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This will pass in a few days just hang in there.Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "shellzwy" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:55:15 -0000< >Subject: Hi Hi everyone, I am new to this site and the HCG plan. I am on day 3 of my low calorie eating and I experienced fatigue and feeling of being nauseous and faint. Has anyoune else experienced this and if so what do you do about it? Thank you, Michele

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Hi Michele I too recently started 5th day of vcld. Up until yesterday I was so hungry I still feel weak and muscles are sore but st least the hunger is fading. Just keep your spirits up they say it gets better I sure hope so!!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 30, 2009, at 5:55 PM, "shellzwy" <shellzwy@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I am new to this site and the HCG plan. I am on day 3 of my low calorie eating and I experienced fatigue and feeling of being nauseous and faint. Has anyoune else experienced this and if so what do you do about it?

Thank you,

Michele

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My doc had me take iron supplement 325mg to help with this problem & it seemed to help. Good Luck

From: shereerivest@... <shereerivest@...>Subject: Re: Hi Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:07 PM

This is normal for some and it will pass, promise. I think potassium has been suggested... I'm sure someone else will chime in soon. Hang in there! You can do it. The first week is rough for some but then its easy sailing. Best wishes!--- Original Message ---From:"shellzwy" <shellzwy (DOT) com>Sent:Thu 7/30/09 7:56 pmTo:Subj: HiHi everyone, I am new to this site and the HCG plan. I am on day 3 of my low calorie eating and I experienced fatigue and feeling of being nauseous and faint. Has anyoune else experienced this and if so what do you do about it?Thank

you,Michele

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Take a vitamin B supplement ( or they do vit B shots ) and potassium

will also help :)

Hang in there! It is SO worth it!

On Jul 30, 2009, at 7:11 PM, pam wrote:

>

> My doc had me take iron supplement 325mg to help with this problem &

> it seemed to help. Good Luck

>

>

>

> From: shereerivest@... <shereerivest@...>

> Subject: Re: Hi

>

> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 7:07 PM

>

>

> This is normal for some and it will pass, promise. I think potassium

> has been suggested... I'm sure someone else will chime in soon. Hang

> in there! You can do it. The first week is rough for some but then

> its easy sailing. Best wishes!

>

> --- Original Message ---

> From: " shellzwy " <shellzwy (DOT) com>

> Sent:Thu 7/30/09 7:56 pm

> To:

> Subj: Hi

>

> Hi everyone, I am new to this site and the HCG plan. I am on day 3

> of my low calorie eating and I experienced fatigue and feeling of

> being nauseous and faint. Has anyoune else experienced this and if

> so what do you do about it?

> Thank you,

> Michele

>

>

>

>

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Yes, take three to six 99mg potassium tablets per day to rebalance those electrolytes. You can get them anywhere, even Wal-Mart.

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From: "shereerivest@..." <shereerivest@...> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:07:03 PMSubject: Re: Hi

This is normal for some and it will pass, promise. I think potassium has been suggested... I'm sure someone else will chime in soon. Hang in there! You can do it. The first week is rough for some but then its easy sailing. Best wishes!--- Original Message ---From:"shellzwy" <shellzwy (DOT) com>Sent:Thu 7/30/09 7:56 pmTo:Subj: HiHi everyone, I am new to this site and the HCG plan. I am on day 3 of my low calorie eating and I experienced fatigue and feeling of being nauseous and faint. Has anyoune else experienced this and if so what do you do about it?Thank you,Michele

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Hi, Pam - welcome!

Good luck with your move.

It can be very tricky finding a doctor who will take anyone else;s patient.

Ideally, this is something that should be investigated and arranged before any

move, in case you need urgent help when you have gotten to Ohio.

Be sure to try to find one with a comprehensive program, with nutritionists,

psychologists, exercise groups, education classes, etc. Success with the band

involves much more than simply surgery and a few fills occasionally. it's a

whole new lifestyle that involves every aspect of life.

Dr. Trace Curry in Cincinnati is the best around, but i know this isn't very

close to you. www.thebanddoctor.com/ Perhaps his office has a suggestion of a

closer doctor.

Glad you found us! When you can, take some time to go thru the files for all

the band-related teaching documents. Lots to learn and change, over time.

, and lots of preventative things to do to keep your band and stomach healthy.

Sandyr

>

> Hi,

> My name is Pam Lenhart, I live in Hurst Texas with my husband and 2

greyhounds.  We will be leaving here on Friday for our big move back to Canton

Ohio.

> I had lapband surgery in May, and as of today I haven't lost that much weight.

I have had 2 adjustment to date and the second one seems to be working. My dr

did the adjustments so close together because we are moving. Now all I have to

do is find a dr in Ohio that takes our insurance. Do you share receipes here?  I

look forward to reading posts and getting to know all of you.

> Pam

>

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Pam:

 

Congratulations on your move back to Ohio.  I live in Columbus, Ohio.  I was

banded by Dr. Myers at Riverside Hospital.  His practice is called Fresh Start

Bariatrics.  He also has an office in Mansfield, Ohio, which is not too far from

Canton.  He is a great doctor and has a great follow up program.  He has been in

the business for quite a while and has a large practice.  If you are interested

I will get you his website and phone number.

 

 

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Thanks, ! what a great example of " we're all in this together "

to help each other. Please feel free to post Dr. Myers's contact info here, for

anyone who wishes it.

Sandy r

In , Shrtnsweet8 <shrtnsweet8@...> wrote:

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> Pam:

>  

> Congratulations on your move back to Ohio.  I live in Columbus, Ohio.  I was

banded by Dr. Myers at Riverside Hospital.  His practice is called Fresh Start

Bariatrics.  He also has an office in Mansfield, Ohio, which is not too far from

Canton.  He is a great doctor and has a great follow up program.  He has been in

the business for quite a while and has a large practice.  If you are interested

I will get you his website and phone number.

>  

>

>  

>

>

>

>

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That sounds great!  I will call him as soon as we get there.  I have GPS and I'm

not afraid to drive anywhere now!  My husband got it for me for Christmas so he

wouldn't have to take off work when I had appoints that weren't local.

Pam

From: Shrtnsweet8 <shrtnsweet8@...>

Subject: Re: Hi

smarterbandsters ,

Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 11:16 AM

 

Pam:

 

Congratulations on your move back to Ohio.  I live in Columbus, Ohio..  I was

banded by Dr. Myers at Riverside Hospital.  His practice is called Fresh Start

Bariatrics.  He also has an office in Mansfield, Ohio, which is not too far from

Canton.  He is a great doctor and has a great follow up program.  He has been in

the business for quite a while and has a large practice.  If you are interested

I will get you his website and phone number.

 

 

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Here is the information for Dr. Myers.

 

His website is Freshstartbariatrics.com.

The number for the Mansfield, Ohio office is 419-756-0775

The number for the Columbus, Ohio office is 614-566-3946.

 

They have a Facebook page and Twitter as well, but I am sure the information

above will get you what you need.  They have a very comprehensive program, very

active support groups, great staff, financing, etc.  I have been very pleased. 

He is a very kind, caring doctor who seems genuinely interested in his patients

and their progress and health.  He does bypass, bands and sleeves.   I also

liked that he asked if it would be okay if we said a prayer prior to

surgery.  That simple prayer calmed me right down.

 

Let me know if you need anything else when you move to Ohio.  Canton is not that

far from Columbus.

 

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HI Kim, As I am in the UK and a free healthcare system I am so sorry to hear

that you have to wait for surgery due to medical insurance issues. WE were

there recently with friends and Nath got sick with his ear and needed medical

assistance and my heart filled with dread to wonder how I would cope if I lived

there without help.

Good luck with the employment situation. I really hope you can get it fixed

soon!

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She has had all canal wall up procedures. The last one was to be canal

wall down, but when he went in, he did not feel that he would get

better access to where the ctoma was by doing the more radical

surgery. It also looks very good right now. He said last week she

looks the best he's ever seen. He has been trying to avoid the canal

wall down because of her age. He wanted to preserve as much original

structure as possible. I know some other posters are happy with their

decisions to do the CWD, so I guess it depends on the child, where the

ctoma is, and what your surgeon is recommending.

Chloe did have more large surgeries than usual, but some of those were

due to an infection in the mastoid that went into the bone and also

caused rapid regrowth. Her ctoma has also been crazily aggressive.

In my experience, it's pretty much expected that if you do a CWU,

there will be a follow up surgery six months later. Also, I have found

that older doctors seem to go more quickly to CWD, as do doctors that

mostly see adults, whereas, our experience has mostly been with

pediatric specialists who trend toward the more conservative approach

of trying to preserve structure and function.

So, I guess you just have to make the best decision you can. Either

way, there are some things to consider, and you just have to make a

decision that works for your family. Have you talked with Joe about

what he wants to do? We had Chloe's first surgery just before she

turned two, but she has always been involved in the discussion as much

as she was able. Now, the surgeon talks as much to her as he does to

me. She has had some interesting opinions!

On 2/10/10, Donna McFadden <donna.mcfadden12@...> wrote:

> Hi

> Did Chloe have canal wall down surgery? I've read your posts because they

> are always so informative & unfortunately for you, you have become an

> expert. But I can't remember what type of surgeries Chloe has had.

> Joe's (6yo) ctoma grew back within 6 months & it seems to be worse.

> I'm seeing a new surgeon tomorrow who wants to try canal wall up again, but

> I'm thinking that it will just regrow quickly again.

> I spoke to a highly qualified surgeon(Prof) here & he feels the same &

> suggests the only option is canal wall down.

> He has to be able to swim though

>

>  ThanksDonna

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: s <thequeen.christine@...>

> cholesteatoma

> Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 11:53:55 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Its been 9 months since my surgery... Have

> some questions?

>

>

> I have been told children have faster ctoma growth, but chloe's has

> grown back several times in the six months between surgery, and once

> when she had a terrible infection, it grew back five weeks after

> surgery. That was extremely uncommon, though, and the whole team came

> out looking shocked. I wouldn't panic, but I would pursue it. Do you

> have a plan for a second look, or at least a CT?

>

> On 2/8/10, Xa <soderstroms> wrote:

>> REgarding ear drum hole: I had 2 surgeries on right ear for ctoma. After

>> the

>> 2nd, the ear drum graft just wouldn't stay because of the negative

>> pressure

>> in the ear, I didn't have ctoma reoccurring. so my surgeon went back in

>> and

>> gave me a cartilage ear drum because that wouldn't pop a hole. So it

>> doesn't

>> HAVE to mean it's ctoma again. But it should definitely be checked out.

>>

>> The pain/ache at the mastoid bone, i think is normal post op. I've noticed

>> different pains after each surgery (ive had 5), but I think it's just the

>> body healing. after my first surgery, eating hot foods gave me a shooting

>> pain from my mouth into my ear. After awhile that went away. After my 3rd

>> and 4th surgeries, wearing headphones hurt my head (mastoid areas), that

>> went away.

>>

>> So, it'll probably just take some time before the pain subsides.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Â

>>> >I had a Tympanoplasty and Mastoidectomy about 9 months ago... My

>>> > cholesteatoma wasnt in just one place, My ENT found it spread all over

>>> > the place, he said he has never seen it like that before... Sometimes I

>>> > get a dull ache where the mastiod is and around that area... It doesnt

>>> > so much hurt but just gets annoying from time to time... Does this seem

>>> > normal? I go back to the ENT this week, I know when I went back in

>>> > sept,

>>> > he seen a small hole in my newly repaired ear drum... I am just worried

>>> > that the Cholesteatoma is growing back, he said to expect it to cause

>>> > of

>>> > the places they found it in, but would it be this soon?

>>> >

>>> >

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>>

>>

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Thanks ,

Your comments fit so perfectly with what we are thinking & have experienced.

The older surgeon said the only option is CWD, but the younger guy (can't believe I'm saying a 50 yo is young!!) has said exactly what you did.

I must admit though that we haven't gone into too much detail with Joe about what the types of surgery are & what the ramifications could be. We will have to think/ discuss that idea, I suppose he has a right to know & have a say in the decision. My concern would be he would become scared & worry too much. His only concern is to get back to the beach ASAP.

We are very confident we have the best surgeon available. He is going to attempt a canal wall up, but will be guided by what he finds.

Thank you so much for the reasurrance. It's so difficult when it's your child, but like you we are doing the best we can!

Thanks againDonna

From: s <thequeen.christine@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Sat, 13 February, 2010 11:19:30 PMSubject: Re: Hi

She has had all canal wall up procedures. The last one was to be canalwall down, but when he went in, he did not feel that he would getbetter access to where the ctoma was by doing the more radicalsurgery. It also looks very good right now. He said last week shelooks the best he's ever seen. He has been trying to avoid the canalwall down because of her age. He wanted to preserve as much originalstructure as possible. I know some other posters are happy with theirdecisions to do the CWD, so I guess it depends on the child, where thectoma is, and what your surgeon is recommending.Chloe did have more large surgeries than usual, but some of those weredue to an infection in the mastoid that went into the bone and alsocaused rapid regrowth. Her ctoma has also been crazily aggressive.In my experience, it's pretty much expected that if you do a CWU,there will be a follow up surgery six months later.

Also, I have foundthat older doctors seem to go more quickly to CWD, as do doctors thatmostly see adults, whereas, our experience has mostly been withpediatric specialists who trend toward the more conservative approachof trying to preserve structure and function.So, I guess you just have to make the best decision you can. Eitherway, there are some things to consider, and you just have to make adecision that works for your family. Have you talked with Joe aboutwhat he wants to do? We had Chloe's first surgery just before sheturned two, but she has always been involved in the discussion as muchas she was able. Now, the surgeon talks as much to her as he does tome. She has had some interesting opinions!On 2/10/10, Donna McFadden <donna.mcfadden12> wrote:>

Hi > Did Chloe have canal wall down surgery? I've read your posts because they> are always so informative & unfortunately for you, you have become an> expert. But I can't remember what type of surgeries Chloe has had.> Joe's (6yo) ctoma grew back within 6 months & it seems to be worse.> I'm seeing a new surgeon tomorrow who wants to try canal wall up again, but> I'm thinking that it will just regrow quickly again.> I spoke to a highly qualified surgeon(Prof) here & he feels the same & > suggests the only option is canal wall down.> He has to be able to swim though>> ThanksDonna>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> From: s <thequeen.christine@

gmail.com>> cholesteatoma> Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 11:53:55 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Its been 9 months since my surgery... Have> some questions?>>> I have been told children have faster ctoma growth, but chloe's has> grown back several times in the six months between surgery, and once> when she had a terrible infection, it grew back five weeks after> surgery. That was extremely uncommon, though, and the whole team came> out looking shocked. I wouldn't panic, but I would pursue it. Do you> have a plan for a second look, or at least a CT?>> On 2/8/10, Xa <soderstroms> wrote:>> REgarding ear drum hole: I had 2 surgeries on right ear for ctoma. After>>

the>> 2nd, the ear drum graft just wouldn't stay because of the negative>> pressure>> in the ear, I didn't have ctoma reoccurring. so my surgeon went back in>> and>> gave me a cartilage ear drum because that wouldn't pop a hole. So it>> doesn't>> HAVE to mean it's ctoma again. But it should definitely be checked out.>>>> The pain/ache at the mastoid bone, i think is normal post op. I've noticed>> different pains after each surgery (ive had 5), but I think it's just the>> body healing. after my first surgery, eating hot foods gave me a shooting>> pain from my mouth into my ear. After awhile that went away. After my 3rd>> and 4th surgeries, wearing headphones hurt my head (mastoid areas), that>> went away.>>>> So, it'll probably just take some time before the pain

subsides.>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Â>>> >I had a Tympanoplasty and Mastoidectomy about 9 months ago... My>>> > cholesteatoma wasnt in just one place, My ENT found it spread all over>>> > the place, he said he has never

seen it like that before... Sometimes I>>> > get a dull ache where the mastiod is and around that area... It doesnt>>> > so much hurt but just gets annoying from time to time... Does this seem>>> > normal? I go back to the ENT this week, I know when I went back in>>> > sept,>>> > he seen a small hole in my newly repaired ear drum... I am just worried>>> > that the Cholesteatoma is growing back, he said to expect it to cause>>> > of>>> > the places they found it in, but would it be this soon?>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>

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I can honestly say that we have carefully prepared her for every

surgery, explained exactly what she could expect, and what the reasons

were for doing it, and she has been amazing. She climbs up on the

table, and just goes to sleep. She is very comfortable with every

step, and there are usually few surprises. One thing we've heard many

times from the staff is they can't believe how comfortable she is. She

will even go to adults we know who may be going for surgery and give

them some pointers. She has become a great scammer for knowing how to

get the staff and childlife specialist to slip her extra popsicles,

etc... (OK, maybe I fall for it too, sometimes!) I am sure that every

child is different, but it seems like the unknown is often much

scarier than the known. Hopefully, all will go well for him!

On 2/13/10, Donna McFadden <donna.mcfadden12@...> wrote:

> Thanks ,

>

> Your comments fit so perfectly with what we are thinking & have experienced.

> The older surgeon said the only option is CWD, but the younger guy (can't

> believe I'm saying a 50 yo is young!!) has said exactly what you did.

>

> I must admit though that we haven't gone into too much detail with Joe about

> what the types of surgery are & what the ramifications could be. We will

> have to think/ discuss that idea, I suppose he has a right to know & have a

> say in the decision. My concern would be he would become scared & worry too

> much. His only concern is to get back to the beach ASAP.

>

> We are very confident we have the best surgeon available. He is going to

> attempt a canal wall up, but will be guided by what he finds.

>

> Thank you so much for the reasurrance. It's so difficult when it's your

> child, but like you we are doing the best we can!

>

> Thanks againDonna

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: s <thequeen.christine@...>

> cholesteatoma

> Sent: Sat, 13 February, 2010 11:19:30 PM

> Subject: Re: Hi

>

>

> She has had all canal wall up procedures. The last one was to be canal

> wall down, but when he went in, he did not feel that he would get

> better access to where the ctoma was by doing the more radical

> surgery. It also looks very good right now. He said last week she

> looks the best he's ever seen. He has been trying to avoid the canal

> wall down because of her age. He wanted to preserve as much original

> structure as possible. I know some other posters are happy with their

> decisions to do the CWD, so I guess it depends on the child, where the

> ctoma is, and what your surgeon is recommending.

>

> Chloe did have more large surgeries than usual, but some of those were

> due to an infection in the mastoid that went into the bone and also

> caused rapid regrowth. Her ctoma has also been crazily aggressive.

>

> In my experience, it's pretty much expected that if you do a CWU,

> there will be a follow up surgery six months later. Also, I have found

> that older doctors seem to go more quickly to CWD, as do doctors that

> mostly see adults, whereas, our experience has mostly been with

> pediatric specialists who trend toward the more conservative approach

> of trying to preserve structure and function.

>

> So, I guess you just have to make the best decision you can. Either

> way, there are some things to consider, and you just have to make a

> decision that works for your family. Have you talked with Joe about

> what he wants to do? We had Chloe's first surgery just before she

> turned two, but she has always been involved in the discussion as much

> as she was able. Now, the surgeon talks as much to her as he does to

> me. She has had some interesting opinions!

>

> On 2/10/10, Donna McFadden <donna.mcfadden12> wrote:

>> Hi

>> Did Chloe have canal wall down surgery? I've read your posts because they

>> are always so informative & unfortunately for you, you have become an

>> expert. But I can't remember what type of surgeries Chloe has had.

>> Joe's (6yo) ctoma grew back within 6 months & it seems to be worse.

>> I'm seeing a new surgeon tomorrow who wants to try canal wall up again,

>> but

>> I'm thinking that it will just regrow quickly again.

>> I spoke to a highly qualified surgeon(Prof) here & he feels the same &

>> suggests the only option is canal wall down.

>> He has to be able to swim though

>>

>>  ThanksDonna

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ____________ _________ _________ __

>> From: s <thequeen.christine@ gmail.com>

>> cholesteatoma

>> Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 11:53:55 PM

>> Subject: Re: Re: Its been 9 months since my surgery...

>> Have

>> some questions?

>>

>>

>> I have been told children have faster ctoma growth, but chloe's has

>> grown back several times in the six months between surgery, and once

>> when she had a terrible infection, it grew back five weeks after

>> surgery. That was extremely uncommon, though, and the whole team came

>> out looking shocked. I wouldn't panic, but I would pursue it. Do you

>> have a plan for a second look, or at least a CT?

>>

>> On 2/8/10, Xa <soderstroms> wrote:

>>> REgarding ear drum hole: I had 2 surgeries on right ear for ctoma. After

>>> the

>>> 2nd, the ear drum graft just wouldn't stay because of the negative

>>> pressure

>>> in the ear, I didn't have ctoma reoccurring. so my surgeon went back in

>>> and

>>> gave me a cartilage ear drum because that wouldn't pop a hole. So it

>>> doesn't

>>> HAVE to mean it's ctoma again. But it should definitely be checked out.

>>>

>>> The pain/ache at the mastoid bone, i think is normal post op. I've

>>> noticed

>>> different pains after each surgery (ive had 5), but I think it's just the

>>> body healing. after my first surgery, eating hot foods gave me a shooting

>>> pain from my mouth into my ear. After awhile that went away. After my 3rd

>>> and 4th surgeries, wearing headphones hurt my head (mastoid areas), that

>>> went away.

>>>

>>> So, it'll probably just take some time before the pain subsides.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Â

>>>> >I had a Tympanoplasty and Mastoidectomy about 9 months ago... My

>>>> > cholesteatoma wasnt in just one place, My ENT found it spread all over

>>>> > the place, he said he has never seen it like that before... Sometimes

>>>> > I

>>>> > get a dull ache where the mastiod is and around that area... It doesnt

>>>> > so much hurt but just gets annoying from time to time... Does this

>>>> > seem

>>>> > normal? I go back to the ENT this week, I know when I went back in

>>>> > sept,

>>>> > he seen a small hole in my newly repaired ear drum... I am just

>>>> > worried

>>>> > that the Cholesteatoma is growing back, he said to expect it to cause

>>>> > of

>>>> > the places they found it in, but would it be this soon?

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>>>

>>>

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" per cent ' means:

- for each one hundred, for each 100

- over one-hundred or over 100

- divided by 100

Example: For every one hundred people in a given location there are 45 women.

Therefore we can express that in percentage.

45 women/100 people

Then we must multiply this by 100 (to answer your question " Yes " ) and add the %

sign for the units:

45/100 x 100 = 45 %

By deduction we can subtract the 45% from the 100% and we have the total of the

two is percentage:

100%- 45% = 55%

Since there are only two possibilities of two sexes we can subtract

to get the percentage of men. 55% men.

Percentage tutorials are also found in the S-8 Math Only Tutorials.

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> so everything you do the % you always multiply by 100

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Hi Sharon, You came to the right place. The leg lifts are a good idea.

Remember to tighten the muscles around the knee as you do them. The stronger

you are, the better it will be. You are a survivor. Hang in there.

All the best, Joan

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From: sharonkl.geo <levine@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 5:23:52 PM

Subject: hi

I'm Sharon new here I think I'm going to have knee replacements in Dec I still

have intake to do in Nov to get all my drs to sign off.

I had a second round of breast cancer 3 years ago and still under care for that

so it will be up to that dr and heart dr to give me a go ahead. I have been on

steroids injects for over 5 years to help with my bone on bone knee. This dr I

just saw said he didn't even know how I was doing any walking and wanted to do

the surgery in Nov. My daughter lost a set of twins at almost 5 months 5 months

ago and she is going back to do IVF in Nov so she couldn't be here and wouldn't

be fair to her to put her under that stress. I'm looking for what I can do now

to get prepared the dr said to just do leg lifts hold my leg up about 6 inches

off the floor. Just looking for support now that it might happen.

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thank you I must be out of shape how to you tight your muscles around the knee?

Sharon LeVine

hi

I'm Sharon new here I think I'm going to have knee replacements in Dec I still

have intake to do in Nov to get all my drs to sign off.

I had a second round of breast cancer 3 years ago and still under care for

that

so it will be up to that dr and heart dr to give me a go ahead. I have been on

steroids injects for over 5 years to help with my bone on bone knee. This dr I

just saw said he didn't even know how I was doing any walking and wanted to do

the surgery in Nov. My daughter lost a set of twins at almost 5 months 5

months

ago and she is going back to do IVF in Nov so she couldn't be here and

wouldn't

be fair to her to put her under that stress. I'm looking for what I can do now

to get prepared the dr said to just do leg lifts hold my leg up about 6 inches

off the floor. Just looking for support now that it might happen.

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Thanks yes it was hard on us cause we just lost my mom in Oct been a bad

year we were told my daughter might now make it either she got ecoli that turned

to blood poison she was very sick. She delivered the babies in icu she was to

sick to leave.

I hope I can do the knees I hear so much that there is such pain you want to

die. I'm also heavy so I know it's will even be harder on me. I have lymphedema

in my arms chest belly and left leg so I'm limited in what I can do thanks to

the breast cancer. But I also want to walk in the park as you said with my grand

children.

Sharon LeVine

hi

I'm Sharon new here I think I'm going to have knee replacements in Dec I

still have intake to do in Nov to get all my drs to sign off.

I had a second round of breast cancer 3 years ago and still under care for

that so it will be up to that dr and heart dr to give me a go ahead. I have

been on steroids injects for over 5 years to help with my bone on bone knee.

This dr I just saw said he didn't even know how I was doing any walking and

wanted to do the surgery in Nov. My daughter lost a set of twins at almost 5

months 5 months ago and she is going back to do IVF in Nov so she couldn't

be here and wouldn't be fair to her to put her under that stress. I'm

looking for what I can do now to get prepared the dr said to just do leg

lifts hold my leg up about 6 inches off the floor. Just looking for support

now that it might happen.

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What a lot you¹ve been through, and are going through, a lot, Sharon. So

sorry to hear this. Sending good thoughts for you daughter.

While everyone¹s experience is different, my experience of pain was that

there was very strong pain while doing exercises especially in the early

month to 6 weeks. It was intense and excruciating during the exercise but

of short duration. I had pain at night but not nearly so bad. It was never

as bad as you describe. I was really disciplined about taking my medication

on schedule and then before physical therapy. My sister made a schedule for

me so I could track that and not let the pain get ahead of me. Stopping the

medication came naturally when I no longer needed it.

I¹m doing so much now ‹ hauling drums, walking dogs, working to get my

garden into shape ‹ things that I couldn¹t do before the TKRs or did only

with great difficulty and pain.

Sending you and your family best wishes.

Peace,

Jackie

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On 10/13/10 4:49 PM, " Sharon LeVine " <levine@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks yes it was hard on us cause we just lost my mom in Oct been a bad

> year we were told my daughter might now make it either she got ecoli that

> turned to blood poison she was very sick. She delivered the babies in icu she

> was to sick to leave.

> I hope I can do the knees I hear so much that there is such pain you want to

> die. I'm also heavy so I know it's will even be harder on me. I have

> lymphedema in my arms chest belly and left leg so I'm limited in what I can do

> thanks to the breast cancer. But I also want to walk in the park as you said

> with my grand children.

>

> Sharon LeVine

> hi

>

> I'm Sharon new here I think I'm going to have knee replacements in Dec I

> still have intake to do in Nov to get all my drs to sign off.

> I had a second round of breast cancer 3 years ago and still under care for

> that so it will be up to that dr and heart dr to give me a go ahead. I have

> been on steroids injects for over 5 years to help with my bone on bone knee.

> This dr I just saw said he didn't even know how I was doing any walking and

> wanted to do the surgery in Nov. My daughter lost a set of twins at almost 5

> months 5 months ago and she is going back to do IVF in Nov so she couldn't

> be here and wouldn't be fair to her to put her under that stress. I'm

> looking for what I can do now to get prepared the dr said to just do leg

> lifts hold my leg up about 6 inches off the floor. Just looking for support

> now that it might happen.

>

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So sorry to hear about all your troubles. Let's just hope those are now behind

you and focus on getting you moving towards that better day. I am living proof

that you can get better with age :) Five years ago I could only walk with

crutches because of an ankle that had disintegrated 20 years after an accident.

That was fused in 2005 and healed beautifully. Then this year my right knee

totally gave out on me and I was back on crutches again. Total knee replacement

in May and I am doing wonderfully. Yesterday I hiked 3 km over uneven ground out

to a waterfall and back. A year ago I never would have dreamed of such a thing.

So that is why I KNOW that we can get much better. And just for the record I am

59 years old and quite overweight. (Just so you don't think I'm 30 and stick

thin :)

If you are willing to do the work, you WILL take those grandchildren your

daughter is working so hard to give you, to the park for a walk.

So ....you need to get your muscles in as good a shape as possible before the

surgery. You can do much more than just " leg lifts " . There is a book that was

highly recommended to me and became my bible. It is called Heal Your Knees by

Klapper, MD and Lynda Huey. I ordered it from Amazon.

This book will fully explain what is going wrong in your knees and what you can

do to get your knees ready for surgery. Then AFTER surgery what you can do to

get yourself moving and pain free.

The most important recommendation I believe was that I get in the pool and do my

exercises in the pool. Particularly when we are quite overweight, the water

makes all the difference in the world. I could do strengthening and flexibility

movements in the pool that I could NEVER do on land. The book lists all the

things to do in the water.

After surgery I also discovered that there was a physiotherapist working in the

office I was going to for physio who also did pool sessions so I started doing

one session a week with her in the pool. I found that after a session with her

in the pool I had made a LOT of progress each week, vs not nearly as much on

land. So I am a BIG booster of pool exercising, especially for overweight people

like me.

As to the pain. Yes. It is difficult. I will not lie. I found it more difficult

than the ankle fusion I went through 5 years ago. I think it is because with

other kinds of surgeries the operated on area is immobilied in a cast or a boot.

So it does not move and when it is not moving it does not hurt after the first

while. But of course, with the knee, you will be up and walking on day one.

This is great in the sense that you don't need constant nursing care. You can

" get it yourself " . And in fact, it is good to have reasons to get up and keep

moving. That is physio in itself. What I found was that it did not actually hurt

to walk on my new knee. What ached were the muscles around the knee. They don't

actually cut through these muscles so you don't need to worry about them

detaching or anything. But when they push them aside it really must traumatize

them because they tighten up and get stiff. YOu have to work those muscles and

that makes them ache.

But whatever it is that hurts for you ...just remember that it will go away with

time. And you are in pain now already! That pain is never going to get better,

just worse. If the cause is not addressed. And no, it will not kill you :) You,

of all people have learned how to handle pain already. You know that we can live

through whatever we MUST live through.

You will be given strong medications to take. Take them. There are no awards for

being tough and in fact, pain inhibits healing and it makes us fearful of

moving. So take the meds you've been given. The downside of those is

constipation which make us nauseous and sickly. So get a couple of big bottles

of prune juice put into the fridge and take a BIG glass every morning and every

night. This should take care of constipation. But just in case, ask the

pharmacist for a stool softener to keep in the cupboard in case you need it. A

generic brand is only a few dollars so good insurance.

Ice is your friend. I found it a better painkiller than the pills to tell the

truth. I had two big icepaks that I kept in the freezer. I cut a t-towel in half

and sewed each half into a pocket for the icepak with a piece of velcro to hold

it closed. This keeps the ice pak from direct contact with the skin and for me,

post surgery the t-towel was just the right amount of thickness.

I also found after a few weeks that the pain that woke me was often because my

knee had gotten stiff lying in one position (the painkillers REALLY help you

sleep without moving). When I got up and moved around a bit the knee felt

better. At first I thought it felt better because I got up and took a pill. But

after a while I realized that the pill was not kicking in that fast :) It was

the movement that freed up the knee and took the pain away.

So once the first 2-3 weeks had gone by and I was past the worst of the pain I

started easing back on my use of the heavy pain killers and relying much more on

ice, massage and gentle movement and stretching to take the pain away.

I hope this helps. Between the ankle fusion and the knee replacement I have been

through two of the most diffiucult ortho surgeries and I am living proof that

they are worth it and that a pain free life on your feet is on the other side.

But you will need to work at getting that movement. It's so worth it.

Carolyn

>

> Thanks yes it was hard on us cause we just lost my mom in Oct been a bad

year we were told my daughter might now make it either she got ecoli that turned

to blood poison she was very sick. She delivered the babies in icu she was to

sick to leave.

> I hope I can do the knees I hear so much that there is such pain you want to

die. I'm also heavy so I know it's will even be harder on me. I have lymphedema

in my arms chest belly and left leg so I'm limited in what I can do thanks to

the breast cancer. But I also want to walk in the park as you said with my grand

children.

>

> Sharon LeVine

> hi

>

> I'm Sharon new here I think I'm going to have knee replacements in Dec I

> still have intake to do in Nov to get all my drs to sign off.

> I had a second round of breast cancer 3 years ago and still under care for

> that so it will be up to that dr and heart dr to give me a go ahead. I have

> been on steroids injects for over 5 years to help with my bone on bone knee.

> This dr I just saw said he didn't even know how I was doing any walking and

> wanted to do the surgery in Nov. My daughter lost a set of twins at almost 5

> months 5 months ago and she is going back to do IVF in Nov so she couldn't

> be here and wouldn't be fair to her to put her under that stress. I'm

> looking for what I can do now to get prepared the dr said to just do leg

> lifts hold my leg up about 6 inches off the floor. Just looking for support

> now that it might happen.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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4 days post op now from left TKR.  The swelling and pain are worse today, but i

am coping with lots of ice and pain meds every 3 hours.  My main concern is that

i am unable to do a straight leg lift on the operative side.  I cannot get it up

at all.  I have horrendous pain under my knee cap every time i try.  The PT said

it will come and not to push it at this point.  I have overall knee pain from

swelling and the surgery, but my knee cap pain is the worst, even with walking. 

I am hoping as the swelling goes down, so will the knee cap pain.  In the past,

with my regular knee scopes, this has always been my problem........excessive

swelling and sharp, unbearable knee cap pain.  I am so afraid that this is going

to take a long time to resolve.  Has anybody else experienced this?

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,

You have spoke of icing. My PT always talked about elevating and my knee had to

be higher than my heart. I hope you are elevating.

I couldn't lift my leg either and my PT said I would be able to as he helped me

lift it. And it only took once or twice of him lifting it and I could do it.

Hope this helps.

Donna R

Re: Re: hi

4 days post op now from left TKR.� The swelling and pain are worse today, but

i

am coping with lots of ice and pain meds every 3 hours.� My main concern is

that

i am unable to do a straight leg lift on the operative side.� I cannot get it

up

at all.� I have horrendous pain under my knee cap every time i try.� The PT

said

it will come and not to push it at this point.� I have overall knee pain from

swelling and the surgery, but my knee cap pain is the worst, even with

walking.�

I am hoping as the swelling goes down, so will the knee cap pain.� In the

past,

with my regular knee scopes, this has always been my problem........excessive

swelling and sharp, unbearable knee cap pain.� I am so afraid that this is

going

to take a long time to resolve.� Has anybody else experienced this?

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,

This sounds like my experience. I tried to lift my leg, and it just wouldn't

move. Be patient. My home PT said it takes time for the message to get down

the severed nerves. And, the back of my knee was so sore, I couldn't bear for

anyone to even touch it! The back of my knee was BLACK for at least a month.

The swelling of my knee really hindered a lot of the therapy. After 4weeks of

home therapy three times a week, I could only bend my leg 70 degrees! I was

bummed. But, after my out patient therapy, I am at a good 130, so just take

your pain meds, do what you can, and REST. It will come, my friend.

God bless, Bonnie in Maine

>

> 4 days post op now from left TKR.  The swelling and pain are worse today, but

i

> am coping with lots of ice and pain meds every 3 hours.  My main concern is

that

> i am unable to do a straight leg lift on the operative side.  I cannot get it

up

> at all.  I have horrendous pain under my knee cap every time i try.  The PT

said

> it will come and not to push it at this point.  I have overall knee pain from

> swelling and the surgery, but my knee cap pain is the worst, even with

walking. 

> I am hoping as the swelling goes down, so will the knee cap pain.  In the

past,

> with my regular knee scopes, this has always been my problem........excessive

> swelling and sharp, unbearable knee cap pain.  I am so afraid that this is

going

> to take a long time to resolve.  Has anybody else experienced this?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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FOUR DAYS???

At four days my knee was so badly swollen that my PT was insisting that I go

back to the doctor (an hour¹s drive) and I was taking pictures of the poor

thing, it looked like the skin was going to split open, and it was all pink

and yellow and fevered. I wasn¹t even THINKING about leg lifts: all I could

do was lie around drugged and pant.

At two months I had full extension and flexion (120 degrees) and at three

months the whole thing was just a bad memory, I went to Europe and walked

all over the place.

Give yourself time. Do you have any good books? How about DVD¹s of CSI

shows, mind candy?

F

on 10/15/10 7:07 PM, Merlich at cruisintheseas@... wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> 4 days post op now from left TKR.  The swelling and pain are worse today, but

> i

> am coping with lots of ice and pain meds every 3 hours.  My main concern is

> that

> i am unable to do a straight leg lift on the operative side.  I cannot get it

> up

> at all.  I have horrendous pain under my knee cap every time i try.  The PT

> said

> it will come and not to push it at this point.  I have overall knee pain from

> swelling and the surgery, but my knee cap pain is the worst, even with

> walking. 

> I am hoping as the swelling goes down, so will the knee cap pain.  In the

> past,

> with my regular knee scopes, this has always been my problem........excessive

> swelling and sharp, unbearable knee cap pain.  I am so afraid that this is

> going

> to take a long time to resolve.  Has anybody else experienced this?

>

>

>

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hi julie,

try and relax a litte. 4 days out from surgery is nothing at all. this recovery

takes a lot of time and effort and you're just enering the first stage of it.

don't put so much pressure on yourself. at 4 days you shouldn't be able to do

leg lifts yet. slow down and listen to your pt and your body. it will all come

in time.

jeff

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Joint Replacement

Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 10:07:32 PM

Subject: Re: Re: hi

4 days post op now from left TKR.  The swelling and pain are worse today, but i

am coping with lots of ice and pain meds every 3 hours.  My main concern is that

i am unable to do a straight leg lift on the operative side.  I cannot get it up

at all.  I have horrendous pain under my knee cap every time i try.  The PT said

it will come and not to push it at this point.  I have overall knee pain from

swelling and the surgery, but my knee cap pain is the worst, even with walking. 

I am hoping as the swelling goes down, so will the knee cap pain.  In the past,

with my regular knee scopes, this has always been my problem........excessive

swelling and sharp, unbearable knee cap pain.  I am so afraid that this is going

to take a long time to resolve.  Has anybody else experienced this?

     

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