Re: My 5010 emits EMF itself.

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All LCD displays do emit EMF.

Even the small clocks, the blue light of an USB hub, display of cv-thermostat,

etc.

So also the display of the Gigahertz meters.

I know because I am specialist in measuring *dirty air*.

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My 5010 emits EMF itself.

It's great to see the spectrum of radiation, but ... My 5010 emits EMF

itself. It does not matter if I do not use it for a long time, but the 5010

measure is very slow. In addition, I hoped to quickly locate sources of

radiation by the sound. But this feature of 5010 is very inconvenient.

Besides, I heard that Gigahertz meters do not generate EMF.

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Dmirtiy wrote:

> My 5010 emits EMF itself.

Yes, very very disappointing, isn't it?

> But this feature of 5010 is very inconvenient.

> Besides, I heard that Gigahertz meters do not generate EMF.

>

Better to phrase it, they (Gigahertz meters) generate less EMF.

> All LCD displays do emit EMF.

>

> Even the small clocks, the blue light of an USB hub, display of cv-thermostat,

etc.

> So also the display of the Gigahertz meters.

>

But wouldn't you agree those emit _Less_ EMF? or lower amplitudes that

don't travel as far?

> I know because I am specialist in measuring *dirty air*.

>

But you use and recommend a Spectran.

My Spectran I wish I had not bought, is loud enough to be picked up on

other quieter meters, at least 12 ft (4 m) away!

http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

[Guest guest]

Sure, one can compare camels with onions.

The use of Gigahertz NF meters are very limited.

With a Spectran NF one can measure magnetic fields in 3D !! Standard !!

I measure *dirty power* and *dirty air* from 1 Hz up to 30 MHz !

Very often, in the *Stetzer range* (5 kHz to 150 kHz) the peaks are not high,

but often I find heavy peaks between 3 MHz and 15 MHz.

In my collection of recorded modulations, I have also placed those of a very

expensive Rohde & Schwarz spectrumanalyser, who emits also a lot of EMF.

I suppose that you hold your meters against your head while measuring, like one

does with a cell phone.

I suppose that you did not read the manual completely.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: My 5010 emits EMF itself.

Dmirtiy wrote:

> My 5010 emits EMF itself.

Yes, very very disappointing, isn't it?

> But this feature of 5010 is very inconvenient.

> Besides, I heard that Gigahertz meters do not generate EMF.

>

Better to phrase it, they (Gigahertz meters) generate less EMF.

> All LCD displays do emit EMF.

>

> Even the small clocks, the blue light of an USB hub, display of

cv-thermostat, etc.

> So also the display of the Gigahertz meters.

>

But wouldn't you agree those emit _Less_ EMF? or lower amplitudes that

don't travel as far?

> I know because I am specialist in measuring *dirty air*.

>

But you use and recommend a Spectran.

My Spectran I wish I had not bought, is loud enough to be picked up on

other quieter meters, at least 12 ft (4 m) away!

http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

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[Guest guest]

charles wrote:

> Sure, one can compare camels with onions.

>

Well they do both have a strong odor.

> The use of Gigahertz NF meters are very limited.

> With a Spectran NF one can measure magnetic fields in 3D !! Standard !!

> I measure *dirty power* and *dirty air* from 1 Hz up to 30 MHz !

> Very often, in the *Stetzer range* (5 kHz to 150 kHz) the peaks are not high,

but often I find heavy peaks between 3 MHz and 15 MHz.

>

Technically very superior and impressive, yes.

But not for the electrically sensitive.

> expensive Rohde & Schwarz spectrumanalyser, who emits also a lot of EMF.

>

That is unfortunate.

> I suppose that you hold your meters against your head while measuring, like

one does with a cell phone.

>

No of course not, but I have been known to hold it in my hand. Or have

it 1 meter away when using the LCS software.

Perhaps I should only report on how far out the bubble goes, only record

where the emissions are barely detectable. That would be 1 cm for the

camel, and 400 cm for the onion.

> I suppose that you did not read the manual completely.

>

Why does everyone conclude that? Because I am trying to measure my

surroundings in an unapproved way?

I'm sorry you can't do that. Stop trying to find out what part of the

spectrum is active in your area.

Might as well put in bold typeface, you may only use this meter with LCS

software and approved known ranges for cellphones, etc.

The USA frequencies are not showing anything in the rural 900 MHz band,

except look, a little tiny blip in 2 frames of my 4 minute video I set

the camera up on a tripod for. I must be using it wrong.

Also when I upgraded, the said V4 would now detect W-LAN beacons.

Sure.

I can detect beacons at 350 meters with the camel, but not at 30 meters

with the onion. I must be using the wrong LCS profile setting! Sure.

I email ia, and they can't understand my english, and I can't

understand their germanized-english.

Be careful, I might start ranting, but nobody is willing to tell me how

to use the device, just keep reading the manual ad infinium.

[Guest guest]

I have used a spectran HF and NF. The HF causes

TV interference at several feet. Not good, but

I have not felt myself obviously react to it.

Unlike other handheld spectrum analyzers, including Fluke

which is well respected. So fluke bothers me, spectran

have not noticed (but others with EHS do find the spectran

HF very bothersome).

I expect to try some other handhelds soon. I've heard the

cheap Velleman handheld oscilloscopes are not too bad

in terms of emissions. But it is pretty limited functionally.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:01 AM, S son <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>

>

> charles wrote:

> > Sure, one can compare camels with onions.

> >

> Well they do both have a strong odor.

>

>

> > The use of Gigahertz NF meters are very limited.

> > With a Spectran NF one can measure magnetic fields in 3D !! Standard !!

> > I measure *dirty power* and *dirty air* from 1 Hz up to 30 MHz !

> > Very often, in the *Stetzer range* (5 kHz to 150 kHz) the peaks are not

> high, but often I find heavy peaks between 3 MHz and 15 MHz.

> >

> Technically very superior and impressive, yes.

> But not for the electrically sensitive.

>

>

> > expensive Rohde & Schwarz spectrumanalyser, who emits also a lot of EMF.

> >

> That is unfortunate.

>

>

> > I suppose that you hold your meters against your head while measuring,

> like one does with a cell phone.

> >

>

> No of course not, but I have been known to hold it in my hand. Or have

> it 1 meter away when using the LCS software.

> Perhaps I should only report on how far out the bubble goes, only record

> where the emissions are barely detectable. That would be 1 cm for the

> camel, and 400 cm for the onion.

>

>

> > I suppose that you did not read the manual completely.

> >

> Why does everyone conclude that? Because I am trying to measure my

> surroundings in an unapproved way?

> I'm sorry you can't do that. Stop trying to find out what part of the

> spectrum is active in your area.

> Might as well put in bold typeface, you may only use this meter with LCS

> software and approved known ranges for cellphones, etc.

>

> The USA frequencies are not showing anything in the rural 900 MHz band,

> except look, a little tiny blip in 2 frames of my 4 minute video I set

> the camera up on a tripod for. I must be using it wrong.

> Also when I upgraded, the said V4 would now detect W-LAN beacons.

> Sure.

> I can detect beacons at 350 meters with the camel, but not at 30 meters

> with the onion. I must be using the wrong LCS profile setting! Sure.

>

> I email ia, and they can't understand my english, and I can't

> understand their germanized-english.

>

> Be careful, I might start ranting, but nobody is willing to tell me how

> to use the device, just keep reading the manual ad infinium.

>

>

>

>

>