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Hi Mark! Geoff Crenshaw here.

How is my " cyberfencing " partner today?

> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:11:05 -0500

> From: MHOLMES@... (HOLMES, MARK T.)

> Subject: Re: Re: Doctors selling supplements

>

> Well, that's fine if you are being treated by a competent doctor. A

number

True enough... it doesn't address the " bad hiring decision " of being

treated by an idiot, nor the lunacy of allowing the idiot to continue

treatment.

> I think the point Dr. Conn was making is that some doctors are

selling

> overpriced supplements that a consumer could buy on the outside at

cheaper

> prices. As for all these poor doctors who need this extra income as

you

I understand that. That's part of a competitive environment. It's kind

of like, why do people pay $2 per book more at amazon.com than they do

at book.com?

Because they want to. And that want can take the position of " trust " ,

" selection " , " convenience " , etc. It is seldom " uni-dimensional "

Are they being gouged?

I suppose only they could righteousy answer that question.

> claim, I personally haven't noticed too many doctors driving a beat

up ol'

> car like mine recently, unless they happen to work in rural America

and take

> food for payment.

That's simply due to not being " in " that particular business. An

extraordinary large percentage of Doctors and Attorneys end up in

bankruptcy due to a lack of formal training in business. (Not

accountants though, interestingly.) A fact that has not been lost on

supplement companies nor on pharmaceuticals.

Why is it, do you think, that when a Physician writes a script for an

MRI he may send you to a " particular " one, even though it's not the most

convenient to you? Try the words " limited partnership " . Now apply those

words to radiology, microbiology, laboratories, et al and you get the

drift... it's like a giant octopus, except it would be something like a

" millipus " .

> Hopefully, you realize I am generalizing to make a point.

Oh sure - goes without saying - as do I.

> As for Dr. Franco, I have no idea what he does - apparently his

patients

He is a Rheumatologist, said to be the leading expert on this therapy in

the US but I don't know how much stock one can put in that particular

description. He does enjoy quite a following from the RA support group

though (excluding myself - never had the pleasure of meeting the man)

which may give at least some credence to both his professional

competency and personal gentility.

> you won't change my mind, sorry. That's what's so great about the good

ol'

> USA - I don't have to agree with you, but I respect your right to

voice your

> opinion! :)

And like countless others I have, and perhaps will be privileged to

again, defend that right. The loss of it (which seems to be on the

horizon) is the death knell to a free society.

Regards,

Geoff Crenshaw, ACC -----------------------

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> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:31:16 GMT

> From: " Adlard " <cadlard@...>

> Subject: Re: OT You know you're Canadian if...

>

> And here in South Australia it's been 42 degrees celsius or more for

over ten

> days now :)

>

> Chris.

Hey Chris! How hot is that in " REAL " temperature?

(LOL!!!!)

Regards,

Geoff Crenshaw, ACC -----------------------

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Christianity: God's offer to save mankind

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Geoff Crenshaw wrote:

> I understand that. That's part of a competitive environment. It's kind

> of like, why do people pay $2 per book more at amazon.com than they do

> at book.com?

You mean I can save $2 per book at " book.com " ?!? Why didn't anyone tell

me?

;)

j.

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Well I think I killed something!!! That pineapple diet took something apart.

Pieces of what looked like skin showed up in the bowel when I took my coffee

enema. Unfortunately I don't have a coliander to collect this stuff and

examine it, so I can't tell if it all came out. Next battle is the roundworm

family!

---

About toxicity symptoms, I find coffee enemas are most effective. This way

the toxins are not recirculating...however, if you have never done one, it

is best to use some sort of liver tonic (such as milk thistle) before hand,

as well as start with a cleansing enema, followed by the coffee enema.

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About wormwood, I agree with Patty. Everything in moderation. Yes it is

toxic, and usually it is taken in combination with other herbs to lessen the

toxicity. Wormwood is also a sedative. However I have taken it alone in tea,

and not noticed any problems. Apparently it can become addictive...but I

don't know about that...cause it tastes awful!!!

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I plan to use Paragone...when I can find it for my 5yo. Right now I use GFSE

(grapefruit seed extract) to control her candida.

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BTW my husband just tried some senna leaf tea and passed ropies also...WOW

what a powerful cleanser! That's after 1 cup.

---

This is great list...I'm so glad I found it...where else can you talk about

such matters? :)

Donna

P.S.

I just checked Prescription for Nutritional Healing and it doesn't say

anything about wormwood being " toxic " ...but it does say... " Should not be

used during pregnancy, as it can cause spontaneous abortion " ... " Can be habit

forming with long term use " .

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I went into PubMed, the site I mentioned in my last post and did a search

for cognitive function and chemotherapy....the site is acting really screwy

lately and did not bring up pertinent studies. However......I next did a search

for you and HIT THE JACKPOT!!! Here's what you do: go to

http://www.google.com, and do a search for " cognitive function impaired by

chemotherapy. " Hit the google search button and VOILA!!! Many, many studies

are cited. Some mention breast

cancer, right up your alley. Say, many CONGRATULATIONS to you on your upcoming

college degree!! I'll say a prayer tonight that God will restore your thinking

to before the chemo. As more and more time goes by, you will see improvement

according to what I've read. Also, get yourself pronto on a sugar-free diet!!

You can still satisfy your sweet tooth with fruit and fruit juices and dates,

and raw almonds, which are sweet. I used to be a sugar junkie. I lost 20 lbs.

mainly by cutting out sugar, which is totally empty calories. Don't even be

tempted!! Grocery stores are notorious for being sugar drug pushers with every

aisle laden with candy bars!! It takes real will power, but your health is

worth it. Best of luck!!

Ellen

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:25:18 -0600

From: "Carell Tayler" <caroldee@...>

Subject: Re: Re: LR4YT

Hi Elize,

I don't know I was wondering the same thing. I have just joined so not

really sure .

My name is Carell and I live in Ponoka Alberta Canada.

Its nice to hear from someone so far away.

Take care and have a good day.

Carell

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I agree, Granny. I have to admit, last night there were storms rolling in,

and I could just see having dinner 1/2 way done, and power going out, so I

got Arby's for dinner. But we don't do that too often, as the boys really

like veggies, and you don't find them " out " as much. We do sit down and eat

together, though. Dean works 3rd shift, and he will get out of bed to eat

with us and go back to bed an hour later if he has to...When the boys played

soccer, I was their coach, and at 4 years old, they were involved 1 day a

week, for an hour. My husband helped me coach, as 9 four and five year olds

can be a handful...

I had the freedom growing up to play a backyard game of whiffle ball every

day for about 4 years, with all the neighborhood kids. I also played Soccer,

as did my brother. He switched to Football, and was an Allstate

athlete...When he got to college, on a football scholarship, of course, he

was so tired of having it shoved down his throat, he drank himself out of

school...Not to mention having 2 surgeries for brain aneurysms, and later

being told it's a good thing he quit, one more tackle could kill him,

period...

One more thing...When my parents were still married, I remember family

softball games in the front yard, we used boat cushions for bases, and the

families on the block were involved, too. My grandparents would even drive

15 minutes there to watch, and that was a lot, for them... It was a happy

time, and we were together..After the divorce, all of the family play

stopped, and I try very hard to give my children a sense of the good times...

Beth, Mommy to Austin ds and Dakota

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I agree, Granny. I have to admit, last night there were storms rolling in,

and I could just see having dinner 1/2 way done, and power going out, so I

got Arby's for dinner. But we don't do that too often, as the boys really

like veggies, and you don't find them " out " as much. We do sit down and eat

together, though. Dean works 3rd shift, and he will get out of bed to eat

with us and go back to bed an hour later if he has to...When the boys played

soccer, I was their coach, and at 4 years old, they were involved 1 day a

week, for an hour. My husband helped me coach, as 9 four and five year olds

can be a handful...

I had the freedom growing up to play a backyard game of whiffle ball every

day for about 4 years, with all the neighborhood kids. I also played Soccer,

as did my brother. He switched to Football, and was an Allstate

athlete...When he got to college, on a football scholarship, of course, he

was so tired of having it shoved down his throat, he drank himself out of

school...Not to mention having 2 surgeries for brain aneurysms, and later

being told it's a good thing he quit, one more tackle could kill him,

period...

One more thing...When my parents were still married, I remember family

softball games in the front yard, we used boat cushions for bases, and the

families on the block were involved, too. My grandparents would even drive

15 minutes there to watch, and that was a lot, for them... It was a happy

time, and we were together..After the divorce, all of the family play

stopped, and I try very hard to give my children a sense of the good times...

Beth, Mommy to Austin ds and Dakota

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We incorporate much more adults playing with the kids. Our baseball boys

challenge parents to games every year, our neighborhood has adults against

the kids games at the firestation. At my son's baseball practices they

always had some dads on the field helping, not just the coach. I don't know

who loves it more, the kids or the dads ... I also can't tell who are

cockier!! ;-)

I find it sad that my son's team has more parents watching them practice than

other teams have show up for a game. We have seen totally empty bleachers

for other teams, parents drive up and drop off their kids. But I have no

idea what needs to be done at their homes. I just wish those parents could

be having as much fun as our side is!! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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We incorporate much more adults playing with the kids. Our baseball boys

challenge parents to games every year, our neighborhood has adults against

the kids games at the firestation. At my son's baseball practices they

always had some dads on the field helping, not just the coach. I don't know

who loves it more, the kids or the dads ... I also can't tell who are

cockier!! ;-)

I find it sad that my son's team has more parents watching them practice than

other teams have show up for a game. We have seen totally empty bleachers

for other teams, parents drive up and drop off their kids. But I have no

idea what needs to be done at their homes. I just wish those parents could

be having as much fun as our side is!! ;-)

Cheryl in VA

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What time are we all going for dinner?? (Approximately)

Hugs,

Pat Lyle

<<Picnic

Falls Lake State Recreation Area

Sandling Beach (don't know exact address)

(919) 676-1027

Dinner is at the chinese restaurant across from the hotel so it should

be easy to find. We maybe could even walk!

in GA>>

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Folks, please trim the old stuff out of your posts for those of us who

get the digest. We'll know what you're responding to by the subject line.

Thanks,

Martha

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My daughter w/ BPES was an 8lb baby, but has always been on the smaller side of

the growth curves. We did growth studies as an adolescent and all was normal,

so the endocrinologist didn't believe in altering nature. At age 22, she is

5'2 " & healthy...just a lot shorter than her 6'5 " brother & 5'10 " sister. I

don't think slow growth necessarily goes with the syndrome.

blepharophimosis Slow growth (physical)?

Hi ~

Its been awhile since I've posted here. My daughter Halle has BPES

and is 16mos old. At her check up 3mos ago, her weight was in the

5th percentile which concerned the doc a bit. She said she wanted to

check her again in 3 mos - which was today. Halle's appetite had

improved considerably and I was certain her weight would be way up.

I was totally shocked when they told me she had actually lost a bit

of weight. She's now in the 3rd percentile (18.1lbs and 30 " long).

The doctor is wondering if its related to her BPES. She is running a

bunch of tests to ensure that there's not some reason she is not

gaining weight. She is otherwise very healthy and very active. She

has not been sick and seems to have lots of energy. They want to

check her for Cystic Fibrosis and had her wrists x-rayed to check

her bone growth. They also want her food monitored and recorded for

2 weeks and took a urine and stool sample to run other tests. I am

so worried now. My other children are small as well and until today

was certain that's all it was. But now I am very concerned.

Has anyone else experienced a slower growth with their Bleph babies?

Thanks for anyone's opinions or experiences!

Donna :)

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It sounds like your daughter is healthy and she is on the small side,

but you mentioned your family is on the smaller side. She is so young,

babies go through lots of changes in size.

take care

Beth

> My daughter is 3 and has always been above average (70%).

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