Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 , I still don't understand. Could you please explain your terms as precisely as you can. As appropriate, please give us the necessary chemistry and definitions. For example, are you talking about I2, I-, or something else. "Nascent Iodine" = ??? What precisely is "nascent iodine"? "Detoxified iodine" = ??? What precisely is "detoxified iodine"? "diatomic bond of the iodine" = ??? What exactly do you mean by "breaks the diatomic bond"? How does that "energize it"? "nascent effect" = ??? What is a "nascent effect"? What do you mean by "the iodine atoms have this nascent effect in the body"? ========== In your last sentence, are you referring to your materials in the files section? If so, the link to your section is iodine/files/90%20Miscellaneous%20Information/%27s%20Info%20on%20Nascent%20%20Iodine/ If you want to refer to a particular file within that section, you can give the specific link. Thanks. Zoe Re: Amazing allergy resistance-- iodine??Wow that is amazing! That gives me hope since I am an iodine weenie too. I can only tolerate 3 drops of detoxified iodine per day and only if I take two epsom salts baths and take a whole teaspoons of celtic salt per day!.IreneAt 02:08 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote: Hello, I believe I have a great result of iodine therapy. Though Ifirst have to say I am a total iodine weenie, and can only tolerate1/8 of an Iodoral about twice a week. However, even so, it is oak pollen season here in Daytona. Thepollen from my neighbors trees is 4 inches thick on parts of my roofand driveway. Every year, I get achy, sinus congestion, bone pain,misery, etc, and half my neighbors regularly get pneumonia at thistime from complications. This year, ever since I took my teeny dosesof iodine, my sinuses are dry, my sense of smell is enhanced,( I candetect a gardenia blooming two blocks away) and I am pain and allergyfree.The only other recent change I've made is to add estradiol, but Ithink this is the iodine. Wow. I'm impressed. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut.Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Beta. Need Mail bonding?Go to the Q & A for great tips from Answers users. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.12/724 - Release Date: 3/16/2007 12:12 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I think the only source we have for it is listed in the files section on the group website. Nascent Iodine > Where is the best place to buy 'Nascent Iodine' (Atomidine or Atomic > Iodine) insofar as price, quality and reliability? > > You may email me directly. > > Thanx. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi Friend There are several sites that distribute Nascent iodine in the US, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Many private labels handle it as well, so as long as they assure that it is taken to the nascent state that is what matters. All products that are in the nascent state should preform equally well. They are all made according to Cayce 358-1 recommendations. Products made to 358-2 (call detoxified) are different in that the molecule is energized not seperated to the nascent state. It takes much longer and a higher electromagnetic field to produce the nascent state of iodine. hire --- debtsforgiven <debtsforgiven@...> wrote: > Where is the best place to buy 'Nascent Iodine' > (Atomidine or Atomic > Iodine) insofar as price, quality and reliability? > > You may email me directly. > > Thanx. > > Thanks, hire john@... www.magnascent.com ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi Friend There are several sites that distribute Nascent iodine in the US, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Many private labels handle it as well, so as long as they assure that it is taken to the nascent state that is what matters. All products that are in the nascent state should preform equally well. They are all made according to Cayce 358-1 recommendations. Products made to 358-2 (call detoxified) are different in that the molecule is energized not seperated to the nascent state. It takes much longer and a higher electromagnetic field to produce the nascent state of iodine. hire --- debtsforgiven <debtsforgiven@...> wrote: > Where is the best place to buy 'Nascent Iodine' > (Atomidine or Atomic > Iodine) insofar as price, quality and reliability? > > You may email me directly. > > Thanx. > > Thanks, hire john@... www.magnascent.com ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 hire is the one who represents Nascent iodine. He is traveling for a week or two (can't remember) and is off the list for now. Here is his website http://www.magnascent.com there is some info there for you. Most of us use Lugol's and Iodoral so that is why you find pretty much only that info. nascent iodine > Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and > specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site > iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent > iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling > it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine. > Thanks, > Tor > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Thanks, . Tor nascent iodine> Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and> specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site> iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent> iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling> it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine.> Thanks,> Tor>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 YW nascent iodine> Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and> specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site> iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent> iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling> it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine.> Thanks,> Tor>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 val, that's a cool website, lots of thyroid gland and breast cancer and other hormone related info too! sandiladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: hire is the one who represents Nascent iodine. He is traveling for a week or two (can't remember) and is off the list for now. Here is his website http://www.magnascent.com there is some info there for you. Most of us use Lugol's and Iodoral so that is why you find pretty much only that info. nascent iodine> Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and> specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site> iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent> iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling> it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine.> Thanks,> Tor>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi , hire sells Nascent iodine. I was hoping to find independent analysis. Also, why do most of you use Lugol's and Iodoral when Nascent is allegedly so much superior (better absorbability, more energized, etc.)? Tor nascent iodine> Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and> specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site> iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent> iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling> it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine.> Thanks,> Tor>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I use Iodoral (pill form of Lugol's) because I am looking for full body saturation. It contains Iodine & Iodide which different parts of your body need differently types. You are not going to get that with nascent. Nascent seems to give people energy and help with viral things. But for me I have issues at the cellular level with DNA and Apoptosis. These two things require highly saturated cells. I had PCOS, Fibrous Breasts and trying to heal from thyroid cancer. I took 50 mgs of Iodoral for 6 mos and all normalized with the exception of 1 mass in my breast which is now gone. It also pushes out the halides which I am willing to bet Nascent will not do. You have to supply more iodine than the halides to push them out. I tried nascent for a few days and didn't feel any different. With Iodoral I take it and feel increased energy and mental clarity. I also sleep better. I'm sticking with what works for me. Because I am dealing with cancer and markers we are keeping down with Iodoral I am not willing to play around too much. nascent iodine> Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and> specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site> iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent> iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling> it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine.> Thanks,> Tor>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 The magnascent website says nothing about what's in their formula or how it's made. That strikes me as evasive, rather than honest. It's much more expensive per mg than lugols. Edgar cayce recommended this kind , and Brownstein sells another brand of the nascent-type iodine. I think it is mainly for people who don't tolerate lugols or for children and other sensitive types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Yes Dr Brownstein sells Detoxified Iodine (www.iodinesource.com) . My kids took that when they were smaller but now they are on Iodoral and doing fine. hire states that the iodine is "electrified". It is based on Edga Cyce's way of doing things. Steph Re: nascent iodine The magnascent website says nothing about what's in their formula or how it's made. That strikes me as evasive, rather than honest. It's much more expensive per mg than lugols. Edgar cayce recommended this kind , and Brownstein sells another brand of the nascent-type iodine. I think it is mainly for people who don't tolerate lugols or for children and other sensitive types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I have a basic question to the Listees. Can chronic subclinical hypothyroidism be resolved just by iodine, be it nascent or Potassium Iodide or Lugol's? I will think it should, because T3 is after all merely tyrosine surrounded by 3 atoms of iodine. Tyrosine I believe everybody gets in protein eaten as food, unless there are problems of intestinal dysbiosis like permeability (caused for example by gluten or caseine protein sensitivities/allergies), amoebiasis etc.. I can also accept that some more cofactors like Zinc may be needed because Zinc is needed to metabolize protein. Another question is what is the complete list of cofactors needed to make T3 from its precursors, in addition to Zinc, iodine and tyrosine? Thanks to anybody who replies.Ratan. --------Ratan SinghPhone: 91 141 2652561Address: 7- NA- 16Jawahar NagarJaipur- 302004 INDIA----------- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple University Medical School, Philadelphia, USA);- Hypnotist, Biofeedback and Meditation Therapist.- Family, Marital and Sex Therapist.->Consultant Nutritional & Clinical Psychologist in Jaipur Hospital, India.psych_58@..., www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.commeditationandcancer-subscribeegroups--- On Mon, 6/9/08, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: nascent iodineiodine Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 6:07 PM Yes Dr Brownstein sells Detoxified Iodine (www.iodinesource. com) . My kids took that when they were smaller but now they are on Iodoral and doing fine. hire states that the iodine is "electrified" . It is based on Edga Cyce's way of doing things. Steph Re: nascent iodine The magnascent website says nothing about what's in their formula or how it's made. That strikes me as evasive, rather than honest. It's much more expensive per mg than lugols. Edgar cayce recommended this kind , and Brownstein sells another brand of the nascent-type iodine. I think it is mainly for people who don't tolerate lugols or for children and other sensitive types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I started right out on 50 mgs. No working up for me. You may want to try the VCO (Virgin Coconut Oil) for that yeast infection. nascent iodine >> >> > Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for > general and >> > specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site >> > iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on > nascent >> > iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links > selling >> > it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine. >> > Thanks, >> > Tor >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Vitamin A is a needed nutrient for the thyroid. I am not sure if you can resolve subclinical hypoT with iodine. It all depends on why you have hypoT to begin with. It isn't that easy I believe. Steph Re: nascent iodine The magnascent website says nothing about what's in their formula or how it's made. That strikes me as evasive, rather than honest. It's much more expensive per mg than lugols. Edgar cayce recommended this kind , and Brownstein sells another brand of the nascent-type iodine. I think it is mainly for people who don't tolerate lugols or for children and other sensitive types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have come back from hypothyroidism using iodine. I used Iodoral. But as I got better and better, I could pinpoint exactly WHEN my symptoms would return: - everytime I ingested either MSG, Aspartame or processed food. This is not surprising as these directcly attack the pituitary which influences the thyroid gland. - and surprise, and this was harder to find out : everytime I came in contact with a person who was suffering from a low-grade infection. This is extremely frequent if you live in a town, fly in planes, take public transport etc. What is happening in this case is that these infections are repetitive, you never can develop immunity against them. Everytime you catch one, you are producing white cells, for which you need a lot of iodine. This exhausts your iodine supplies and diverts it from the thyroid I believe. I came to this conclusion only by meticulous observation of myself and of my husband. Now the GOOD thing is, these infections are extremely sensitive to iodine, in the NASCENT IODINE form. Every time I felt slightly strange (generally starts with a kind of brain fog, weakness, or sinus trouble, or low fever), I take 10 drops of Nascent iodine in water three times a day. This immediately stops the infection in its tracks, but I do go on for two days more to be sure. If it was felt in the sinuses and also every time after I fly, I also take 4 drops of Nascent iodine in salted (unchlorinated) water in the nostrils (neti). If I am travelling without a neti pot, I buy doses of salted " serum physiologique " (sorry I do not know the english for this : distilled water + salt). I cut the top off the little plastic bottle, drop 4 drops of Nascent iodine in it, squirt one half into one nostril keeping the head on the side to let it reach the sinus, other half in the other nostril. I could never stop these infections using Iodoral only. Nascent Iodine is needed for this. I do believe Iodoral is necessary too, because it reaches the gut. These infections travel down the gastro-intestinal tract and are at the source, not only of many cases of thyroid disease for the reasons stated above, but also of leaky gut/crohn's disease, and then autoimmune problems due to porosity of the gut. I am 56 years old and now completely back to feeling like I did before I started getting sick. I cannot but notice that I started getting sick just after the first Gulf War. Maybe we were not told everything about what happened then. I have been sick for more than 10 years. This recovery is due to Iodoral, Nascent iodine and Liver Flushes. All this ever more efficient if you do good pranayam, which ensures that the blood is alkaline as it should and you can benefit more from whatever you eat. I do not believe now that I can stay healthy if I do not have a bottle of Nascent iodine to help whenever I catch the dreaded bug again. These infections are more and more frequent every day. Since you cannot build an immunity this means you are more and more likely to be sick and wear down your thyroid. There is lots of hope! Best wishes, Kalliopi --- psych doc <psych_58@...> wrote: > I have a basic question to the Listees. Can chronic > subclinical hypothyroidism be resolved just by > iodine, be it nascent or Potassium Iodide or > Lugol's? > I will think it should, because T3 is after all > merely tyrosine surrounded by 3 atoms of iodine. > Tyrosine I believe everybody gets in protein eaten > as food, unless there are problems of intestinal > dysbiosis like permeability (caused for example by > gluten or caseine protein sensitivities/allergies), > amoebiasis etc.. > I can also accept that some more cofactors like Zinc > may be needed because Zinc is needed to metabolize > protein. > Another question is what is the complete list of > cofactors needed to make T3 from its precursors, in > addition to Zinc, iodine and tyrosine? > Thanks to anybody who replies. > Ratan. > -------- > Ratan Singh > Phone: 91 141 2652561 > Address: 7- NA- 16 > Jawahar Nagar > Jaipur- 302004 INDIA > ---------- > - Certificate in Food & amp; Nutrition; Diploma in > Nutrition and Health Education. > - Author of " Nutrition & amp; Supplements in Major > Mental Illnesses " ; > - M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical > & amp; Social Psychology, Ph.D.; > - Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. > Wolpe's Unit, Temple University Medical School, > Philadelphia, USA); > - Hypnotist, Biofeedback and Meditation Therapist. > - Family, Marital and Sex Therapist. > - & gt;Consultant Nutritional & amp; Clinical > Psychologist in Jaipur Hospital, India. > psych_58@..., > www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, > www.ejcbs.com > meditationandcancer-subscribeegroups > > > > From: ladybugsandbees > & lt;ladybugsandbees@... & gt; > Subject: Re: Re: nascent iodine > iodine > Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 6:07 PM > > > > > > > > Yes Dr Brownstein sells Detoxified Iodine > (www.iodinesource. com) & nbsp;. & nbsp; My kids took > that when they were smaller but now they are on > Iodoral and doing fine. & nbsp; hire states > that the iodine is " electrified " . & nbsp; It is based > on Edga Cyce's way of doing things. & nbsp; > & nbsp; > Steph > & nbsp; > & nbsp; > > Re: nascent iodine > > > The magnascent website says nothing about what's in > their formula or how it's made. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; > That strikes me as evasive, rather than > honest. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; It's much more expensive > per mg than lugols. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Edgar cayce > recommended this kind , and Brownstein sells another > brand of the nascent-type iodine. & nbsp; & nbsp; I > think it is mainly for people who don't tolerate > lugols or for children and other sensitive types. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 > Now the GOOD thing is, these infections are extremely > sensitive to iodine, in the NASCENT IODINE form. What is Nascent Iodine? I am using Lugol's. Thank you. Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Dorthy: I am new to the forum also. here is information on the product. Maybe this will answer some of your questions. Presently i am taking Lugo;s also and posted a question regarding other forms of Iodine supplements. I have begun taking 2 drops daily in orange or other fruit juice. http://www.magnascent.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I had originally had the same question as to which was better. It came down to, the people that lost their thryoids chosing Lugol's over the Nascent. I have both, but take the Lugol's. I felt that if I had any skin disorder - skin cancer type thing, I would put the Nascent right on the skin. I have not taken the Nascent in drops to see the difference... Thats the only comparison I came up with. > > Hi , > > hire sells Nascent iodine. I was hoping to find independent analysis. Also, why do most of you use Lugol's and Iodoral when Nascent is allegedly so much superior (better absorbability, more energized, etc.)? > > Tor > > > nascent iodine > > > Hello folks. I'm interested in using nascent iodine for general and > > specific health needs. I can find no info on it at the site > > iodine4health. This is curious. Does anyone have any info on nascent > > iodine, anecdotes, experience and links to data (not to links selling > > it)? Also, interested in comparisons to other forms of iodine. > > Thanks, > > Tor > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 ......... Also, why do most of you use Lugol's and > Iodoral when Nascent is allegedly so much superior (better > absorbability, more energized, etc.)? > > > > Tor I looked up the magnascent.com site but couldn't find anything on why it would be better than Lugol's. He says it is more pure, but I cannot imagine that whoever makes Lugol's would be using anything other than pharmaceutical grade components or that they would contain Mercury or other contaminants. It is apparently iodine only, not the combination of iodine and iodide which Drs Brownstein, Abraham et al feel is more universally usable by the body. As for the increased energy part, there is no further explanation of that. Maybe I missed something. Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 You are not mistaken Dorothy and that is what troubles me about nascent. It is a traditional usage item and really has not been studied. Lugol's was a formulation created by a Frenchman and has been studied and there is lots of information about it. I stick with Dr. A & Dr B on this one. Lugol's is a govt regulated substance since you need an rx for larger qtys - nascent is not. I would assume that if you bought non food grade iodine it could be full of toxins. > > I looked up the magnascent.com site but couldn't find anything on why > it would be better than Lugol's. He says it is more pure, but I cannot > imagine that whoever makes Lugol's would be using anything other than > pharmaceutical grade components or that they would contain Mercury or > other contaminants. It is apparently iodine only, not the combination > of iodine and iodide which Drs Brownstein, Abraham et al feel is more > universally usable by the body. As for the increased energy part, > there is no further explanation of that. Maybe I missed something. > > Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Dorothy... I don't have any info, except first hand. I bought a bottle of Magnascent iodine and used it for a couple of weeks. I didn't notice any real increase in energy and stamina. Then I got some detoxified iodine from iodinesource.com, after a few days of taking 6-8 drops 2-3 times a day -- the same amount that I was taking from the magnascent bottle, I noticed a definite increase in energy and stamina. I'm taking both the detoxified iodine and iodoral (100 mgs) in an attempt to build up my iodine levels. I still have the magnascent iodine, but I'm currently not using it. Lorie > > You are not mistaken Dorothy and that is what troubles me about nascent. It > is a traditional usage item and really has not been studied. Lugol's was a > formulation created by a Frenchman and has been studied and there is lots of > information about it. I stick with Dr. A & Dr B on this one. > > Lugol's is a govt regulated substance since you need an rx for larger qtys - > nascent is not. I would assume that if you bought non food grade iodine it > could be full of toxins. > > > > > > > > I looked up the magnascent.com site but couldn't find anything on why > > it would be better than Lugol's. He says it is more pure, but I cannot > > imagine that whoever makes Lugol's would be using anything other than > > pharmaceutical grade components or that they would contain Mercury or > > other contaminants. It is apparently iodine only, not the combination > > of iodine and iodide which Drs Brownstein, Abraham et al feel is more > > universally usable by the body. As for the increased energy part, > > there is no further explanation of that. Maybe I missed something. > > > > Dorothy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hi I am back from 2 weeks in Belgium and France visiting my son and new in-laws. Straight to the question is nascent iodine different than Lugols, and if so how? Nascent iodine is a scientific as well as medical term that has been around quite a long time. Iodine can exist as an atom although depending on the method of creation this nascent state is usually very short lived. Several patents for medical use of iodine created chemically exist Check the US Patent and Trademark office website for detail descriptions of why those compaines consider nascent iodine as the best anti-infection mode of iodine. They can create it chemically in a snap type bandage or with liquid and powder on a body surface. It is also used to prepare pacemakers and other devices to be inserted into the body. What has not existed since the time of Sunkar A. Bisey, who died in 1935, is a consummable form of nascent iodine. Edgar Cayce suggested to him the use of an intense electro magnestic field to seperate the molecule into atoms (not ions). It would improve his already good product according to Edgar Cayce. It was considered to costly and timeconsuming to manufacture, an easier method to make a much lesser poroduct, not in the nascent state was suggested the next day. Even today when Lugols and other products can be mixed up by the gallons at a time as long as care is taken for the right quantity, why would anyone take the effort and time to mix small quantities of iodine and then subject it to intense electromagnetic fields for lengthy periods of time? Someone would have to have a real good reason to take so much time and effort to put out such a product. My reason was that the mild or weak form of iodine, (not nascent) would not cure severe malaria for my friend in Africa. It was his greatest problem some 7 years ago. The mild Cayce formula helped but not for severe malaria as it did in the 1930's. See Schiefflein Druggist circullar for details from 1930's. The hard thing now for most doctors and students of iodine is to accept that there is some other form than iodine and iodide. Nascent is different and works different and they need to learn how to use it. It is easier to wait. The problem comes when they hear from patients or word of mouth and can't explain what they hear or see. I tried several years with CDC, WHO and various Malarai organization, Universities and so forth, to call this type of iodine and method of delivery to their attention. My success was no better with them than most iodine Docs. A few years ago I spoke with Dr. Abraham and have sent samples to him and Dr. Brownstein, but there has not been much response but I feel they will accept it when the evidence becomes overwhelming. It isn't at this point. Sorry that this response is so long but I was out of town. There is a difference and it would be inappropriate to try to say all of that here. Thanks very much for the forum on iodine it is a great place to meet.Thanks, hirejohn@...www.magnascent.com--- On Tue, 6/10/08, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: nascent iodineiodine Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 5:45 PM You are not mistaken Dorothy and that is what troubles me about nascent. It is a traditional usage item and really has not been studied. Lugol's was a formulation created by a Frenchman and has been studied and there is lots of information about it. I stick with Dr. A & Dr B on this one.Lugol's is a govt regulated substance since you need an rx for larger qtys - nascent is not. I would assume that if you bought non food grade iodine it could be full of toxins.>> I looked up the magnascent.com site but couldn't find anything on why> it would be better than Lugol's. He says it is more pure, but I cannot> imagine that whoever makes Lugol's would be using anything other than> pharmaceutical grade components or that they would contain Mercury or> other contaminants. It is apparently iodine only, not the combination> of iodine and iodide which Drs Brownstein, Abraham et al feel is more> universally usable by the body. As for the increased energy part,> there is no further explanation of that. Maybe I missed something.>> Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 So, :Does the nascent iodine formula contain any iodide?If not, why not?Thanks.-- April StreeterPrinting e-mails is usually a waste. Find more tips at TreeHugger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hi April Glad that you asked that question. Nascent iodine is iodine that has been put through an intense electro magnetic field. The result is an iodine that is very active as an atom rather than a molecule as in iodine or an ion as in iodide. All pratical experience seems to indicate that it is far more active in a small amount than a much larger iodide in the thyroid. Some have noted that they can feel it in their thyroid which doesn't happen with iodide. I hope that this is helpful. I am not sure if the nascent state can be achieved by using an iodide. Thanks, hirejohn@...www.magnascent.com--- On Wed, 6/11/08, April Streeter <april.streeter@...> wrote: From: April Streeter <april.streeter@...>Subject: RE: nascent iodineiodine Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:39 AM So, :Does the nascent iodine formula contain any iodide?If not, why not?Thanks.-- April StreeterPrinting e-mails is usually a waste. Find more tips at TreeHugger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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