Re: Rife and detox

July 2, 2011

Both of you have presented wonderful information. Was just re-familiarizing

myself with the chlorella/ cilantro formula.

And yes, on the chemtrails? Believe IT!

Lizzie

>

> From: amcafeerr@...

> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:59:48 -0400

> Subject: Rife and detox

>

> I agree with . And, it is a little of the chicken and egg theory as

well. Manfred Mueller, one of the US's top homeopaths teaches that underlying

the mycoplasma diseases (MS, etc.) lies the mercury contamination issue. Many of

the fungus/bacteria live off of the mercury and other heavy metals which also

destroy the body's own ability to detoxify. So as long as the heavy metals are

present, the glutathione production/liver detox function is down.

>

> My experience has shown when an aggressive detox regime is attempted, these

myco/fungus/bacteria bugs migrate with the metals and infections spread

throughout the body, where ever the metals get spread (since most detox

chelators are imperfect), brain, intestines, colon, etc.

>

> Mueller uses Cilantro in Mother Tincture form with Chlorella to sop up the

extra metals for a 2-5 or more year period (slow detox).

> I think you must also kill off the bugs as you chelate.

>

> Allicin Garlic, colloidal silver, Rife Frequencies, etc. in conjunction with

the cilantro/chlorella 5 times a week for a couple years is a minimum procedure.

>

> This is complex and no one should embark upon an aggressive detox regime

without reading a lot on it or you will pay dearly, like I have.

>

> On Jul 2, 2011, at 11:22 AM, charles wrote:

>

> > There is no reason ahving a fatalistic attitude with MS.

> >

> > Many people have resolved these problems with Rife frequency therapy.

> >

> > I quote here from the *The Rife Handbook* by nenah Sylver:

> > *****************************

> > With all autoimmune disorders, the body’s

> >

> > immune cells attack the person’s own tissues. Autoimmune

> >

> > disorders are often due to the presence of tiny Mycoplasma—

> >

> > so-called “stealth pathogens”—whose lack of a cell wall allow

> >

> > them to invade our cells and assume some of the properties

> >

> > of our own tissue. O ur immune cells sense something hiding

> >

> > in our cells, and attack them.

> >

> > If the Mycoplasma invade the central nervous system, the

> >

> > disease is Multiple Sclerosis (although MS can also have a

> >

> > non-autoimmune origin). I f the Mycoplasma invade our joints,

> >

> > the disease is rheumatoid arthritis. If the body attacks foreign

> >

> > proteins that it mistakes for its own tissues, resulting in a

> >

> > severe inflammatory response that could be anywhere, the

> >

> > disease is Lupus erythematosus.

> >

> > *****************************

> > I have no proof, but I believe that the chemtrails contain Mycoplasma's,

which is a breeding ground for a lot of diseases.

> >

> > The only disadvantage of a Rife frequency therapy is, that it consumes a lot

of time.

> >

> > Greetings,

> > Claessens

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> > www.milieuziektes.be

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> >

> > Re: testing question

> >

> > Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05 PM

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > One therapist told me:

> >

> > Some Italian internist Dr. found out by accident (by looking into the scans

of his wife and later comparing these with MS-patients) and many MS-patients

seem to have a problem with the blood flow between head and rest of body, so the

veins in the neck (V. Jugularis) should be at least opened for 0.8 centimeter,

> >

> > They can check that with a Doppler/sound test...

> >

> > The test is supposed to be harmless, although that may not be completely

true, it's probably like 100 times safer than MRI,

> >

> > I'm not saying that this test is proof for MS, one Doctor I spoke on this he

confirmed it may be useful to have a test done like this if you have

MS-symptoms, but he said so far they're still investigating link MS and problems

at the V. Jugularis...

> >

> > gr,

> > .

> >

> >>

> >> I was thinking of going to a Neuro. I will stand strong & not get an MRI. I

would fry from it.

> >>

> >> Are there alternative tests for MS?

> >>

> >> Kathy

> >>

July 2, 2011

Last week I got the very old age of 73.

Most people think that I am 60 or even in the fifties.

But we use noe many, many years frequency therapy.

The only medication we use is colloidal silver.

For using Rife and frequencies, there arenice small machines, which are

not expensive.

Of course, there is the *poor man's Rife*, but I do not use that.

In my opinion, the sounds produces by computer with their sound cards may

distort the frequencies.

One may use a small programm, called NCH Tone generator.

With it, one can generate the needed frequencies, square waves for Rife and

300000 ms duration.

The generated waves can be saved as WAV files on your hard disk, and burned to

an audio CD.

That way, there is practically no loss. Do not use MP3, which may distort the

frequencies.

See: http://educate-yourself.org/nch/

For the needed Rife frequencies

Google for the CAFL or The Consolidated Annotated Frequency List (CAFL)

And there are other sources.

During some years I gave my customers an Audio CD for healing their

electrosensitivity, which had good results.

Nowadays I do that with other means.

It is not a *gizmo* which does something against the longitudinal waves, but is

mainly developed for reparing the damaged immune system.

A few years ago, my wife was not capable for shopping in a shopping center.

This morning we were there, and whyen we paid our bills, I asked my wife how she

considered the DECT phone at the cashier. She sais that she saw it, but did not

feel anything.

(Years ago she jumped at the ceiling by a DECT.)

The storm of protests over mobile phone masts has lowered.

Now the boom is smart meters.

But beware, LTE is coming.

And for that the providers are dispersing wireless modems which give two

signals.

One for the user of the computer, and one for the passersby on the street.

Apparently, the first intention was to use pico or femto cells at the wall of

the houses, but now it seems that the modems readiate so strong, that these

cells are not necessary.

(And the holder of the modem pays for the electricity,

One may shield the home on all sides, but electrosensitives can not go onto the

street then.

The time of the Third Reich was more human in comparison.

PS. A *Zapper* is a nice instrument, but not a good frequency generator, because

it generates only ONE frequency, which is by far not sufficiant.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: testing question

> >

> > Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05 PM

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > One therapist told me:

> >

> > Some Italian internist Dr. found out by accident (by looking into the

scans of his wife and later comparing these with MS-patients) and many

MS-patients seem to have a problem with the blood flow between head and rest of

body, so the veins in the neck (V. Jugularis) should be at least opened for 0.8

centimeter,

> >

> > They can check that with a Doppler/sound test...

> >

> > The test is supposed to be harmless, although that may not be completely

true, it's probably like 100 times safer than MRI,

> >

> > I'm not saying that this test is proof for MS, one Doctor I spoke on this

he confirmed it may be useful to have a test done like this if you have

MS-symptoms, but he said so far they're still investigating link MS and problems

at the V. Jugularis...

> >

> > gr,

> > .

> >

> >>

> >> I was thinking of going to a Neuro. I will stand strong & not get an MRI.

I would fry from it.

> >>

> >> Are there alternative tests for MS?

> >>

> >> Kathy

> >>

July 2, 2011

Hi, and ,

I basically agree with both of you, however, I would like to point out one

thing, lest others here think mycoplasms are the only problem to consider in MS

or ES. One doesn't *require* mycoplasm infection to get either MS or ES. Tight

junctions (ion channelopathy) are the gatekeepers of the cells. With damaged

tight junctions you do not need a membrane-less pathogen to accomplish any of

the immune dysfunctions which follow. Your damaged tight junctions allow the

pathogens access whether they are membrane-less (lack a cell wall) or not. TJ

damage also allows mercury and toxins free reign of ones body. But, you are

both, nevertheless, correct. If one uses the correct treatment methods for the

correct problem area, one can accomplish healing of any of these issues. The

real problem lies in finding the correct treatment methods and correct issue(s)

to treat, which can entail a lifetime of searching (during which one better have

a strong positive

attitude, or they will be toast).

Thanks for the info, . Sounds like a good protocol for mycoplasms. Is

this a protocol you, yourself, are using? Let us know your progress, please.

Thanks.

Diane

> >

> >Â From: <@...>

> >Â Subject: Re: testing question

> >Â

> >Â Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05 PM

> >

> >Â Hi,

> >

> >Â One therapist told me:

> >

> >Â Some Italian internist Dr. found out by accident

> (by looking into the scans of his wife and later comparing

> these with MS-patients) and many MS-patients seem to have a

> problem with the blood flow between head and rest of body,

> so the veins in the neck (V. Jugularis) should be at least

> opened for 0.8 centimeter,

> >

> >Â They can check that with a Doppler/sound

> test...

> >

> >Â The test is supposed to be harmless, although

> that may not be completely true, it's probably like 100

> times safer than MRI,

> >

> >Â I'm not saying that this test is proof for MS,

> one Doctor I spoke on this he confirmed it may be useful to

> have a test done like this if you have MS-symptoms, but he

> said so far they're still investigating link MS and problems

> at the V. Jugularis...

> >

> >Â gr,

> >Â .

> >

> >Â

> >>

> >> I was thinking of going to a Neuro. I will stand

> strong & not get an MRI. I would fry from it.

> >>

> >> Are there alternative tests for MS?

> >>

> >> Kathy

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >>

> >

> >Â [Non-text portions of this message have been

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> >

> >Â ------------------------------------

> >

> >Â

July 2, 2011

Hi, ,

Thanks for all the info on Rife. I did not see much with it from my past trial,

but now you mention small machines which you can get to do it. What are the

names of these machines, if you know them easily? I think I was getting

distortion of frequencies when I tried this. [Mainly, since tho, I have chosen

to strengthen my immune system via pH, supplementation, liver healing.... So

this then has enabled my immune system to attack and kill invaders on its own.

(Not that I still do not have invaders; they come in constantly due to many of

my tjs being dysfunctional.)]

Can you play the CD you mention on a regular CD player or do you have to use a

computer? I own a Walkman and a regular CD player. Would these distort the

frequencies on the CD?

I agree that it makes much more sense to treat the body than it does to look for

shielding (tho I still do both). Otherwise, we will sooner or later have to be

locked away in underground caves to survive. (And actually that wouldn't meet

our needs either.)

Thanks again, ,

Diane

> Â > >

> Â > > From: <@...>

> Â > > Subject: Re: testing question

> Â > >

> Â > > Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05 PM

> Â > >

> Â > > Hi,

> Â > >

> Â > > One therapist told me:

> Â > >

> Â > > Some Italian internist Dr. found out by

> accident (by looking into the scans of his wife and later

> comparing these with MS-patients) and many MS-patients seem

> to have a problem with the blood flow between head and rest

> of body, so the veins in the neck (V. Jugularis) should be

> at least opened for 0.8 centimeter,

> Â > >

> Â > > They can check that with a Doppler/sound

> test...

> Â > >

> Â > > The test is supposed to be harmless,

> although that may not be completely true, it's probably like

> 100 times safer than MRI,

> Â > >

> Â > > I'm not saying that this test is proof for

> MS, one Doctor I spoke on this he confirmed it may be useful

> to have a test done like this if you have MS-symptoms, but

> he said so far they're still investigating link MS and

> problems at the V. Jugularis...

> Â > >

> Â > > gr,

> Â > > .

> Â > >

> Â > >>

> Â > >> I was thinking of going to a Neuro. I

> will stand strong & not get an MRI. I would fry from it.

>

> Â > >>

> Â > >> Are there alternative tests for MS?

> Â > >>

> Â > >> Kathy

> Â > >>

> Â > >> [Non-text portions of this message

> have been removed]

> Â > >>

> Â > >

> Â > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been removed]

> Â > >

> Â > > ------------------------------------

> Â > >

July 2, 2011

All audio CD's can be played on any regular CD player, even in the car radio CD

player.

Of course they can be played on a computer also.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

Re: testing question

> > >

> > > Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:05 PM

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > One therapist told me:

> > >

> > > Some Italian internist Dr. found out by

> accident (by looking into the scans of his wife and later

> comparing these with MS-patients) and many MS-patients seem

> to have a problem with the blood flow between head and rest

> of body, so the veins in the neck (V. Jugularis) should be

> at least opened for 0.8 centimeter,

> > >

> > > They can check that with a Doppler/sound

> test...

> > >

> > > The test is supposed to be harmless,

> although that may not be completely true, it's probably like

> 100 times safer than MRI,

> > >

> > > I'm not saying that this test is proof for

> MS, one Doctor I spoke on this he confirmed it may be useful

> to have a test done like this if you have MS-symptoms, but

> he said so far they're still investigating link MS and

> problems at the V. Jugularis...

> > >

> > > gr,

> > > .

> > >

> > >>

> > >> I was thinking of going to a Neuro. I

> will stand strong & not get an MRI. I would fry from it.

>

> > >>

> > >> Are there alternative tests for MS?

> > >>

> > >> Kathy

> > >>

> > >> [Non-text portions of this message

> have been removed]

> > >>

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been removed]

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

July 2, 2011

I have tried many detox regimes and am currently off and on the

Cilantro/Chorella supplements. I am going very slow with this as my liver is way

over taxed so do Oxicell-SE Glutathione and SOD cream, Mercola Whey (great for

Glutathione) in my goat milk shakes, and ESSIAC tea, (about 15 other things on

and off for liver support).

I too have been recently diagnosed with Celiac.

Had a DNA test recently and it showed Wheat and Gluten IgA (auto-immune,

anti-bodies).

So with permeability issues, toxins floating around is bad, bad, bad.

I am all for going slow, slow, slow in recovery regimens.

Thanks for asking, Diane.

On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Evie wrote:

> Hi, and ,

>

> I basically agree with both of you, however, I would like to point out one