Lyme

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Dear Les Lee,

If you feel like giving up, go ahead and feel that feeling. Don't resist it. THEN, move on to the next feeling. I believe that what we resist, persists. So no problem feeling that, as long as you don't give up because this is a long term deal - but that part that wants to give up, let those sad feelings come when you can at the right times, but manage when you allow that. Maybe you do need to cry. That is okay. Feel sad, feel blue, feel angry, feel whatever. That is okay, but if it starts to overwhelm you all the time then you do have to do something about it, like see someone professionally. We are all grieving the loss of a life we once had and we have to learn to live with this for the time being. It is not forever. Others are over it and many here manage it.

It is life altering, but life in the good ole US of A is changing for most people. We have to learn to reframe what is important. Love for your family and friends is important and others. Be as kind to youself as you can possibly be, but including talking kindly to yourself. This I am learning as well. Yes, I feel like giving up, but then I don't. I move on to the next feeling.

Re: Lyme

I guess I thought by paying more for the "best" test - I would either get a positive or a negative. I'm scared of this Lyme monster...wondering...do most people recover from it? Or is it more often chronic? Does this mean that I have Morgellon's or can you just get Lyme from the mites? Ever feel like giving up?? =)> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I just got the results of my Igenex Lyme test and it is Negative - but the ILADS Dr. I saw is saying that I have two bands that are positive even though the test had a negative result...and he feels I need to be treated.> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone understand this? I thought that paying more for an Igenex test that the results wouldbe more accurate...now I'm just really confused. I don't understand.> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having a really hard time with this today. I took my children shopping yesterday and my 3 year old found a doll that shewas in love with - you should have saw her face... Normally I would have went back and bought her the doll for Christmas, but right now I can't because it was cloth... I cried and cried. I just hope and pray she will know what a "normal" life is someday. It breaks my heart.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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I don't know if this will help you. I'm reviewing my IGenex testing. My IGenex conclusion was positive for Lyme, but I only had a double ++ for 31, 41 and 45. The rest of them reflected negative. According to the CDC/NYS my result would have been negative. I tested on several occasions with my health provider and results were always negative. I really believe it is important to be treated for Lyme Disease if you have symptoms that a Lyme doctor indicates are positive for Lyme Disease. You can get sicker, much sicker. These are the trickiest bacteria - hiding and changing form into cyst form. They can penetrate the blood brain barrier. Better to get treated. Testing for this is an art. The science is still a little sketchy. My husband's testing came out full positive on every point, and yet he has always been healthier. Go figure. We were tested in Feb. 09.

Maybe this will help you. Don't know.

Re: Lyme

Buying my children gifts is not really the big issue for me. It is more about me worrying that they will not have a "normal" life again. She is so young. I hope this thing will not define her childhood...because right now it feels like it might. I hate this whole thing - but mostly for the children.We have really good days and then it gets bad again. We haven't found any bugs for a long time - but even then we never really saw anything (only ever found three samples). The crawling will get less and less and wwithin a week it will be back. My eight year old had "hives" again last night. My back was a huge issue last week,but seems to be getting better. I have a little patch of rash on both of my legs now...haven't had any rash for a month or better before this.The doctor said the Igenex test was negative, but that bands 18 and 31 were positive and that he felt I needed treatment. How can the test be negative and I still need treatment?> > > >> > > > > > > > I just got the results of my Igenex Lyme test and it is Negative - but the ILADS Dr. I saw is saying that I have two bands that are positive even though the test had a negative result...and he feels I need to be treated.> > > > > > > > Does anyone understand this? I thought that paying more for an Igenex test that the results wouldbe more accurate...now I'm just really confused. I don't understand.> > > > > > > > I'm having a really hard time with this today. I took my children shopping yesterday and my 3 year old found a doll that shewas in love with - you should have saw her face... Normally I would have went back and bought her the doll for Christmas, but right now I can't because it was cloth... I cried and cried. I just hope and pray she will know what a "normal" life is someday. It breaks my heart.> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

I am also very interested in this, as it seems like Lyme disease is really

incurable and so frustrating!

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> Does anyone take iodine for lyme?

> Any suggestions in addition?

> Thanks

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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm curious to see if there are any replies to your query. I've recently been diagnosed with lyme, babesia and bartonella. I can't see why iodine wouldn't be good given it's anti bacterial and anti viral action but I haven't heard of taking it specifically for these tick borne infections.

I'm utilizing homeopathics and herbs right now. I haven't done the antibiodics and will try to avoid that route but may end up there. The coming and going of the debilitating symptoms is making me a crazy person and affecting my finances BIG TIME between having to cancel work (I'm self employed) and the $ spent on docs and other practitioners along with the herbs, supplements and homeopathics. I spent $1500 in 6 weeks so am hoping for some major healing.

Janet

iodine From: mastiffred@...Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:11:41 +0000Subject: Lyme

Does anyone take iodine for lyme?Any suggestions in addition?ThanksSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

I have friends using olive leaf extract and rife beam light to fight Lyme and some use Vit C and salt protocols. PamOn Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

 

Hi ,

I'm curious to see if there are any replies to your query.  I've recently been diagnosed with lyme, babesia and bartonella.  I can't see why iodine wouldn't be good given it's anti bacterial and anti viral action but I haven't heard of taking it specifically for these tick borne infections.

 

I'm utilizing homeopathics and herbs right now.  I haven't done the antibiodics and will try to avoid that route but may end up there.  The coming and going of the debilitating symptoms is making me a crazy person and affecting my finances BIG TIME between having to cancel work (I'm self employed) and the $ spent on docs and other practitioners along with the herbs, supplements and homeopathics.  I spent $1500 in 6 weeks so am hoping for some major healing.

Janet 

iodine From: mastiffred@...Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:11:41 +0000Subject: Lyme

 

Does anyone take iodine for lyme?Any suggestions in addition?ThanksSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

I have lyme and am on 50mg iodine among other stuff.

Pami

Louisville, KY

[Guest guest]

I was just reading an article from Vitamin Research Products about Lyme. They

have a product that is suppose to help. Here is the link:

http://www.vrp.com/immune-system/samento-new-support-for-an-ancient-enemy-lyme-d\

isease

Laurie

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> Hi ,

> I'm curious to see if there are any replies to your query. I've recently been

diagnosed with lyme, babesia and bartonella. I can't see why iodine wouldn't be

good given it's anti bacterial and anti viral action but I haven't heard of

taking it specifically for these tick borne infections.

>

> I'm utilizing homeopathics and herbs right now. I haven't done the

antibiodics and will try to avoid that route but may end up there. The coming

and going of the debilitating symptoms is making me a crazy person and affecting

my finances BIG TIME between having to cancel work (I'm self employed) and the $

spent on docs and other practitioners along with the herbs, supplements and

homeopathics. I spent $1500 in 6 weeks so am hoping for some major healing.

> Janet

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> iodine

> From: mastiffred@...

> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:11:41 +0000

> Subject: Lyme

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> Does anyone take iodine for lyme?

> Any suggestions in addition?

> Thanks

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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam. I have investigated the rife beam of late. I've heard for some it's helpful and for others it's not.

Janet

iodine From: 2007pams@...Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:16:38 -0700Subject: Re: Lyme

I have friends using olive leaf extract and rife beam light to fight Lyme and some use Vit C and salt protocols. Pam

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

Hi ,I'm curious to see if there are any replies to your query. I've recently been diagnosed with lyme, babesia and bartonella. I can't see why iodine wouldn't be good given it's anti bacterial and anti viral action but I haven't heard of taking it specifically for these tick borne infections. I'm utilizing homeopathics and herbs right now. I haven't done the antibiodics and will try to avoid that route but may end up there. The coming and going of the debilitating symptoms is making me a crazy person and affecting my finances BIG TIME between having to cancel work (I'm self employed) and the $ spent on docs and other practitioners along with the herbs, supplements and homeopathics. I spent $1500 in 6 weeks so am hoping for some major healing.Janet

iodine From: mastiffred@...Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:11:41 +0000Subject: Lyme

Does anyone take iodine for lyme?Any suggestions in addition?ThanksSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

Pami,

Are you taking the iodine specifically for the lyme or for other reasons?

Janet

iodine From: pami@...Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 07:45:38 -0400Subject: Re: Lyme

I have lyme and am on 50mg iodine among other stuff.PamiLouisville, KY

[Guest guest]

I know very little about Lyme personally, but I’ve recently met an elderly woman who has it, and whose entire family has it. The husband is a doctor, and they’ve done everything imaginable, and have travelled extensively meeting with researchers, etc. For them, the bottom line is to do the longterm antibiotics asap, which halts the damage being done by the spirochetes. Among those who understand the illness, this is effective and not controversial. Among those who are not aware, it is controversial. It is also recommended to do longterm antibiotics in pregnancy so the spirochetes are inactive and not passed on. I had no idea Lymes could be passed on until this woman explained it to me, using her two adult daughters as examples. One believed the antibiotic protocol and her son is fine. The other did not do it and her son has autism. This is what the researchers had told her could happen. This elderly mom does have a life, although she has to be very aware of not putting too much into her week. She wishes she would have known about the antibiotic routine years ago when she got Lymes. Every few years it seems she needs to do a longterm set of antibiotics (is it 6 months?). I understand this goes against everything we strive for here, but spirochetes have their own ideas, apparently. I can’t point you to sites or even names of doctors, just sending you anectotal info. Unfortunately, her husband was the single doctor in our Dallas area who fully understood this and treated it appropriately, since he became friends with the researching docs and followed their protocols, but he just retired this year and has nobody to follow him.

[Guest guest]

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Lyme

I have lyme and am on 50mg iodine among other stuff.

Pami

Louisville, KY

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[Guest guest]

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Lyme

I have lyme and am on 50mg iodine among other stuff.

Pami

Louisville, KY

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All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list)

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20FIRST/

[Guest guest]

I avoid all drugs -- when I can. There are situations, though, when

nothing else seems to work, and lyme disease seems to be one of

those. For more info on why long-term antibiotics seem necessary

and helpful, and why it's almost impossible to find a doctor who is

can (is allowed to!) to treat in this way, "Under Our Skin" is a

very moving and revealing documentary. Available streaming from

Netflix

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Under_Our_Skin/70118373?trkid=2361637#height2277

I know very little about Lyme

personally, but I’ve recently met an elderly woman who

has it, and whose entire family has it. The husband

is a doctor, and they’ve done everything imaginable,

and have travelled extensively meeting with

researchers, etc. For them, the bottom line is to do

the longterm antibiotics asap, which halts the damage

being done by the spirochetes. Among those who

understand the illness, this is effective and not

controversial. Among those who are not aware, it is

controversial. It is also recommended to do longterm

antibiotics in pregnancy so the spirochetes are

inactive and not passed on. I had no idea Lymes could

be passed on until this woman explained it to me,

using her two adult daughters as examples. One

believed the antibiotic protocol and her son is fine.

The other did not do it and her son has autism. This

is what the researchers had told her could happen.

This elderly mom does have a life, although she has

to be very aware of not putting too much into her

week. She wishes she would have known about the

antibiotic routine years ago when she got Lymes.

Every few years it seems she needs to do a longterm

set of antibiotics (is it 6 months?). I understand

this goes against everything we strive for here, but

spirochetes have their own ideas, apparently. I can’t

point you to sites or even names of doctors, just

sending you anectotal info. Unfortunately, her

husband was the single doctor in our Dallas area who

fully understood this and treated it appropriately,

since he became friends with the researching docs and

followed their protocols, but he just retired this

year and has nobody to follow him.

[Guest guest]

Sorry about the blank emails! I was asking about Lyme because a friend was having all kinds of weird symptoms. She is 45 and was diagnosed as having a bunch of autoimune diseases. I had commented about a year ago that her symptoms sound like Lyme. They have her on all kinds of steroids and pain killers. From what I understand steroids are bad for Lyme. Recently she had TIA (mini stroke) after they put her on antibiotics and I told her husband (i work

with him) I think it started killing off the spirochetes and making her herx. I told him again about the Lyme and he remembered that she got bit by a tick on her neck about 3 years ago. So I think I may have convinced them to drive to PA (we live in Ohio) to see a qualified DR. I read that people have had success with the salt loading but didn't read anyone using iodine. Thanks for the info everyone! Pami- Does the iodine seem to help? Thanks From: Shreve <christineshreve@...>Subject: Re: Lymeiodine Date:

Sunday, June 5, 2011, 10:11 AM

Re: Lyme

I know very little about Lyme personally, but I’ve recently met an elderly woman who has it, and whose entire family has it. The husband is a doctor, and they’ve done everything imaginable, and have travelled extensively meeting with researchers, etc. For them, the bottom line is to do the longterm antibiotics asap, which halts the damage being done by the spirochetes. Among those who understand the illness, this is effective and not controversial. Among those who are not aware, it is controversial. It is also recommended to do longterm antibiotics in pregnancy so the spirochetes are inactive and not passed on. I had no idea Lymes could be passed on until this woman explained it to me, using her two adult daughters as examples. One believed the antibiotic protocol and her son is fine. The other did not do it and her son has autism.

This is what the researchers had told her could happen. This elderly mom does have a life, although she has to be very aware of not putting too much into her week. She wishes she would have known about the antibiotic routine years ago when she got Lymes. Every few years it seems she needs to do a longterm set of antibiotics (is it 6 months?). I understand this goes against everything we strive for here, but spirochetes have their own ideas, apparently. I can’t point you to sites or even names of doctors, just sending you anectotal info. Unfortunately, her husband was the single doctor in our Dallas area who fully understood this and treated it appropriately, since he became friends with the researching docs and followed their protocols, but he just retired this year and has nobody to follow him.

[Guest guest]

Sorry about the blank emails! I was asking about Lyme because a friend was having all kinds of weird symptoms. She is 45 and was diagnosed as having a bunch of autoimune diseases. I had commented about a year ago that her symptoms sound like Lyme. They have her on all kinds of steroids and pain killers. From what I understand steroids are bad for Lyme. Recently she had TIA (mini stroke) after they put her on antibiotics and I told her husband (i work

with him) I think it started killing off the spirochetes and making her herx. I told him again about the Lyme and he remembered that she got bit by a tick on her neck about 3 years ago. So I think I may have convinced them to drive to PA (we live in Ohio) to see a qualified DR. I read that people have had success with the salt loading but didn't read anyone using iodine. Thanks for the info everyone! Pami- Does the iodine seem to help? Thanks From: Shreve <christineshreve@...>Subject: Re: Lymeiodine Date:

Sunday, June 5, 2011, 10:11 AM

Re: Lyme

I know very little about Lyme personally, but I’ve recently met an elderly woman who has it, and whose entire family has it. The husband is a doctor, and they’ve done everything imaginable, and have travelled extensively meeting with researchers, etc. For them, the bottom line is to do the longterm antibiotics asap, which halts the damage being done by the spirochetes. Among those who understand the illness, this is effective and not controversial. Among those who are not aware, it is controversial. It is also recommended to do longterm antibiotics in pregnancy so the spirochetes are inactive and not passed on. I had no idea Lymes could be passed on until this woman explained it to me, using her two adult daughters as examples. One believed the antibiotic protocol and her son is fine. The other did not do it and her son has autism.

This is what the researchers had told her could happen. This elderly mom does have a life, although she has to be very aware of not putting too much into her week. She wishes she would have known about the antibiotic routine years ago when she got Lymes. Every few years it seems she needs to do a longterm set of antibiotics (is it 6 months?). I understand this goes against everything we strive for here, but spirochetes have their own ideas, apparently. I can’t point you to sites or even names of doctors, just sending you anectotal info. Unfortunately, her husband was the single doctor in our Dallas area who fully understood this and treated it appropriately, since he became friends with the researching docs and followed their protocols, but he just retired this year and has nobody to follow him.

[Guest guest]

It appears that even Dr. Brownstein, the most referred to iodine doctor, uses

antibiotics in addition to the iodine protocol at least for some of the

pathogens that can occur with or without Lyme and it leads me to believe that he

would do so with Lyme as well.

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, who is one of the most successful Lyme doctors, has a

protocol that does not involve antibiotics. In one of his papers he does speak

about the importance of iodine, but it does not appear to be part of his Lyme

protocol. His Lyme protocol is available at:

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/. There is a short version of this protocol

on the Mercola website and probably other places as well.

I am thinking that if a person is using the iodine protocol to address pathogens

that they would be best served to be using the higher doses of iodine ~ in the

75 -100 mg range at least, along with all of the companion supplements of

course.

check out www.iodine4health.com and type Lyme into the search box for some

historical data that was collected.

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> I know very little about Lyme personally, but I¹ve recently met an elderly

> woman who has it, and whose entire family has it. The husband is a doctor,

> and they¹ve done everything imaginable, and have travelled extensively

> meeting with researchers, etc. For them, the bottom line is to do the

> longterm antibiotics asap, which halts the damage being done by the

> spirochetes. Among those who understand the illness, this is effective and

> not controversial. Among those who are not aware, it is controversial. It

> is also recommended to do longterm antibiotics in pregnancy so the

> spirochetes are inactive and not passed on. I had no idea Lymes could be

> passed on until this woman explained it to me, using her two adult daughters

> as examples. One believed the antibiotic protocol and her son is fine. The

> other did not do it and her son has autism. This is what the researchers

> had told her could happen. This elderly mom does have a life, although she

> has to be very aware of not putting too much into her week. She wishes she

> would have known about the antibiotic routine years ago when she got Lymes.

> Every few years it seems she needs to do a longterm set of antibiotics (is

> it 6 months?). I understand this goes against everything we strive for

> here, but spirochetes have their own ideas, apparently. I can¹t point you

> to sites or even names of doctors, just sending you anectotal info.

> Unfortunately, her husband was the single doctor in our Dallas area who

> fully understood this and treated it appropriately, since he became friends

> with the researching docs and followed their protocols, but he just retired

> this year and has nobody to follow him.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I highly recommend a film documentary about Lyme called "Under our Skin"! Many Lyme-literate doctors are interviewed. I was able to watch it from Charter "On Demand". Several PBS tv stations around the country will be broadcasting it this summer. Sue Re: LymePosted by: "bigcrazyhopkinfamily" bigcrazyhopkinfamily@... bigcrazyhopkinfamilySat Jun 4, 2011 8:30 pm (PDT)I am also very interested in this, as it seems like Lyme disease is really incurable and so frustrating!

[Guest guest]

I hope that iodine will become a healing piece for me. Currently I am being treated by a very lyme literate acupuncturist in land who has worked and collaborated with several of the country's top lyme specialists. One of the most important aspects of these tick infections is their ability to "hide" themselves using an armour when antibiodics are introduced. Once the antibiodics are stopped the infection resurfaces, the coast is clear. This is why people feel better and then get sick once again.

The toxins released when these infestions start dying off can create very uncomfortable reactions that my acupuncturist treats with ion cleanse foot baths, herbs, cupping and even light therapy. My homeopathic doctor (a western trained doc who uses homeopathics exclusively) told me to expect to feel worse before feeling better. I did for a short while.

By utilizing herbs, homeopathics and other supplements (and maybe iodine?) the ability of these infections to morph and hide is reduced. In Chinese medicine this type of disease is referred to as the "hidden" disease. The symptoms of these tick infections (I've been told there are somewhere around 60+) are so broad and vary from person to person making it very difficult to diagnose. So many are misdiagnosed with MS, Parkinsons's, fibro, RA and other autoimmune diseases.

Oh,,,one more thing to think about. Years ago I heard a doctor here in Balimore speculate that lyme, being a spirochete, could possibly be transmitted sexually. Syphillis is a spirochete. Recently I've heard this again from several other sources. I don't believe it has been confirmed that this is possible....yet.

Interesting about the doctor in Texas who speaks about passing lyme from mothers to newborns. I have wondered about this possibility and whether it is a factor in the astronomical increase of autism and other childhood diseases. My area of land is overrun with deer ticks. Whole families have been devastated by these infections often going undiagnosed for years while thousands of dollars in medical bills and lost income pile up along with the physical suffering.

Janet

iodine From: martinfam5@...Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 11:17:15 -0500Subject: Re: Lyme

I highly recommend a film documentary about Lyme called "Under our Skin"! Many Lyme-literate doctors are interviewed. I was able to watch it from Charter "On Demand". Several PBS tv stations around the country will be broadcasting it this summer.

Sue

[Guest guest]

There are many different versions of Rife and some are more effective than others. For FM, it makes me feel like I had a head to toe body massage in 30 minutes and was 5 years earlier than MD on recognizing that I had FM. So depends on which one you get and how close a match it is for you. Pam

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Pam.  I have investigated the rife beam of late.  I've heard for some it's helpful and for  others it's not.

Janet 

iodine From: 2007pams@...Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:16:38 -0700

Subject: Re: Lyme

 

I have friends using olive leaf extract and rife beam light to fight Lyme and some use Vit C and salt protocols. Pam

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

 

Hi ,I'm curious to see if there are any replies to your query.  I've recently been diagnosed with lyme, babesia and bartonella.  I can't see why iodine wouldn't be good given it's anti bacterial and anti viral action but I haven't heard of taking it specifically for these tick borne infections.

 I'm utilizing homeopathics and herbs right now.  I haven't done the antibiodics and will try to avoid that route but may end up there.  The coming and going of the debilitating symptoms is making me a crazy person and affecting my finances BIG TIME between having to cancel work (I'm self employed) and the $ spent on docs and other practitioners along with the herbs, supplements and homeopathics.  I spent $1500 in 6 weeks so am hoping for some major healing.

Janet 

iodine From: mastiffred@...Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:11:41 +0000Subject: Lyme

 

Does anyone take iodine for lyme?Any suggestions in addition?ThanksSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

this is pretty much true. I have been on LT antibiotics

[Guest guest]

Did five years of doxycycline,azithromyacin and Flagyl for other infections such

as Chlamydia Pneumoniae and Mycoplasma Pneumoniae. Then in December last year

Igenex test came back positive for Lyme and Bartonella.

So Lyme tanked the immune system and let these other infections go wild.

I was taking as much as 100 mgs of Iodoral a day with the approval of my

doctor--didn't seem to flush out the infections. But when I started Iodoral, I

worked up to 50 mgs and had some very heavy detox. Took lots of sea salt in

water and it really helped.

Now I have a new naturopath and she is treating the Bartonella with Byron

White's A-Bart. It seems to be working. Also boosting my immune system with

Epicor and Transfer Factor.

The downside of that is my allergies went crazy this spring because we had so

much rain. Mold became a big problem as I work in a water damaged school.Now I

have that to deal with. Just not fair.

All I can say is that the Iodoral is a big part of my treatment plan. But I

don't think it can kill Lyme on its own,

Just my 2¢

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> this is pretty much true. I have been on LT antibiotics

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[Guest guest]

WOW,,,,that's a lot of antibiodics. I feel for you. I've not heard of A-Bart, Epicor or Transfer Factor. Are these herbs?

Janet

iodine From: tbrudnak@...Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 19:44:37 +0000Subject: Re: Lyme

Did five years of doxycycline,azithromyacin and Flagyl for other infections such as Chlamydia Pneumoniae and Mycoplasma Pneumoniae. Then in December last year Igenex test came back positive for Lyme and Bartonella.So Lyme tanked the immune system and let these other infections go wild.I was taking as much as 100 mgs of Iodoral a day with the approval of my doctor--didn't seem to flush out the infections. But when I started Iodoral, I worked up to 50 mgs and had some very heavy detox. Took lots of sea salt in water and it really helped. Now I have a new naturopath and she is treating the Bartonella with Byron White's A-Bart. It seems to be working. Also boosting my immune system with Epicor and Transfer Factor.The downside of that is my allergies went crazy this spring because we had so much rain. Mold became a big problem as I work in a water damaged school.Now I have that to deal with. Just not fair.All I can say is that the Iodoral is a big part of my treatment plan. But I don't think it can kill Lyme on its own,Just my 2¢>> this is pretty much true. I have been on LT antibiotics>

[Guest guest]

....... Years ago I heard a doctor here in Balimore speculate that lyme, being a spirochete, could possibly be transmitted sexually. Syphillis is a spirochete. Recently I've heard this again from several other sources. I don't believe it has been confirmed that this is possible....yet........

This older woman whose story I told has 3 adult daughters, all of whom have Lyme from her passing it on to them in utero, probably. She contends that it is passed sexually, and that her 2 oldest girls’ husbands now have it, too. (I did not ask if her husband has Lymes) Very sad. And yes, if you spoke with her, she would heartily agree with the Lyme/autism link since her youngest daughter has autism, and 2 of her grandchildren – both with moms with Lymes. This info is not unique to her, she has said her doctors explained this to her. So, somewhere, there is a body of knowledge about this.

I had a great thyroid doc for a short while who had Lymes. She told me she got it from her mom and gave me some kind of a website if I wanted to know more. She had to stop her practice as her symptoms increased, unfortunately.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this! Would be great to hear how this works out for you.

Also, is there a website or forum that discusses this approach?

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> > this is pretty much true. I have been on LT antibiotics

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[Guest guest]

I had 2 friends who passed it back and forth sexually and were married to each other. Their Lyme expert Dr. confirmed that sex was a problem for that. This was true 3 years back. She would heal up but he never got healed up. She would get it again. There was tons of joking on you know how that happens, don't yuh?

PamOn Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Shreve <christineshreve@...> wrote:

 

....... Years ago I heard a doctor here in Balimore speculate that lyme, being a spirochete, could possibly be transmitted sexually. Syphillis is a spirochete. Recently I've heard this again from several other sources. I don't believe it has been confirmed that this is possible....yet........

This older woman whose story I told has 3 adult daughters, all of whom have Lyme from her passing it on to them in utero, probably.  She contends that it is passed sexually, and that her 2 oldest girls’ husbands now have it, too.   (I did not ask if her husband has Lymes) Very sad.   And yes, if you spoke with her, she would heartily agree with the Lyme/autism link since her youngest daughter has autism, and 2 of her grandchildren – both with moms with Lymes.  This info is not unique to her, she has said her doctors explained this to her.  So, somewhere, there is a body of knowledge about this.

I had a great thyroid doc for a short while who had Lymes.  She  told me she got it from her mom and gave me some kind of a website if I wanted to know more.  She had to stop her practice as her symptoms increased, unfortunately.