Re: Re: Paleolithic Diet (was: A Couple of Newbie Questions)

[Guest guest]

I think Fran's point may be that we don't need to know why we evolved - rather what we need to know now is the chemical systems in our body more accurately, and learn to manipulate those with the right hormones, whatever, to further extend lifespan. And it might be derived from purslane or tree bark.

And if it turns out to be contained in some common herb, the market will be cornered before we hear about it.

Regards.

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From: mikesheldrick

Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:34 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Paleolithic Diet (was: A Couple of Newbie Questions)

Infant mortality, death in birth, death by trauma took a huge toll. But those who survived did live to a fairly ripe old age. Someone in this thread opined that it doesn't make sense to attempt to learn about the diets of hominids. I disagree. Our evolution stretches over millions of years. Whatever we ate 2,000 years ago, or even 10,000 years ago has little bearing on how our bodies respond to various combos and types of carbo, protein, fat and macronutrients. It's worth spending to support archeologists, anthropologists, etc.If you want to research this topic (i.e.-- how a cave person not eaten by wolf, tiger, slain by enemy, etc Pub med gives a huge fair number of references if you search on "Paleolithic." Here's one, which posits a population explosion about 30,000 years ago.http://tinyurl.com/54s2t--- In , "loganruns73" <loganruns73@y...> wrote:> But more and more modern research is evolving the picture of a > healthy diet that is remarkably similar, if not virtually identical, > to a Mediterrenean Paleolithic diet. Walford's diet is essentially a > Mediterrenean Paleolithic diet if you make the appropriate changes to > eat only grass-fed meats, low-insulinic carbs and avoid refined oils.> > That begs the question: if our Paleolithic ancestors ate so > fantastically healthy compared to modern diets, why didn't they live > longer than 30-40 years of age? It's very unlikely they were eating > a lot of excess calories in a warm, temperate climate, or eating past > the point of satiety. So surely at least just one [skeleton] managed > to defy the negative odds of widespread infections and infant > mortality, the two reasons for our dramatic increase in the average > lifespan last century.> > Logan> > > > I always thought that our ideas about Omega 3's came from recent > scientific> > info, not from what we surmise about our ancestors . What our > ancestors ate> > isn't a scientific way to go about planning a modern diet and > doesn't always> > jibe with the healthiest way to eat from what we now know.

[Guest guest]

I haven't seen any of the respected scientific names (Walford, Ornish)

lauding a paleo diet. Walford recommends lots of whole grains, and a wide

variety of different foods. Sounds good to me. And primitive man surely

just ate whatever he/she could find/kill , not necessarily the nutrients

they were missing in their diet. If primitive men were in a climate where

the major of source of food was bananas, no doubt they ate a lot of bananas.

on 8/30/2004 8:56 PM, jwwright at jwwright@... wrote:

> I think Fran's point may be that we don't need to know why we evolved - rather

> what we need to know now is the chemical systems in our body more accurately,

> and learn to manipulate those with the right hormones, whatever, to further

> extend lifespan. And it might be derived from purslane or tree bark.

> And if it turns out to be contained in some common herb, the market will be

> cornered before we hear about it.

>

> Regards.

>

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> From: mikesheldrick

>

> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:34 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Paleolithic Diet (was: A Couple of Newbie

> Questions)

[Guest guest]

Americans will buy water.

But really, regardless what we evolved from, we live longer than nature could have planned for. Look at blood pressure, eg. Our pressure goes up as the system requires it for whatever reason. The brain could not have learned that high BP will give me a stroke - a devastating thing a million years ago. Today, I take drugs to control the BP because mother you know who did not plan for me to live 100 yrs. It wasn't "thought" necessary for me to live that long. Even if grandparents were "required" to pass info, they only needed to live to maybe 39 yrs old.

I would argue that BP meds are NOT paleo food.

Regards.

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Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Paleolithic Diet (was: A Couple of Newbie Questions)

Do you think there is a market for 10,000-year-old "balance" bars?So why don't the paleo followers today using that "modern research" that has evolved "the picture of a healthy diet", come up with "balance" bars..."