Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 This is an interesting theory. But what about those who are allergic to be stings???? Just curious. Cyntha Landon in Lititz, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 >Barb, Steve, other bee people > >If I were thinking about trying bee venom, what kind of work up >would you suggest. According to the allopaths my immune >system is weak and my adrenals are running on empty -- Cam Cam: I'm just not versed enough to advise you much on these issues at this point. I don't know that it is or isn't contraindicated in adrenal exhaustion. I would expect that it would be good if you feed your adrenals properly and build up very slowly, but I just don't really know. Known contraindications are supposed to be Tuberculosis, Gohnorrea, syphilis (according to Beck Bee Venom Therapy 1935 Syphilitics are hypersensitive to Hemolytic ((blood cell destroying)) poisons in the early stages and exceptionally immune in later stages. Hemolysis is one of the effects of bee venom. Other authors say that it is simply contraindicated in syphilis or that syphilitics are strongly allergic to bee venom.), kidney disease, some heart conditions (though some can be treated with it and it is generally considered good and preventative for the heart), and Diabetes. At least those are the ones I know of so far. The general Buzz in apitherapy is that it will help your immune system. That is simplistic, but.... If you actually know what is disordered with your immune system, maybe you can actually learn whether or not BV would help or not. The effects of BV on the immune system have been studied, but mostly from an allergy perspective. I was concerned at first about the TH1 V.S. TH2 issue and which one BV might stimulate, but basically just gave up and stopped worrying about it when I didn't get any answers. I hadn't had a lot of immune blood work done, but after 4 months of BVT my lyme doctor was surprised to find my immune system in such good shape considering the extent of my disability and length of illness. The one low component, CD57 NK's, Improved greatly on ABX. Maybe Barb can help on the immune system stuff. Best case scenario IMO is to find a health professional/apitherapist for at least initial consultation. Apitherapists are generally very helpful and friendly and will likely communicate with you even if you are not seeing them. Where do you live? There are more apitherapists on the east coast than the west. You can look at http://www.apitherapy.com for practicioners and " people " . If you are low on funds, most apitherapists work on a no charge basis and people leave them donations. They are in it to help people. Second best, learn what you can by reading and personal communication with apitherapists and others who use BVT. It is a good idea to join the Apitherapy-L mail list (also at apitherapy.com). Some of your questions may very well be answered there as there are some very knowledgeable people from all over the world on that list. I can send you a bibliography of books. Backchanell me with your symptoms and details and what area you live in, and we'll see what we can do. Steve E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 It is only a very small percentage of the population, under 5%, that are truly allergic. Not all of those people will have life threatening complications. Many have been told they are allergic because of a large local reaction and swelling, and actually are not. If you think that you may be allergic, it is best determined by an apitherapist whether you actually are or not. It is possible to desensitize allergic persons by gradually increasing minute injections of bee venom. I have even heard of people becoming allergic while doing BVT, desensitizing with injectible BV, and then continuing. Steve E. >This is an interesting theory. But what about those who are >allergic to be stings???? Just curious. > >Cyntha Landon in Lititz, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Isn't the lyme bacterium the " Brother " of syphilis, and thus, might it not be " contra-indicated in lyme disease as well? Also, I looked at http://www.apitherapy.com to find one, and there is only one listed in NJ, and perhaps on 3 in the US. Did I look in the right spot? Chris Other authors say that > it is simply contraindicated in syphilis or that syphilitics are > strongly allergic to bee venom.), kidney disease, some heart > conditions (though some can be treated with it and it is generally > considered good and preventative for the heart), and Diabetes. At > least those are the ones I know of so far. Where do you > live? There are more apitherapists on the east coast than the west. > You can look at http://www.apitherapy.com for practicioners and > " people " . If you are low on funds, most apitherapists work on a no > charge basis and people leave them donations. They are in it to help > people. > > Second best, learn what you can by reading and personal > communication with apitherapists and others who use BVT. It is a > good idea to join the Apitherapy-L mail list (also at > apitherapy.com). Some of your questions may very well be answered > there as there are some very knowledgeable people from all over the > world on that list. I can send you a bibliography of books. > > Backchanell me with your symptoms and details and what area you live > in, and we'll see what we can do. > > Steve E. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Angie, Do you know that you can buy bees on the internet for MS. Either to raise them yourself or just have them sent to you regularly. Beverly Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hi. A few years ago I was melting down beeswax that had quite a lot of honey in it. Before long, I noticed bees in my house. I figured out they were getting inside through a vent in my roof. It was late September. Someone told me they were hungry because of the low number of flowers at that time of year. Obviously bees have a great sense of sell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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