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Hi Aequalsz,

It's not quite on the list topic, but I think it might be of general

interest, so I'll send it there too (especially given the Olympics coverage

lately).

In brief, I'd say you should feel safer in Greece than in the USA... And

the Olympic coverage of 'modern' Greece is no exaggeration -- if you haven't

been there in 35 years, you'll be surprised.

35 years ago would have been a rather troubled time in Greece (I'm not a

historian, but 1970s still saw the Metaxas, I believe). On top of that, the

American dabbling in Greek politics was not looked on kindly. You'll find

that Greeks are, in general, vehemently opposed to American foreign policy,

as are Europeans in general, and if you bring the topic up, they won't be

shy of telling you so -- that said, in my opinion it's probably one of the

safest places to go in Europe. I feel *much* less safe when I'm in the USA,

especially when walking. Cyprus might be different, but that's another

country -- there's prodding between Greece & Turkey, but I don't think

terrorism is an issue. There have been some cross-border robberies and such

(antipathy is felt toward Albania in particular), but again, how often is

there a big robbery in a city over here?

Nonetheless, with regard to today in 2004, Greece has the lowest violent

crime rate in Europe (though the highest traffic mortality, I believe), and

I think a tourist can feel safe in places in Greece that one ought not to

in, say, London. I teach at a school there each year, and have heard

American parents calling from big US cities to query the safety of their

children on a Greek island -- my mind immediately conjures up tacky

responses related to the risks of walking down the wrong street in Baltimore

as opposed to visiting a village where everyone watches everything all the

time...

This is also something that I think relates to the Mediterranean Diet

studies -- the sense of community is still very strong, despite the

thoroughly modern accoutrements. For instance, I was in Athens when Greece

won the EuroCup. I saw not a single instance of violence or vandalism

during the celebrations of *millions* of people (though I'm sure there must

have been some), but had it been the UK and I was in a British pub, I'm sure

I'd be missing some teeth. No one is going to vandalize their neighbour's

house, and when the social net is tight, everyone is a neighbour...

It's anecdotal evidence, but neither I nor anyone who I know who visits

Greece has ever even been pick-pocketed (though this does apparently happen,

and tourist police are there for a purpose), but the same group of

colleagues has universally been mugged at least once in the US... Even

Greek taxis seem to have stopped over-charging, which amazes me now. You

can feel quite safe in Greece. Nonetheless, some quintessentially

Mediterranean things remain -- don't bother looking for a crosswalk most of

the time, line-ups are a grudgingly accepted fact that most try to deny, and

people will touch you, pinch you, pat you, kiss you, and do all sorts of

things that we North Americans are not used to. Enjoy.

Hmmm. As an aside, you'll find the country much changed over the past 35

years too. The Athenian metro is *very* good and the country is thoroughly

modernized. Sometimes the older, " pre-modern " things actual work better,

and are clung to in those cases, but it's not like visiting Albania (another

spot I'd recommend if you're on the West coast & have the time, but don't

think of it as safe if you're off the beaten path). Corfu is still my

favourite island, and it's an overnight ferry from Venice (get a room on the

boat, they're cheap), but is grand on the opposite side. I still

haven't been to Crete, but Cretan wines are marvellous (and cheap).

Cheers,

> -----Original Message-----

> From: aequalsz [mailto:

> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:40 AM

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> Subject: [ ] Re: macro nutrients, sat fats

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> > Ever see someone swig olive oil? I *love* spending my summers in

> Greece...

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> Hello,

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> Would it be possible to get your opinion about the safety of US

> citizens in Greece at the present time? I was there briefly during my

> army tour in Germany about 35 years ago but have heard the political

> climate has worsened since. Also read about a terrorist bombing in

> May of this year if I remember correctly. The reason I'm wondering is

> because I have a few extra days of my European vacation open and

> wanted to see Greece again. Thanks in advance.

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> Aequalsz

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