor for prostate cancer, and this relationship may have little to

do with fat. In nine separate studies, the strongest and most

consistent dietary factor linked with prostate cancer was high

consumption of milk or dairy products. In the largest of these, the

Health Professionals Follow-Up Study, men who drank two or more

glasses of milk a day were almost twice as likely to develop advanced

or metastatic (spreading) prostate cancer as those who didn't

drink milk at all.

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It appears that for men at least, we have to choose between healthy

bones or having a healthy prostate gland. Tough choice.

Aequalsz

[Guest guest]

If you insist on consuming milk despite(or perhaps, because of) the

inconclusive results of this and other studies on diet and prostate cancer,

maybe you should eat it as cream of tomato soup. And while you're at it,

garnish it with a ground-up brazil nut, and brew a nice cup of (green) tea,

both suggested to have anti-prostate cancer effects.

But, if you're paranoid, be sure not to garnish your soup with walnuts or

ground flax seed. And stop eating seaweed and including purslane in your

salads. After all, several studies suggest that ALA can cause increased

prostate cancer.

All of these studies are provisional. At least some, quite likely, are

poorly designed. I, for one, don't plan to make any drastic changes in my

diet until we have more authoritative studies.

Since I already eat plenty of cooked tomatoes as soup, soup bases, tomato

sauce, tomato juice, etc. And I use as much olive as I can because it tastes

great. Consistent, of course with basic CRON principles.

The conclusion of the Harvard Special Report concludes:

" All in all, the evidence that any food or nutrient plays a role in

preventing cancer of the prostate remains sketchy. To reach any firm

conclusions, further study is clearly needed. "

Mike

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From: aequalsz [mailto:aequalsz@...]

Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:48 AM

Subject: [ ] Prostate Cancer - Got milk?

Hi:

Milk products versus prostate cancer. Any thoughts?

http://www.health.harvard.edu/hhp/article/content.do?name=WN0104h

" Preventing prostate cancer and diet "

Excerpt

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A diet high in dairy products has also been implicated as a risk

factor for prostate cancer, and this relationship may have little to

do with fat. In nine separate studies, the strongest and most

consistent dietary factor linked with prostate cancer was high

consumption of milk or dairy products. In the largest of these, the

Health Professionals Follow-Up Study, men who drank two or more

glasses of milk a day were almost twice as likely to develop advanced

or metastatic (spreading) prostate cancer as those who didn't

drink milk at all.

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It appears that for men at least, we have to choose between healthy

bones or having a healthy prostate gland. Tough choice.

Aequalsz

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Mike Sheldrick " <mike@s...>

wrote:

> If you insist on consuming milk despite(or perhaps, because of) the

> inconclusive results of this and other studies on diet and

prostate cancer,

> maybe you should eat it as cream of tomato soup. And while you're

at it,

> garnish it with a ground-up brazil nut, and brew a nice cup of

(green) tea,

> both suggested to have anti-prostate cancer effects.

>

> But, if you're paranoid, be sure not to garnish your soup with

walnuts or

> ground flax seed. And stop eating seaweed and including purslane

in your

> salads. After all, several studies suggest that ALA can cause

increased

> prostate cancer.

Me paranoid? Well, one great-grandfather and both grandfathers died

of Prostate cancer. My dad also had an episode with Prostate cancer

@ 78 yo, although he's still going strong at age 89. (With about a

million dollars of medical expenses over the years.) So I've

probably inherited a " double whammy " of " bad " prostate genes.

Actually won't go close to a walnut or flax seeds, or soy products

these days, eat quite a lot of home-made ketchup with a little olive

oil, avoid too much red meat, and plan on switching to " grass fed "

or " organic " milk if/when I can find a reasonable local supply.

(Don't plan on paying $3.60 for a half gallon like I did this

morning at the local store.) Also eat a liberal amount of sardines,

salmon, etc. and fruits and vegetables, etc. Prefer to stay away

from highly processed foods especially certain types of oils and

margarine, etc.

Still figure I'll get Pca some day, but maybe can hold it off for an

extra five or ten years. By that time, it may not matter too much

anyway and Pca can usually be effectively treated.

Aequalsz

[Guest guest]

I think this has been posted before, but it may be helpful reinforcement:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=disease & dbid=17#recommendeddiet

>From: " aequalsz " <aequalsz@...> Reply-To:

> Subject:

>[ ] Re: Prostate Cancer - Got milk? Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004

>18:05:22 -0000

>

>

> > If you insist on consuming milk despite(or perhaps, because of) the >

>inconclusive results of this and other studies on diet and prostate cancer,

> > maybe you should eat it as cream of tomato soup. And while you're at it,

> > garnish it with a ground-up brazil nut, and brew a nice cup of (green)

>tea, > both suggested to have anti-prostate cancer effects. > > But, if

>you're paranoid, be sure not to garnish your soup with walnuts or > ground

>flax seed. And stop eating seaweed and including purslane in your > salads.

>After all, several studies suggest that ALA can cause increased > prostate

>cancer.

>

>Me paranoid? Well, one great-grandfather and both grandfathers died of

>Prostate cancer. My dad also had an episode with Prostate cancer @ 78 yo,

>although he's still going strong at age 89. (With about a million dollars

>of medical expenses over the years.) So I've probably inherited a " double

>whammy " of " bad " prostate genes.

>

>Actually won't go close to a walnut or flax seeds, or soy products these

>days, eat quite a lot of home-made ketchup with a little olive oil, avoid

>too much red meat, and plan on switching to " grass fed " or " organic " milk

>if/when I can find a reasonable local supply. (Don't plan on paying $3.60

>for a half gallon like I did this morning at the local store.) Also eat a

>liberal amount of sardines, salmon, etc. and fruits and vegetables, etc.

>Prefer to stay away from highly processed foods especially certain types of

>oils and margarine, etc.

>

>Still figure I'll get Pca some day, but maybe can hold it off for an extra

>five or ten years. By that time, it may not matter too much anyway and Pca

>can usually be effectively treated.

>

>Aequalsz

>

[Guest guest]

AQ: I would love to see that recipe for home made ketchup........

on 8/21/2004 2:05 PM, aequalsz at aequalsz@... wrote:

> probably inherited a " double whammy " of " bad " prostate genes.

>

> Actually won't go close to a walnut or flax seeds, or soy products

> these days, eat quite a lot of home-made ketchup with a little olive

[Guest guest]

> AQ: I would love to see that recipe for home made ketchup........

>

I think it's essentially as follows, however minus the corn syrup and

substituting tomatoe paste for the whole tomatoes. Also not necessary

to, " Pass the mixture through a food mill into a bowl and return to

the pot. " (Not totally sure because the wife always makes it.) The

big advantage for us is that the home-made version doesn't contain

much, if any, sugar.

Aequalsz

3 tablespoons olive oil

3 cups coarsely chopped onion

3 garlic cloves, minced

3 pounds ripe plum tomatoes, coarsely chopped

1/3 cup distilled white vinegar

1/2 cup dark corn syrup

1/4 teaspoon ground cloves

1/4 teaspoon ground allspice

1 teaspoon mustard seeds

1/2 teaspoon ground celery seeds

1 tablespoon salt

2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper

In a large heavy pot heat the olive oil over moderate heat and cook

the onion until golden brown, stirring occasionally, about 8 to 10

minutes. Add the garlic and cook for another minute. Add the tomatoes,

vinegar, corn syrup, cloves, allspice, mustard seeds, celery seeds,

salt and pepper stirring to combine. Bring the mixture to a boil,

reduce heat ad simmer, stirring occasionally, for 1 hour. Pass the

mixture through a food mill into a bowl and return to the pot. Bring

the mixture back to a simmer and cook until very thick, stirring

occasionally, about 45 minutes. Allow the ketchup to cool. The ketchup

can be sealed in sterilized jars and kept indefinitely.