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This has been a long day. I have been trying to get mom to change her diet for a few years, but that seems a lost cause at this point. She has siezed most of the day since 3 or was it 4, I don't remember now. She had a break of 2 1/2 hours this morning and then started again. Mom couldn't take it any more si she took her to the vet and he gave her phenal barbatol (sp?). Which has only made the seizures less although the vet said it would make her fall asleep. I really can't believe her heart has been able to stand this. The vet said if it haasn't stopped in a week or two mom should think about putting her to sleep. ARG!! I can't believe they would let her stay like thisso long. When I questioned my mom she got real deffensive fast.

I'm going to give her some Tonic and water and hope that helps.

Becky

Oh they think it might be a brain tumor.__________________________________________________

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Have you thought about essiac??? I still think the lobelia is the way to go. Possibly giving her some chamomile tea might help her rest.

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This has been a long day. I have been trying to get mom to change her diet for a few years, but that seems a lost cause at this point. She has siezed most of the day since 3 or was it 4, I don't remember now. She had a break of 2 1/2 hours this morning and then started again. Mom couldn't take it any more si she took her to the vet and he gave her phenal barbatol (sp?). Which has only made the seizures less although the vet said it would make her fall asleep. I really can't believe her heart has been able to stand this. The vet said if it haasn't stopped in a week or two mom should think about putting her to sleep. ARG!! I can't believe they would let her stay like thisso long. When I questioned my mom she got real deffensive fast.

I'm going to give her some Tonic and water and hope that helps.

Becky

Oh they think it might be a brain tumor.

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Pee Tee wrote:

>This is stretching it -

>but can you take the dog for a month and get him converted to raw ? shoot

>if I lived near you I would take him in/on (your momma permitting).

>Actually that is a dream of mine to start an animal spa, where I convert

>the animal to raw, supplement w/ herbs and stuff and than return the pet to

>there owner.

>Wish I could help !

>My mom adopted my 17yr ol Ninja Dude/cat who ate tender vittles most of his

>life (shame on me). I slowly got my mom to give him raw, although he

>resisted for weeks so my mom wouldn't push it on him and thought she was

>helping him by feeding canned tuna/salmon. Well one day whe witnessed him

>bouncing off everything/siezuring and she flipped out when she saw that and

>so I convinced her (true or not) that it was his crappy diet polluting his

>kidneys, liver etc.................

>It was a rough transition to raw but now he can't get enough!! Now he goes

>over to the dogs raw portion and eats it first. LOL --- I kid you not this

>cat did a complete 180 degree turn, and a 17yr old to boot. So I know it

>can be done, and nobody has witnessed any seizures from him. He is doing

>wonderfully.

>Pam

>-----------------------

>

>

Hi Pam,

That is a wonderful dream you have. However, dreams only come true if

you take the first step. Otherwise, they just remain a dream. I truly

believe that you could do this and make it work. It is truly a wonderful

idea you have and I would love to hear about your success story from

doing it. You have my energy flowing towards you to help you in this

endeavor. I know you can do it. I believe in you and your dream Pam.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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pam wrote:

> I just read your reply Don and it gave me a chill so I completely

> beleive your energy reached me at this moment. I have the ability

> to focus on things such as this but unfortunately how to succeed at

> my dreams escapes the 'know how' to make them materialize. So until

> I am linked with someone or something that has monitary rewards or

> insight into my passions that enable such a dream to materialize I'm

> gonna have to stick w/ grooming dogs in my mom's garage ! But

> beleive me I don't count anything out EVER ! My problem is I dream

> enormously but that is as far as they go. I won't stop dreaming tho

> Don, I for one know things happen at a drop of a hat and as long as

> I keep meeting new people and staying positive good things will come

> into my life, may not be today but it will be one day. If someone

> would grant me a chunk of money to buy some land I would take in

> sickly strays and unwanteds and fix them or at the least make them

> feel better and wanted. But til than it's just me and my POO !

> Pam

> -------------------------------------------------

Hi Pam,

An old man once told me that anything you need or desire is only two

people away from you. This is a very profound statement that I have

found to be quite true. You need to start talking about your dream to

people. Guaranteed that someone, somewhere at some point will have just

what you are looking for or they will know who does. You have to take

that first step of realizing your dreams before they will ever

materialize. Yes, your dreams will materialize eventually. But you must

keep them in the forefront. Success is sweet in deed but usually is hard

won by your sweat, blood and tears, so to speak.

I am glad that you are remaining positive about this. I guess it would

be kind of difficult to do this in your mothers garage on a full time

basis. But hey, you never know. Keep your dreams alive and continue to

work towards their realization. Like you said it can happen at the drop

of a hat. The physical reality of your dream is only two people away.

Peace be with you Pam.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Many years ago, i had a kitty that started having seizures, he was

about 16 or 17 at the time. The vet said i was lucky to have him so

long, and gave him the pheno-barb too and predisone! I didnt like

that he was medicated all the time and therefore sleeping, so slowly

i cut back and then stopped it. Not knowing what i know now, but have

some natural intuition, i went from store bought garbage to the

better stuff (nutro at that time) and supplemented him with home-made

broth and avocado (vet suggested), he added a little weight and seemd

to do much better. He had an occaisonal seizure here and there, and

slowly started to deteriorate but he lived to be 21.

Your idea is awesome Pam, and i say GO-GO-GO!!!!! There are so many

people that have no idea about the natural way for themselves,

muchless for their pets! Check around your area for any holistic or

natural vets, i bet you could get a load of clients as referals from

them.

Sylvia

>

> This is stretching it -

> but can you take the dog for a month and get him converted to

raw ? shoot

> if I lived near you I would take him in/on (your momma

permitting).

> Actually that is a dream of mine to start an animal spa, where I

convert

> the animal to raw, supplement w/ herbs and stuff and than return

the pet to

> there owner.

> Wish I could help !

> My mom adopted my 17yr ol Ninja Dude/cat who ate tender vittles

most of his

> life (shame on me). I slowly got my mom to give him raw, although

he

> resisted for weeks so my mom wouldn't push it on him and thought

she was

> helping him by feeding canned tuna/salmon. Well one day whe

witnessed him

> bouncing off everything/siezuring and she flipped out when she saw

that and

> so I convinced her (true or not) that it was his crappy diet

polluting his

> kidneys, liver etc.................

> It was a rough transition to raw but now he can't get enough!! Now

he goes

> over to the dogs raw portion and eats it first. LOL --- I kid you

not this

> cat did a complete 180 degree turn, and a 17yr old to boot. So I

know it

> can be done, and nobody has witnessed any seizures from him. He

is doing

> wonderfully.

> Pam

> -----------------------

> This has been a long day. I have been trying to get mom to change

her diet

> for

> a few years, but that seems a lost cause at this point. She has

siezed most

> of

> the day since 3 or was it 4, I don't remember now. She had a break

of 2 1/2

> hours this morning and then started again. Mom couldn't take it

any more si

> she

> took her to the vet and he gave her phenal barbatol (sp?). Which

has only

> made

> the seizures less although the vet said it would make her fall

asleep. I

> really

> can't believe her heart has been able to stand this. The vet said

if it

> haasn't

> stopped in a week or two mom should think about putting her to

sleep. ARG!!

> I

> can't believe they would let her stay like thisso long. When I

questioned

> my

> mom she got real deffensive fast.

> I'm going to give her some Tonic and water and hope that helps.

> Becky

>

> Oh they think it might be a brain tumor.

>

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A natural raw diet goes a long way towards diminishing epileptic seizures....the additives in commercial dog foods are triggers, not to mention typical over-vaccination. I would seek out a homeopath and treat this dog holistically.

There is also at least one canine epilepsy list at groups....don't know the address offhand since I've never needed it (::knock wood::), but you might find it useful.

Sharyn

From: oldglory@... [mailto:oldglory@...] Don't you imagine your dog is seizing because of swelling in her brain? This is what the prednisone would counter. Is there anything herbal that would do the same thing? Perhaps Vit. C?

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