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I must start with my brother Mark is one of if not the largest producer

of raw organic milk and colostrum in the US.

organicpastures.com

I believe that milk problems come from non organic, pasteurized,

homongenized, etc. store-bought milk and not raw organic milk.

There are organic colostrum tablets you can get at Whole Foods and

other health food stores and a goat colostrum that I think is great.

I think the fats, immune support, and myriad of other beneficial

elements in raw milk products are essential to healing. If it doesn't

work for you, that is fine. It may not be for everyone. Just make sure

it is raw AND organic.

You can google to find a source near you.

http://www.realmilk.com/

Glad you don't have metal in your mouth.

All my best to you and hope you find what works for you.

On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:50 AM, rticleone wrote:

> Hey , and Marc - thanks.

>

> No, I hadn't considered adrenal support - might be worth it,

> especially considering how stressed out I've felt at times. I admit,

> it's easier to stress yourself when you realize how stupid and

> unhealthy some of the things people embrace are, and that they can

> make things harder for...and then rage against the injustice of it

> all. Bad habit of mine.

>

> , I do like the idea of a strong system to begin with before a

> real cleansing attempt. I've shied away from trying colostrum,

> because I have trouble with dairy (except butter, or better, raw milk

> butter, which our wise government thinks should be illegal). What are

> your thoughts on dairy troubles and colostrum? I know there are mixed

> opinions on it.

>

> Fortunately, I have no metal fillings in my mouth (as far as I know,

> at least!) I have some " white fillings " , whatever they are...but I see

> no amalgam among my teeth. I may have had a couple or few when I was

> younger, a lot younger - I'm twenty six - but if I did, they're gone

> now. I'd have to ask my parents about that.

>

> Cheers,

>

> R.

>

>

>>>>

>>>>> 1) Alkalize myself with more alkaline forming foods

>>>>

>>>> That seems reasonable, although I wonder about what exactly

>>>> people mean when they say " alkalize themselves " , as there

>>>> are various parts of the body that are healthiest when they

>>>> are acidic -- the stomach and small intestines during

>>>> digestion are good examples.

>>>>

>>>>> 2) Do a short water fast

>>>>

>>>> I'd skip that step -- you've probably got too many toxins in

>>>> you already, and you should be taking things to bind to them

>>>> and support your body in dealing with them. A water fast

>>>> will just let them dump into your bloodstream and make

>>>> you feel terrible.

>>>>

>>>>> 3) Take a gut-healing formula

>>>>

>>>> Certainly people claim this is good, although the ones I

>>>> tried never made much difference.

>>>>

>>>>> 4) Take anti-candida supplements, be it Oil of Oregano, garlic,

>>>>> coconut, etc.

>>>>

>>>> I did badly on garlic and coconut -- you might want to add

>>>> probiotics and grapefruit seed extract to that list.

>>>>

>>>>> 7) Liver flush (a la Hulda 's Olive Oil, epsom salts, etc.)

>>>>

>>>> Ugh. That brings up some really unpleasant memories... :-(

>>>> I suppose some people are helped by this, but I gave up on

>>>> it before I noticed any improvements.

>>>>

>>>>> 9) While going after Lyme, try taking Modifilan (brown seaweed

>>>>> extract) and perhaps other toxin/bio-toxin/metal binding agents to

>>>>> help with possible die-off reaction

>>>>

>>>> And if you cannot tolerate modifilan, there are certainly

>>>> alternatives,

>>>> like activated charcoal, bentonite, apple pectin, etc.

>>>>

>>>> I'd say that you'd do metal detox all by itself, and not just an

>>>> adjunct to going after Lyme.

>>>>

>>>>> Throughout all this I'd be trying to eat well, take other general

>>>>> detoxing agents such as sprouted broccoli seed,

>>>>> burdock/dandelion/etc.

>>>>> tinctures, and so on.

>>>>

>>>> Good ideas, although I don't know how helpful it actually is. It

>>>> seems that people can eat really healthy and still stay ill...

>>>>

>>>> Marc

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------

>>>

>>>

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Hey - I agree with you about raw milk - I'm in Canada, where

it's a lot harder than even the States to get it. (I take it your

brother knows about the ordeal of Ontario farmer, Schmidt, who

got raided by armed officials for the criminal act of supplying

healthy, unpasteurized milk? Geeeeeze.)

I had the opportunity to be on a small farm for a couple of months

this summer, biodynamic, and we milked our own cow by hand - a

learning experience. The milk (though I still approached it

cautiously) was wonderful - it smelled sweet and reminded me of

blooming meadows - seriously, and pardon the flowery language. The

butter was so good it made conventional butter taste like frozen

candle wax, and the cream was practically orgasmic in its richness.

I think it's preposterous that these things are attacked - but we all

know the real reasons why they do it.

If I found raw milk colostrum I might be willing to try it.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 1) Alkalize myself with more alkaline forming foods

> >>>>

> >>>> That seems reasonable, although I wonder about what exactly

> >>>> people mean when they say " alkalize themselves " , as there

> >>>> are various parts of the body that are healthiest when they

> >>>> are acidic -- the stomach and small intestines during

> >>>> digestion are good examples.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 2) Do a short water fast

> >>>>

> >>>> I'd skip that step -- you've probably got too many toxins in

> >>>> you already, and you should be taking things to bind to them

> >>>> and support your body in dealing with them. A water fast

> >>>> will just let them dump into your bloodstream and make

> >>>> you feel terrible.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 3) Take a gut-healing formula

> >>>>

> >>>> Certainly people claim this is good, although the ones I

> >>>> tried never made much difference.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 4) Take anti-candida supplements, be it Oil of Oregano, garlic,

> >>>>> coconut, etc.

> >>>>

> >>>> I did badly on garlic and coconut -- you might want to add

> >>>> probiotics and grapefruit seed extract to that list.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 7) Liver flush (a la Hulda 's Olive Oil, epsom salts, etc.)

> >>>>

> >>>> Ugh. That brings up some really unpleasant memories... :-(

> >>>> I suppose some people are helped by this, but I gave up on

> >>>> it before I noticed any improvements.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 9) While going after Lyme, try taking Modifilan (brown seaweed

> >>>>> extract) and perhaps other toxin/bio-toxin/metal binding agents to

> >>>>> help with possible die-off reaction

> >>>>

> >>>> And if you cannot tolerate modifilan, there are certainly

> >>>> alternatives,

> >>>> like activated charcoal, bentonite, apple pectin, etc.

> >>>>

> >>>> I'd say that you'd do metal detox all by itself, and not just an

> >>>> adjunct to going after Lyme.

> >>>>

> >>>>> Throughout all this I'd be trying to eat well, take other general

> >>>>> detoxing agents such as sprouted broccoli seed,

> >>>>> burdock/dandelion/etc.

> >>>>> tinctures, and so on.

> >>>>

> >>>> Good ideas, although I don't know how helpful it actually is. It

> >>>> seems that people can eat really healthy and still stay ill...

> >>>>

> >>>> Marc

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>>

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I would agree. I am beginning to use raw milk whey, that I make

myself, to help raise my glutathione levels. I have been drinking

raw milk kefir for over a year and it has helped my health

tremendously. Even drinking the kefir probably helped raise my

gluathione levels, but my health was so poor several years ago that

my levels are still deficient. I believe that most traditional

cultures soured or fermented (curds and whey, yogurt, kefir, etc.)

their raw milk which makes it even more digestable and health

promoting.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 1) Alkalize myself with more alkaline forming foods

> >>>>

> >>>> That seems reasonable, although I wonder about what exactly

> >>>> people mean when they say " alkalize themselves " , as there

> >>>> are various parts of the body that are healthiest when they

> >>>> are acidic -- the stomach and small intestines during

> >>>> digestion are good examples.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 2) Do a short water fast

> >>>>

> >>>> I'd skip that step -- you've probably got too many toxins in

> >>>> you already, and you should be taking things to bind to them

> >>>> and support your body in dealing with them. A water fast

> >>>> will just let them dump into your bloodstream and make

> >>>> you feel terrible.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 3) Take a gut-healing formula

> >>>>

> >>>> Certainly people claim this is good, although the ones I

> >>>> tried never made much difference.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 4) Take anti-candida supplements, be it Oil of Oregano,

garlic,

> >>>>> coconut, etc.

> >>>>

> >>>> I did badly on garlic and coconut -- you might want to add

> >>>> probiotics and grapefruit seed extract to that list.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 7) Liver flush (a la Hulda 's Olive Oil, epsom salts,

etc.)

> >>>>

> >>>> Ugh. That brings up some really unpleasant memories... :-(

> >>>> I suppose some people are helped by this, but I gave up on

> >>>> it before I noticed any improvements.

> >>>>

> >>>>> 9) While going after Lyme, try taking Modifilan (brown seaweed

> >>>>> extract) and perhaps other toxin/bio-toxin/metal binding

agents to

> >>>>> help with possible die-off reaction

> >>>>

> >>>> And if you cannot tolerate modifilan, there are certainly

> >>>> alternatives,

> >>>> like activated charcoal, bentonite, apple pectin, etc.

> >>>>

> >>>> I'd say that you'd do metal detox all by itself, and not just

an

> >>>> adjunct to going after Lyme.

> >>>>

> >>>>> Throughout all this I'd be trying to eat well, take other

general

> >>>>> detoxing agents such as sprouted broccoli seed,

> >>>>> burdock/dandelion/etc.

> >>>>> tinctures, and so on.

> >>>>

> >>>> Good ideas, although I don't know how helpful it actually is.

It

> >>>> seems that people can eat really healthy and still stay ill...

> >>>>

> >>>> Marc

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>>

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