Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 > My mother has just been told that she must under go chemo and > radiation for stage 3a cancer. There is a tumor in the lung and it is > in the lymph nodes. Really need some information on how well the Beck > protocol works. > > Cliff I'm so sorry! Love and comfort help the body to heal and they're good anyway. I just started blood electrification and pulsing a couple weeks ago. I don't know much biology or medicine. The reason I think blood electrification probably works is the number of testimonials in curing local infections. I found them in different places. Also the original patent had lab test results. The Beck Protocol, which includes two more things besides what I am doing, should not be viewed as a pill. They are methods of destroying infectious agents' ability to infect. Some say those cause cancer. Same situation with testimonials and other academic reports. I'm optimistic on neutralizing and killing germs. But if the body cannot identify and kill cancer cells, it has a weak immune system. This would have to be addressed with detoxification, exercise and proper nutrition. These would be needed to keep the existing cancer from spreading further. The human body is a complicated, multi-system system. There are many, many things to read on different methods and discoveries. Every person I've read who says alternative medicine cured them read, corresponded with others and experimented A LOT. I would try to take a good attitude and dive in. This reading can help you choose the alternative practitioner(s) you feel most confident in. Some of those folks have been at this for decades and know things the medical doctors have not seen. Good luck to you and to your family. Best regards, Theron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Photo Dynamic Therapy works well for lung tumours but you need to use the laser. Regards, Noel. Professor Noel FACNEM FASID BDSc LDS Consultant Clinical Research Scientist Postal address: Post Office Box 137 Parkville VIC 3052 Australia Hope Medical Research Centre: Level 8 167 Street Melbourne Australia Telephone 03 9639 6090 International 613 9639 6090 Fax 03 9639 4006 International 613 9639 4006 Mobile 0412 994 001 International 61 412 994 001 Email noelc@... Web http://www.smile.org.au Re: Lung Cancer > My mother has just been told that she must under go chemo and > radiation for stage 3a cancer. There is a tumor in the lung and it is > in the lymph nodes. Really need some information on how well the Beck > protocol works. > > Cliff I'm so sorry! Love and comfort help the body to heal and they're good anyway. I just started blood electrification and pulsing a couple weeks ago. I don't know much biology or medicine. The reason I think blood electrification probably works is the number of testimonials in curing local infections. I found them in different places. Also the original patent had lab test results. The Beck Protocol, which includes two more things besides what I am doing, should not be viewed as a pill. They are methods of destroying infectious agents' ability to infect. Some say those cause cancer. Same situation with testimonials and other academic reports. I'm optimistic on neutralizing and killing germs. But if the body cannot identify and kill cancer cells, it has a weak immune system. This would have to be addressed with detoxification, exercise and proper nutrition. These would be needed to keep the existing cancer from spreading further. The human body is a complicated, multi-system system. There are many, many things to read on different methods and discoveries. Every person I've read who says alternative medicine cured them read, corresponded with others and experimented A LOT. I would try to take a good attitude and dive in. This reading can help you choose the alternative practitioner(s) you feel most confident in. Some of those folks have been at this for decades and know things the medical doctors have not seen. Good luck to you and to your family. Best regards, Theron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2004 Report Share Posted July 1, 2004 Hi Cliff. You might consider a few options. Personally, if it was me I would be doing Schulzes " Incurables Program " . I would also consider cesium choride and potassium. (do web search for these.) Also a hot house and chi machine. (http://www.excellentthings.com for these) A Hot House is a farinfrared unit. Japan uses Far infrared to treat cancer and considers chemo barbaric. Makes sense to me. I heard a testimony recently of a man who was sent home from the hospital with a week to live who was loaned a hot house and chi machine to ease him on his way out. Instead he recovered. I woiuld also do homozon to massive clean the bowel and flood the body with O1. I would do this instead of the bowel cleanse included in the Incurables program, as it is just as effective, if not more and does not irritate the bowel. Cleansing the bowel and liver and kidneys and blood is paramount, even tho the lungs are the area affected. These other areas are responsible for carrying life sustaining nutrients and immune factors to the lungs. I also heard a testimony of an elderly man with prostate cancer who did hot and cold water therapy and was healed in less that six weeks. Hot and cold water therapy is challenging, but also extremely effective and free. Starting with warm/cool and working up to hot/cold is wise with older folks or timid folks, or kids, from what I understand. Nothing works first time everytime for everyone, as there are varying factors, like emotions and enviroment, etc. But the above work more often than not when used alone. Put them all together and it would be hard to fail, in my opinion. Total cost would be around $2500 - $3000 If it was me, I would have confidence in the above items, plus a few minor things like enzymes and coral calcium and some probiotics and mabe some ozonated water. I know that Beck's protocol has worked for many, but I would have to say that I don't personally have enough confidence in it to trust it alone to rid me of cancer. I feel a definite challenge to my body when I do blood electrification and so I feel that tho it helps me in some ways it tears me down in others. I never have felt anything negative from far infra red or the chi machine or ozone or healing herbs when taken correctly. So that is why I would, personally, prefer the options listed above. There are many ways to climb the mountain. For some people, just juicing is enough to turn their system totally around. It is easy to get bogged down with all the option out there. So it is necessary to educate your self but then allow your heart to help you choose the path that is right for you. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com >>My mother has just been told that she must under go chemo and >>radiation for stage 3a cancer. There is a tumor in the lung and it is >>in the lymph nodes. Really need some information on how well the Beck >>protocol works. >> >>Cliff >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Hi Marlis, For curing cancer you need to remove the cancer and every last pathology you find in your bodies in an active way. Without the Cure Shows you can start testing and removing too. There was a lesson from Keely " retrace your baby-steps " , on this list about two days ago. Even when you don't get a signal yet you can do these steps. Also you can remove cancer from your bodies by saying :I remove cancer from ...Body. As is recommended to ph, join the Cancer group and be welcome to start working there. It certainly will help to visualize yourself as healthy, but you need to do more. Esther, moderator Speaking of disease.............. Lungs can be holding of sadness...............? for myself.......... Haven't been able to get on a cure show. Is it OK to just close my eyes and visual and imagine that I am cured? I had breast cancer 5 years ago and now they are wanting to check something again, and I cannot bare the thought of going through that again! I just cannot. I eat good and drink vegetable juice. Thanks and I hope all the world gets healed. On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 02:50:44 -0000 " joseph " <josephjerneyuy@...> writes: > > > Moderator note: Hi ph, please review the following pages for > the protocol to cure any kind of cancer, including lung cancer. > > http://www.immunics.org/colleague/0lesson/0can.htm > > Also, we have an immunics buddies cancer group. Please join that > group and write an introductory message so that the group can work > with you or your loved one to get rid of lung cancer. Hope to see > you there! > > Moira, a moderator > > > Good day! > > Can anybody knows how to cure or control this desease? Im not > favorable to conventional treatment, it is a failure approach of > this > kind of desease! > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 In a message dated 8/12/2005 10:32:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, naturegirl32000@... writes: Hi All, My mom was just diagnosed with lung cancer. I don't think she has a lot of time?? She is refusing 'conventional' treatment. I am sending out an SOS to everyone for protocols, supplements and recommendations on a rife machine to possibly shrink the tumors. I am considering possible a clinic in mexico. All suggestions welcome. I checked the archives and there was no protocol per se. You can contact me through this email or cell 360-608-4864. God bless you all, I know of a Dr. Donsbach who treats Cancer in Hospital Santa in Mexico. Dr. Donsbach, D.C., N.D., Ph.D.Phone: 800-359-6547 or 619-427-3007Fax: 619-475-9961e-mail to:info@...©2001, , www.drdonsbach.com. Kiefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 > Hi All, > My mom was just diagnosed with lung cancer. All suggestions welcome. I checked the > archives and there was no protocol per se. You can contact me through > this email or cell 360-608-4864. > > God bless you all, > Jacquleine, high pH therapy includes cesium chloride, potassium, calcium, magnesium and ozone therapy plus nutritional support. It upsets the stomach for som people but its remarkably cheap except for the ozone therapy and it gives a very good chance of recovery, or at least, keps the patient fairly healthy and thus buys a huge whack of time with which one can mount other campaigns. Tumors shrink in just days to weeks. It's also said to reduce pain in 36 to 48 hours. This can be combined with electromedicine. Specific cancer frequencies exist in the Consolidated Annotated Frequency List electroherbalism.com A glutathione antioxidant precursor, namely cold-processed whey, has been used with excellent results; a peer-reviewed compilation of studies exists on my website. " WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE (WPC) AND GLUTATHIONE MODULATION IN CANCER TREATMENT " by Gustavo Bounous, M.D., F.R.C.S. ©. This is peer-reviewed material. http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/WPC-as-a-Cysteine-Donor.pdf Of course since all the antioxidants work together, you'd take additional ones. Intravenous vitamin C (sodium ascorbate) therapy is still used in many cancer clinics to shrink tumours. Can't underestimate the power of antioxidant therapy. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 you probably already know most, if not all, of this but thinking of you Azizah Clayton wrote: Dear Jackie I am writing to you personally as well as the group because I think it will get to you directly and quicker. I see many cancer clients and have some advice to offer. If she does not want "conventional" treatment then it's probably the right choice for her. There are a number of things you can do at home before you go to a clinic in Mexico. 1. Give her as much NUTRIENT DENSE FOODS as she can take: - vegetable juicing (use Greenstar twin gear juicer for best effects) - vegetables of a rainbow colour + ginger and a clove of garlic daily. I put in Ambrotose powder in it and vitamin C. - Increase her Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) intake - start with evening primrose oil for a month (to reduce inflammation) + seeds (4 Tbsp Flaxseeds + 1 Tbsp sesame + 1 Tbsp sunflower + 1 Tbsp pumpkin , all organic - grind in coffee grinder for 20 seconds and keep in tight container in fridge and take 2 Tbsp daily with a glass of water) for lignin, fibre and EFAs + a good source of fish oil (Check Kane's E-Lyte oils - she is the Queen of Lipids) - organic/free range eggs (2 minute boiled) are superfoods, avocados, fermented foods (cottage cheese, saurkraut, miso, keffir, etc.), and not too much fruit (mainly local/seasonal fruits) but berries (blueberries, raspberries, blackberries etc.) are a must for antioxidants and phytonutrients. - protein source - goat whey protein is best to supplement intake of fish etc. Proteins are important since they are precursors of immune cells, enzymes, hormones, albumin etc. - reduce carbohydrates (6 of veg., 2 of fruit, 1 of protein and 1 of carbohydrates + adequate EFAs - good proportions for ill people) - cut out sugar completely including refined carbos. - cancer cells love and thrive on sugar, also sugar depresses immune system. - SUPPLEMENTS - cancer clinics will give IV Vit C, Laetrile etc. But you could also include these products from Garden of Life (all organic and made from foods): an antioxidant green food - Perfect Food? FYI etc. + Lysine C from Drt Matthias Rath (this has been shown to prevent metastasis, it destroys the collagen digesting enzymes that's produced by cancer cells which break down collagen which allow cancer cells to invade other tissues) Graviola Mushrooms - Maitake, Shiitake, Corialus Versicolor etc. Bromelain Curcumin Quercetin Ambrotose - contains 8 essential monosaccharides which are required by immune cells to form glycoproteins and glycolipids for communication. Noni Juice Essaic tea Bee propolis Delta Immune/Wholly Immune from Allergy research 2. Balance blood sugar by diet and timing of eating and checking on SCIO 3. Reduce Inflammation, allergic foods, pathogens etc. + Vitalzyme on empty stomach (digests Immune Complexes ICs) - use the SCIO as well to do this + Life Force 2000 - so that the immune cells can concentrate on cancer cells. 4. Boost Immune system - with naturalfoods, supplements made from foods and not synthetically manufactured, sun (light), adequate filtered water (not reverse osmosis or distilled water), good sleep - vital, reduction of stress, worry ( related to spleen and immune system) and anxiety (related to lungs), visualization, emotional work, prayers, family love, arometherapy, homeopathy (consult a homeopath) etc. 5. If you have access to an infra red sauna - that's a very good way of detoxing gently but take care to use electrolytes and minerals to replace any that's lost through the skin. Kane's E-Lyte products are one of the best for Electrolytes, liquid ionised minerals (best absorbed by body) and EFAs. E-Lyte liquid Selenium is a MUST since selenium is required to manufacture GLUTATHIONE ( most important endogenous enzymes - the body's guardian angel) + adequate Amino acids (Glycine, Glutamine and Cysteine). 6. If you have access to oxygen therapy then it's great. Cancer cells hate oxygen - they are anaerobic. 7. As per usual SCIO therapy - degeneration, Brain Scan, Cancer scan, Hamer, Trivector DNA, Meridian, Sarcodes, Balance body electrics (Harmonic Therapy, Body Scan, Chakra, Aura, Supspace Morphic Trans) etc. etc. Do some of the following and use them intuitively. For example Malonic Acid (6813),needs to be low. - Zap pathogens - Autozap or use Info view - Check Liver and give support if necessary - milkthiste, curcumin, artichoke, picahorrza, green tea, cruciferous vegs., beetroot, carrots, dandelion, chicory. - Support adrenals - check thyroid - check Narayani homeopathics - Narayani Special 13 Cancer 3x (7298), + some other immune boosting ones and infections - Zap Blood Protein Albumin 3953 (must increase to deal with cancer), Transfer factors (5306 - 5312), Selenium (777, 6492, 6203, 7419), Ellagic Acid (7764, 2470), Glutathione Peroxidase and Reductase (2689, 1327), Catalase (2661, 1429), Power Mushrooms 7514), Shiitake ((7421), Bromelain (7336, 384), Ambrotose (3622), Wobenzyme(6172), Lipoic Acid (547), Organic Minerals (6467) I can go on and on but I must stop. I attach a file for you to check on Natural Compounds which have been tested against Cancer. I am probably out of date since research in this area as in other areas of nutrition is explosive - impossible to keep up with. If you are in America you are very lucky because some of the best research, books and supplements are found in the States. Contact me direct if you wish and you can ring me too to have a chat. All the best and take good care of your Mom and yourself. Azizah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Just met a man who was cleared of lung cancer using powdered form of IP6. Jarrow Company has a good one. This also cleared a doctor's wife of ovarian cancer and I have sent some to a friend of mine in last stages of ovarian cancer and she is now getting up every day and eating a bowl of creamed wheat which she could not do a week ago. Lump in her stomach is gone.....who knows? She does 2 tsp a day. Lung Cancer Dear JackieI am writing to you personally as well as the group because I think it will get to you directly and quicker. I see many cancer clients and have some advice to offer. If she does not want "conventional" treatment then it's probably the right choice for her.There are a number of things you can do at home before you go to a clinic in Mexico.1. Give her as much NUTRIENT DENSE FOODS as she can take:- vegetable juicing (use Greenstar twin gear juicer for best effects) - vegetables of a rainbow colour + ginger and a clove of garlic daily. I put in Ambrotose powder in it and vitamin C.- Increase her Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) intake - start with evening primrose oil for a month (to reduce inflammation) + seeds (4 Tbsp Flaxseeds + 1 Tbsp sesame + 1 Tbsp sunflower + 1 Tbsp pumpkin , all organic - grind in coffee grinder for 20 seconds and keep in tight container in fridge and take 2 Tbsp daily with a glass of water) for lignin, fibre and EFAs + a good source of fish oil (Check Kane's E-Lyte oils - she is the Queen of Lipids)- organic/free range eggs (2 minute boiled) are superfoods, avocados, fermented foods (cottage cheese, saurkraut, miso, keffir, etc.), and not too much fruit (mainly local/seasonal fruits) but berries (blueberries, raspberries, blackberries etc.) are a must for antioxidants and phytonutrients.- protein source - goat whey protein is best to supplement intake of fish etc. Proteins are important since they are precursors of immune cells, enzymes, hormones, albumin etc.- reduce carbohydrates (6 of veg., 2 of fruit, 1 of protein and 1 of carbohydrates + adequate EFAs - good proportions for ill people)- cut out sugar completely including refined carbos. - cancer cells love and thrive on sugar, also sugar depresses immune system.- SUPPLEMENTS - cancer clinics will give IV Vit C, Laetrile etc. But you could also include these products from Garden of Life (all organic and made from foods):an antioxidantgreen food - Perfect Food?FYI etc. + Lysine C from Drt Matthias Rath (this has been shown to prevent metastasis, it destroys the collagen digesting enzymes that's produced by cancer cells which break down collagen which allow cancer cells to invade other tissues)GraviolaMushrooms - Maitake, Shiitake, Corialus Versicolor etc.BromelainCurcuminQuercetinAmbrotose - contains 8 essential monosaccharides which are required by immune cells to form glycoproteins and glycolipids for communication.Noni JuiceEssaic teaBee propolisDelta Immune/Wholly Immune from Allergy research2. Balance blood sugar by diet and timing of eating and checking on SCIO3. Reduce Inflammation, allergic foods, pathogens etc. + Vitalzyme on empty stomach (digests Immune Complexes ICs) - use the SCIO as well to do this + Life Force 2000 - so that the immune cells can concentrate on cancer cells.4. Boost Immune system - with naturalfoods, supplements made from foods and not synthetically manufactured, sun (light), adequate filtered water (not reverse osmosis or distilled water), good sleep - vital, reduction of stress, worry ( related to spleen and immune system) and anxiety (related to lungs), visualization, emotional work, prayers, family love, arometherapy, homeopathy (consult a homeopath) etc.5. If you have access to an infra red sauna - that's a very good way of detoxing gently but take care to use electrolytes and minerals to replace any that's lost through the skin. Kane's E-Lyte products are one of the best for Electrolytes, liquid ionised minerals (best absorbed by body) and EFAs. E-Lyte liquid Selenium is a MUST since selenium is required to manufacture GLUTATHIONE ( most important endogenous enzymes - the body's guardian angel) + adequate Amino acids (Glycine, Glutamine and Cysteine).6. If you have access to oxygen therapy then it's great. Cancer cells hate oxygen - they are anaerobic. 7. As per usual SCIO therapy - degeneration, Brain Scan, Cancer scan, Hamer, Trivector DNA, Meridian, Sarcodes, Balance body electrics (Harmonic Therapy, Body Scan, Chakra, Aura, Supspace Morphic Trans) etc. etc. Do some of the following and use them intuitively. For example Malonic Acid (6813),needs to be low. - Zap pathogens - Autozap or use Info view- Check Liver and give support if necessary - milkthiste, curcumin, artichoke, picahorrza, green tea, cruciferous vegs., beetroot, carrots, dandelion, chicory.- Support adrenals- check thyroid- check Narayani homeopathics - Narayani Special 13 Cancer 3x (7298), + some other immune boosting ones and infections- Zap Blood Protein Albumin 3953 (must increase to deal with cancer), Transfer factors (5306 - 5312), Selenium (777, 6492, 6203, 7419), Ellagic Acid (7764, 2470), Glutathione Peroxidase and Reductase (2689, 1327), Catalase (2661, 1429), Power Mushrooms 7514), Shiitake ((7421), Bromelain (7336, 384), Ambrotose (3622), Wobenzyme(6172), Lipoic Acid (547), Organic Minerals (6467)I can go on and on but I must stop. I attach a file for you to check on Natural Compounds which have been tested against Cancer. I am probably out of date since research in this area as in other areas of nutrition is explosive - impossible to keep up with. If you are in America you are very lucky because some of the best research, books and supplements are found in the States.Contact me direct if you wish and you can ring me too to have a chat. All the best and take good care of your Mom and yourself. Azizah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Hello Azizah, very interesting and helpful! One question: Why not reverse osmosis water? We drink this water daily - but we adjust the ph value to 7.5 - 8. Are there others reasons? Looking forward to hearing from you! Eberhard & Doro From: Azizah Clayton Jackie ; qxci-english Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: Lung Cancer Dear JackieI am writing to you personally as well as the group because I think it will get to you directly and quicker. I see many cancer clients and have some advice to offer. If she does not want "conventional" treatment then it's probably the right choice for her.There are a number of things you can do at home before you go to a clinic in Mexico.1. Give her as much NUTRIENT DENSE FOODS as she can take:- vegetable juicing (use Greenstar twin gear juicer for best effects) - vegetables of a rainbow colour + ginger and a clove of garlic daily. I put in Ambrotose powder in it and vitamin C.- Increase her Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) intake - start with evening primrose oil for a month (to reduce inflammation) + seeds (4 Tbsp Flaxseeds + 1 Tbsp sesame + 1 Tbsp sunflower + 1 Tbsp pumpkin , all organic - grind in coffee grinder for 20 seconds and keep in tight container in fridge and take 2 Tbsp daily with a glass of water) for lignin, fibre and EFAs + a good source of fish oil (Check Kane's E-Lyte oils - she is the Queen of Lipids)- organic/free range eggs (2 minute boiled) are superfoods, avocados, fermented foods (cottage cheese, saurkraut, miso, keffir, etc.), and not too much fruit (mainly local/seasonal fruits) but berries (blueberries, raspberries, blackberries etc.) are a must for antioxidants and phytonutrients.- protein source - goat whey protein is best to supplement intake of fish etc. Proteins are important since they are precursors of immune cells, enzymes, hormones, albumin etc.- reduce carbohydrates (6 of veg., 2 of fruit, 1 of protein and 1 of carbohydrates + adequate EFAs - good proportions for ill people)- cut out sugar completely including refined carbos. - cancer cells love and thrive on sugar, also sugar depresses immune system.- SUPPLEMENTS - cancer clinics will give IV Vit C, Laetrile etc. But you could also include these products from Garden of Life (all organic and made from foods):an antioxidantgreen food - Perfect Food?FYI etc. + Lysine C from Drt Matthias Rath (this has been shown to prevent metastasis, it destroys the collagen digesting enzymes that's produced by cancer cells which break down collagen which allow cancer cells to invade other tissues)GraviolaMushrooms - Maitake, Shiitake, Corialus Versicolor etc.BromelainCurcuminQuercetinAmbrotose - contains 8 essential monosaccharides which are required by immune cells to form glycoproteins and glycolipids for communication.Noni JuiceEssaic teaBee propolisDelta Immune/Wholly Immune from Allergy research2. Balance blood sugar by diet and timing of eating and checking on SCIO3. Reduce Inflammation, allergic foods, pathogens etc. + Vitalzyme on empty stomach (digests Immune Complexes ICs) - use the SCIO as well to do this + Life Force 2000 - so that the immune cells can concentrate on cancer cells.4. Boost Immune system - with naturalfoods, supplements made from foods and not synthetically manufactured, sun (light), adequate filtered water (not reverse osmosis or distilled water), good sleep - vital, reduction of stress, worry ( related to spleen and immune system) and anxiety (related to lungs), visualization, emotional work, prayers, family love, arometherapy, homeopathy (consult a homeopath) etc.5. If you have access to an infra red sauna - that's a very good way of detoxing gently but take care to use electrolytes and minerals to replace any that's lost through the skin. Kane's E-Lyte products are one of the best for Electrolytes, liquid ionised minerals (best absorbed by body) and EFAs. E-Lyte liquid Selenium is a MUST since selenium is required to manufacture GLUTATHIONE ( most important endogenous enzymes - the body's guardian angel) + adequate Amino acids (Glycine, Glutamine and Cysteine).6. If you have access to oxygen therapy then it's great. Cancer cells hate oxygen - they are anaerobic. 7. As per usual SCIO therapy - degeneration, Brain Scan, Cancer scan, Hamer, Trivector DNA, Meridian, Sarcodes, Balance body electrics (Harmonic Therapy, Body Scan, Chakra, Aura, Supspace Morphic Trans) etc. etc. Do some of the following and use them intuitively. For example Malonic Acid (6813),needs to be low. - Zap pathogens - Autozap or use Info view- Check Liver and give support if necessary - milkthiste, curcumin, artichoke, picahorrza, green tea, cruciferous vegs., beetroot, carrots, dandelion, chicory.- Support adrenals- check thyroid- check Narayani homeopathics - Narayani Special 13 Cancer 3x (7298), + some other immune boosting ones and infections- Zap Blood Protein Albumin 3953 (must increase to deal with cancer), Transfer factors (5306 - 5312), Selenium (777, 6492, 6203, 7419), Ellagic Acid (7764, 2470), Glutathione Peroxidase and Reductase (2689, 1327), Catalase (2661, 1429), Power Mushrooms 7514), Shiitake ((7421), Bromelain (7336, 384), Ambrotose (3622), Wobenzyme(6172), Lipoic Acid (547), Organic Minerals (6467)I can go on and on but I must stop. I attach a file for you to check on Natural Compounds which have been tested against Cancer. I am probably out of date since research in this area as in other areas of nutrition is explosive - impossible to keep up with. If you are in America you are very lucky because some of the best research, books and supplements are found in the States.Contact me direct if you wish and you can ring me too to have a chat. All the best and take good care of your Mom and yourself. Azizah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Carolyn - when you use we get it on !!!! This can be a serious issue, and you must stay on top of it.. He says he thinks he got it all out, lets pray that he did!!!! At 78 you are not too old to get into trouble with LC. From what I know about you, you've done well and taken good care of yourself with the CLL. I don't think LC "lurks behind the CLL". My guess is that the CLL will let you go to a fine old age, but watch the LC!!! No guessing, make sure you're clean. See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 How do I make sure that I am clean, ? I appreciate your word of caution, but I do not know what to do besides have a biopsy by an excellent surgeon, which I did, and following it with my 6 month CLL CT-scans. Please give me any further advice you have. Carolyn --- jb50192@... wrote: > Carolyn - when you use we get it on !!!! > > This can be a serious issue, and you must stay on > top of it.. > > He says he thinks he got it all out, lets pray that > he did!!!! > > At 78 you are not too old to get into trouble with > LC. From what I know > about you, you've done well and taken good care of > yourself with the CLL. > > I don't think LC " lurks behind the CLL " . > > My guess is that the CLL will let you go to a fine > old age, but watch the > LC!!! No guessing, make sure you're clean. > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > new at http://www.aol.com > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Carolyn, I may have missed something. What did the biopsy of the lung nodule demonstrate? Has the lung nodule been changing in size. The need for follow-up on a long nodule will depend upon whether it has changed over time and whether the biopsy was able to provide a definitive diagnosis of something benign. Rick Furman, MD At 11:22 AM 10/8/2007, you wrote: How do I make sure that I am clean, ? I appreciate your word of caution, but I do not know what to do besides have a biopsy by an excellent surgeon, which I did, and following it with my 6 month CLL CT-scans. Please give me any further advice you have. Carolyn --- jb50192@... wrote: > Carolyn - when you use we get it on !!!! > > This can be a serious issue, and you must stay on > top of it.. > > He says he thinks he got it all out, lets pray that > he did!!!! > > At 78 you are not too old to get into trouble with > LC. From what I know > about you, you've done well and taken good care of > yourself with the CLL. > > I don't think LC " lurks behind the CLL " . > > My guess is that the CLL will let you go to a fine > old age, but watch the > LC!!! No guessing, make sure you're clean. > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > new at http://www.aol.com > __________________________________________________________ Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 My last Ct-scan for CLL showed a lung nodule that seemed to have changed. So I had a PET-scan, which also was not clear as to the nature of the nodule except that it was, as they said, " hot " . As a result they decided to do a biopsy, and thus they determined that it was lung cancer. I feel grateful now that I had CLL because without the care that was given to have CT-scans because of my CLL, I would not have learned about the lung cancer! I guess that I will now have two oncologists, one for CLL and one for lung cancer. Who would have thought that CLL would be a blessing? Carolyn --- " R. Furman " <rrfurman@...> wrote: > Carolyn, > I may have missed something. What did the biopsy of > the lung nodule > demonstrate? Has the lung nodule been changing in > size. The need for > follow-up on a long nodule will depend upon whether > it has changed over > time and whether the biopsy was able to provide a > definitive diagnosis of > something benign. > > Rick Furman, MD > > At 11:22 AM 10/8/2007, you wrote: > > >How do I make sure that I am clean, ? I > appreciate > >your word of caution, but I do not know what to do > >besides have a biopsy by an excellent surgeon, > which I > >did, and following it with my 6 month CLL CT-scans. > >Please give me any further advice you have. Carolyn > >--- <mailto:jb50192%40aol.com>jb50192@... > wrote: > > > > > Carolyn - when you use we get it on > !!!! > > > > > > This can be a serious issue, and you must stay > on > > > top of it.. > > > > > > He says he thinks he got it all out, lets pray > that > > > he did!!!! > > > > > > At 78 you are not too old to get into trouble > with > > > LC. From what I know > > > about you, you've done well and taken good care > of > > > yourself with the CLL. > > > > > > I don't think LC " lurks behind the CLL " . > > > > > > My guess is that the CLL will let you go to a > fine > > > old age, but watch the > > > LC!!! No guessing, make sure you're clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See > what's > > > new at <http://www.aol.com>http://www.aol.com > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >Shape in your own image. Join our Network > Research Panel today! > ><http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7>http://surveylink.\ /gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Carolyn, Was the lung cancer fully resected? If it was then just follow-up scans are all that are needed, assuming that it is what we call non-small cell lung cancer. I am glad it was found early. Rick Furman, MD Re: Lung cancer > My last Ct-scan for CLL showed a lung nodule that > seemed to have changed. So I had a PET-scan, which > also was not clear as to the nature of the nodule > except that it was, as they said, "hot". As a result > they decided to do a biopsy, and thus they determined > that it was lung cancer. I feel grateful now that I > had CLL because without the care that was given to > have CT-scans because of my CLL, I would not have > learned about the lung cancer! I guess that I will now > have two oncologists, one for CLL and one for lung > cancer. Who would have thought that CLL would be a > blessing? Carolyn > --- " R. Furman" <rrfurman@...> > wrote: > > > Carolyn, > > I may have missed something. What did the biopsy of > > the lung nodule > > demonstrate? Has the lung nodule been changing in > > size. The need for > > follow-up on a long nodule will depend upon whether > > it has changed over > > time and whether the biopsy was able to provide a > > definitive diagnosis of > > something benign. > > > > Rick Furman, MD > > > > At 11:22 AM 10/8/2007, you wrote: > > > > >How do I make sure that I am clean, ? I > > appreciate > > >your word of caution, but I do not know what to do > > >besides have a biopsy by an excellent surgeon, > > which I > > >did, and following it with my 6 month CLL CT-scans. > > >Please give me any further advice you have. Carolyn > > >--- <jb50192%40aol.com>jb50192@... > > wrote: > > > > > > > Carolyn - when you use we get it on > > !!!! > > > > > > > > This can be a serious issue, and you must stay > > on > > > > top of it.. > > > > > > > > He says he thinks he got it all out, lets pray > > that > > > > he did!!!! > > > > > > > > At 78 you are not too old to get into trouble > > with > > > > LC. From what I know > > > > about you, you've done well and taken good care > > of > > > > yourself with the CLL. > > > > > > > > I don't think LC "lurks behind the CLL". > > > > > > > > My guess is that the CLL will let you go to a > > fine > > > > old age, but watch the > > > > LC!!! No guessing, make sure you're clean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See > > what's > > > > new at <http://www.aol.com>http://www.aol.com > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > > >Shape in your own image. Join our Network > > Research Panel today! > > > ><http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7>http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 I need to be removed from e-mail list . Thank you" R. Furman" <rrfurman@...> wrote: Carolyn,I may have missed something. What did the biopsy of the lung nodule demonstrate? Has the lung nodule been changing in size. The need for follow-up on a long nodule will depend upon whether it has changed over time and whether the biopsy was able to provide a definitive diagnosis of something benign.Rick Furman, MDAt 11:22 AM 10/8/2007, you wrote: How do I make sure that I am clean, ? I appreciateyour word of caution, but I do not know what to dobesides have a biopsy by an excellent surgeon, which Idid, and following it with my 6 month CLL CT-scans.Please give me any further advice you have. Carolyn--- jb50192aol wrote:> Carolyn - when you use we get it on !!!!> > This can be a serious issue, and you must stay on> top of it..> > He says he thinks he got it all out, lets pray that> he did!!!!> > At 78 you are not too old to get into trouble with> LC. From what I know > about you, you've done well and taken good care of> yourself with the CLL.> > I don't think LC "lurks behind the CLL".> > My guess is that the CLL will let you go to a fine> old age, but watch the > LC!!! No guessing, make sure you're clean.> > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's> new at http://www.aol.com> __________________________________________________________Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside . See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 I need to be removed from e-mail list. Thank you. Greg Billings USIT Field Services Tampa _________________________________________________________________The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Pricewaterhouses LLP is a Delaware limited liability partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Always interested to know why someone unsubscribes, we are always trying to improve the group. Could you let me know? Thanks. Check out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Lung cancer is not the most common cancer in either men or women. Prostate cancer is certainly number one in men and breast cancer is number one in women. It cuts lung cancer at approximately half; so you can see breast cancer is much more common than lung cancer. However, if you look at the deaths from cancer, lung cancer, it is by far the biggest killer in both men and women.http://www.safeurlives.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.