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Dear Yash,

I have not checked in for a while, so was delighted to see the

possability of a trial. I am trying to find an investor to do any kind

of trial on erythema nodosum which I have had for over 35 years. Could

you tell me how you found this investor and any tips on getting in

touch with people who can make something happen? I was advised to try

to find a researcher who had a grant to do related research. EN is

another autoimmune disorder and often presents with Crohn's and

sarcoidosis. LDN is being studied for Crohn's by dr. B, right?

Best reagards,

> Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is that

> the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their

> Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can take

> 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic

> about a pilot study at the very least.

>

> Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.

>

> Keep tuned.

>

> Yash

>

> P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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I ask my neuro to start his own study on naltrexone. He does MS

research at McGill university in Montreal,canada. He said that it

would be expensive because you'd need at least 500 patients and 2

MRI each which would come to about 500,000$. But he said the most

difficlut part is to find a way to study how and what exactly the

endorphins do.

I'm still trying to get him to see that naltrexone is good for us

with MS. Luckily I didn't have to wait for him to write me a

prescription.

> Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is

that

> the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their

> Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can

take

> 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic

> about a pilot study at the very least.

>

> Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.

>

> Keep tuned.

>

> Yash

>

> P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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Hi :

I guess you mean investigator as opposed to investor. The best

way to find an investigator (scientist) is to search the NIH

databases for scientists studying EN and then contact them. Another

way is took for publications on EN in the pubmed database. It helps

if you have a scientist or MD contact them, as then they would be

more amenable to listening!. Also Dr.B is not himself studying

Crohn's, but another doc named Jill .

Yash

> > Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is

that

> > the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their

> > Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can

take

> > 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic

> > about a pilot study at the very least.

> >

> > Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.

> >

> > Keep tuned.

> >

> > Yash

> >

> > P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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A simple way that every neuro can do is to put the patients on LDN

and see if they progress on the EDSS scale. That should cost next to

nothing.

Yash

> > Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is

> that

> > the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their

> > Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can

> take

> > 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic

> > about a pilot study at the very least.

> >

> > Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.

> >

> > Keep tuned.

> >

> > Yash

> >

> > P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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Yash,

Good work!! This is an excellent development.

Do you have any info about the protocol itself? I saw the

discussion about the various costs of doing a trial. A big

" if " is whether or not MRIs are included. Typically what

I have seen with the ABCR drugs is that there are 3 endpoints

for the trials: number of excascerbations, EDSS progression,

and MRI results. Two of those three can be monitored with

little to no cost, its only the MRI that costs big $$$.

Again, good work. I am still working avenues of my own and

I'll update you offline when I have more info.

Rob

> Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is

that

> the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their

> Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can

take

> 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic

> about a pilot study at the very least.

>

> Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.

>

> Keep tuned.

>

> Yash

>

> P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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That's a good idea. I'll mention it to him when I see him again.

I can't imagine he hasn't thought of it though.

> > > Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group

is

> > that

> > > the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to

their

> > > Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval

can

> > take

> > > 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very

optimistic

> > > about a pilot study at the very least.

> > >

> > > Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.

> > >

> > > Keep tuned.

> > >

> > > Yash

> > >

> > > P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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Pardon my ignorance, but what is an EDSS scale?

Tom from Edmonton

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From: Johanne F

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 4:25 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Towards a trial

That's a good idea. I'll mention it to him when I see him again.I can't imagine he hasn't thought of it though.> > > Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is > > that > > > the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their > > > Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can > > take > > > 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic > > > about a pilot study at the very least. > > > > > > Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.> > > > > > Keep tuned.> > > > > > Yash> > > > > > P.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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Keep up the good work. We all appreciate it.

Tom From Edmonton

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From: yashagrawal

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:02 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Towards a trial

Just a follow up. The recent feed back from the Italian group is that the principle investigator will submit the LDN protocol to their Chief for approval within a week or so. The Chief's approval can take 2-3 weeks. IF (BIG IF) it is approved, I would be very optimistic about a pilot study at the very least. Otherwise I will start all over again :-(.Keep tuned.YashP.S. Am trying to contact redtruck99, anyone heard from her ?.

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Huge thanks go to Yash for his support and advice on the survey, &

his great info he has shared with the groups. And to the LDN

community for taking the survey, & for all the advice on how to get

better with LDN. It has saved my life! This is just the first glimmer

of hope for an MS/LDN trial, we must keep at all fronts!

/redtruck99

> The Univ. of Texas Southwestern is planning a LDN trial. Thanks for

> this go to redtruck99.

>

> Yash

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