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hi katie,

im one of those old single guys. and ive been dating a bit since they

stuck this thing in me last march.

i generally give a lady a chance to like me before i tell her the heavy

stuff. some walk away, some dont. havent found one yet that wants to stay.

ce'st levie

bob in pa when they give you lemons , make lemonade

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i kinda think that you should tell the guy your seeing. I mean if he has a problem with it then hes not worth your time. wouldnt you rather find that out now then later after you are totally inlove with him

Love Always

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hi all,

i still have mixed feelings after reading all the replys to the dating

thing. when i came home from the hospital last march. some people that

heard of what had happened to me caused them to treat me like a leper.

everybody seemed to be so afraid that i was going to drop dead in front of

them. so, their natural instinct was to shy away from me. after a while

people started feeling more comfortable in my presence, and it was so

obvious seeing those that werent.

the couple zaps ive had didnt knock me unconscious, just scared the heck

out of me.

and on the first or second date, im not sure its anyones business

unless, as one just posted, your zaps are frequent. i certainly dont

tell everyone i meet about the icd. whether it be a date or a new

aquaintance it doesnt matter.

i do agree that it is something that shouldnt be kept secret if the

relationship looks like it may develop into something serious.

bob in pa

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hi jes,

i think maybe you have made a good point. with my ejection fraction

having climbed from 10 to 35 and me feeling so much better there is a good

possiblility im becoming a bit apathetic.

sure dont need a zap to remind me. thats why i like this site and the

people.

bob in pa........ im to fat so i use splenda instead of sugar to

make my lemonade.........

At 10:38 PM 10/23/01 +0000, you wrote:

>some good points being made... but for me, I've always made certain

>that at least one person that I'm w/knows of my condition... and if I

>were to be w/only one person... then date or no date ... he would be

>the one person that would be in the know... but seeings how I'm an

>old married lady not much chance of this becoming an issue.. hubby's

>so strict about me dating :( lol!

>JES :)

>

>

> > hi all,

> >

> > i still have mixed feelings after reading all the replys to the

>dating

> > thing. when i came home from the hospital last march. some

>people that

> > heard of what had happened to me caused them to treat me like a

>leper.

> >

> > everybody seemed to be so afraid that i was going to drop dead in

>front of

> > them. so, their natural instinct was to shy away from me. after

>a while

> > people started feeling more comfortable in my presence, and it was

>so

> > obvious seeing those that werent.

> >

> >

> > the couple zaps ive had didnt knock me unconscious, just scared

>the heck

> > out of me.

> >

> > and on the first or second date, im not sure its anyones business

> > unless, as one just posted, your zaps are frequent. i certainly

>dont

> > tell everyone i meet about the icd. whether it be a date or a new

> > aquaintance it doesnt matter.

> >

> > i do agree that it is something that shouldnt be kept secret if the

> > relationship looks like it may develop into something serious.

> >

> > bob in pa

>

>

>

>Please visit the Zapper homepage at

>http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

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Hi Kate,

I am an old married lady, but I think your question does raise some issues.

First of all, why do we date? To find a mate or to enjoy ones

company. Certainly if we are only enjoying ones company, then why would

that level of personal information have anything to do with anything?

If a relationship gets serious, then that is a different story. I would

hope that if one loves you for who you are, they would love you whether or

not you had an ICD. But again, I guess if a long term relationship were

being considered, then it would need to be addressed.

For now - I say go out there and have fun!

M in PA

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From my perspective it is best to tell people up front about the ICD. You do not want them to be in a position of being with you when you get zapped and not knowing that it is actually a treatment for you. That can be scary.

If they walk at the news then they have little or no understanding and are not worth perusing for a relationship. If they understand and stick around then there is a good possibility the relationship has a chance.

Al

in Wiarton Willie Country

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Hi Kate,

After reading Al's reply, I may edit my note - he makes a good

point. If you are really stable, then an ICD firing may not be an

issue, but then again, why do we have these things if we never thought we

would need them? If you are throwing PVC's right and left, then I

surely would want one to be with me to know of my possible danger.

A lot of good food for thought!

M in PA

At 04:52 PM 10/23/01 -0400, you wrote:

From my perspective it is best to tell people

up front about the ICD. You do not want them to be in a position of being

with you when you get zapped and not knowing that it is actually a

treatment for you. That can be scary.

If they walk at the news then they have little

or no understanding and are not worth perusing for a relationship. If

they understand and stick around then there is a good possibility the

relationship has a chance.

Al

in Wiarton Willie Country

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are we voting on replys to dating question? 'cause if we are, so far

I vote for this one :)

JES :) in NJ...

>

> From my perspective it is best to tell people up front about the

ICD. You do not want them to be in a position of being with you when

you get zapped and not knowing that it is actually a treatment for

you. That can be scary.

> If they walk at the news then they have little or no understanding

and are not worth perusing for a relationship. If they understand and

stick around then there is a good possibility the relationship has a

chance.

>

> Al

> in Wiarton Willie Country

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some good points being made... but for me, I've always made certain

that at least one person that I'm w/knows of my condition... and if I

were to be w/only one person... then date or no date ... he would be

the one person that would be in the know... but seeings how I'm an

old married lady not much chance of this becoming an issue.. hubby's

so strict about me dating :( lol!

JES :)

> hi all,

>

> i still have mixed feelings after reading all the replys to the

dating

> thing. when i came home from the hospital last march. some

people that

> heard of what had happened to me caused them to treat me like a

leper.

>

> everybody seemed to be so afraid that i was going to drop dead in

front of

> them. so, their natural instinct was to shy away from me. after

a while

> people started feeling more comfortable in my presence, and it was

so

> obvious seeing those that werent.

>

>

> the couple zaps ive had didnt knock me unconscious, just scared

the heck

> out of me.

>

> and on the first or second date, im not sure its anyones business

> unless, as one just posted, your zaps are frequent. i certainly

dont

> tell everyone i meet about the icd. whether it be a date or a new

> aquaintance it doesnt matter.

>

> i do agree that it is something that shouldnt be kept secret if the

> relationship looks like it may develop into something serious.

>

> bob in pa

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Bob.....

> i generally give a lady a chance to like me before i tell her the

> heavy

> stuff. some walk away, some dont. havent found one yet that wants

> to stay.

Oh, you poor thang! I actually asked the EP dr. before Rich got his

implant: 'What if we're, uh, you

know, and that thing goes off?' She said 'Don't worry, YOU won't feel

anything.' I said 'Darn! I thot

that might make it even more interesting'. ;)

Evil Sue (who also asked her to program it so that he'll get zapped

if he even LOOKS at a beer, cig.,

or another woman)

PS-- If i was in the market, *I'D* go out with ya..... what is sexier

than a man with a great sense of

humor, after all? :)

--

" She was not quite what you would call refined.

She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

-- Mark Twain

Rich and Sue Owens

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html

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Kate...

> I have only just started dating somone new and now I am very nervous

> about

> telling him about the implant.. should I tell him upfront, or do you

> think that largely he will see it as not so much of a big deal??

I'm a twice-divorced mother of five. In the dating arena, sometimes

having kids at home are

even worse than having a serious health problem, as far as 'scaring off'

potential friends/mates.

I was very upfront with a new prospect, about my children. I figured

they're not going away, they

are part of me and my life.... so you, New Boyfriend, need to be aware

of that right off the bat.

However, a health problem is something else. Esp. one that is not

'contagious' like herpes or

something. In that case, i would just let the dating situation develop,

and talk about other things,

and see how things went. At some point, i would share my health history,

and about the ICD. But

i would never start out announcing it. To do so might make me sound

'sick', and/or looking for a

'nurse' or something. Know what i mean?

When i was single, i had friends fix me up with this guy and that. The

only one i rejected after the

first date was one who talked incessantly about his psych problems, his

various medications, his

'bad heart' and meds. for THAT.... he was only 32 or so. He sounded like

he wanted a nurse/

shrink more than a partner! :)

Hope this helps some.

Sue (puzzled about how responses to your msg. came here before

your msg. ever did)

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Ooooh..... Bob.....

>

> thankyou for that. my head is all swollen now and i cant get my

> baseball

> cap off. geeeeeez

Which head?

Sue (thinking femur here.... for ya dirty minded sorts out

there.....) ;)

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OK so I will jump in here and play Ann Lander or Dear Abbey. I have never

had to deal with this situation but it something I thought about as I have

lost several friends who cannot deal with the fact that I have a box and I am

different. I just come with back up cables.

I for one don;t think you need to tell someone yo are just casual dating

until you relationship moves into a more serious mode. If you were planning

on spending along night of passionate love making you might want to let them

know. Of course at my old age of almost 56 that is not a reality for me.

Once around the block would probably be all I could handle if that.

I don't think having a icd is something to embarrassed about or something

that people should judge you on. Come on if someone really cares for you

they can learn to deal with the box. After all it is not catching!

Sorry its just one of those days for me.

Sharon

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Hey Bob, Listen I would date you, I bet you would be a great date. We could

sip electric lemonade and just set back and float down the river Telling

each other funny stories and taken our medication.

Listen it is getting a little cold for lemonade. How about some nice spiced

cider or some mulled wine.

I could add some pumpkin pie and whipped cream.

Sharon

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Dear All, I just got in from the stables and my morning ride. I have

barely had time to lay down my riding crop when I caught these messages.

Sue, we must compare notes on are stables. What type of saddle do you use.

I have a sneaking suspsion that Bill is h olding out on both of us. I have

heard some rumors from his area that he does more than sore his wild oats.

You know how those Air Force guys are. And what about Bob and Al, and a few

of the others that have replied. Maybe we could start a special website.

Men that are shocked for life, or shocked beyond belief.

Please excuse me I am just having one of those cray days with life/

Sharon

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hi sharon,

thankyour for the nice thoughts. what a wonderful idea. but alas, the

little boat is now in the driveway impatiently wishing next may would

arrive. sometimes i think i wish half my life away.

it does sound that way but i also enjoy the winters.

warm egg not it is. lemonade in the freezer til next year.

bob in pa

At 10:20 AM 10/24/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Hey Bob, Listen I would date you, I bet you would be a great date. We could

>sip electric lemonade and just set back and float down the river Telling

>each other funny stories and taken our medication.

>

>Listen it is getting a little cold for lemonade. How about some nice spiced

>cider or some mulled wine.

>

>I could add some pumpkin pie and whipped cream.

>

>Sharon

>

>

>Please visit the Zapper homepage at

>http://www.ZapLife.org

>

>

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Ok Bob so the boat is in the driveway, we can still dream. Winter is a

refreshing time of the year we can plan our next spring and summer and be

already to set afloat as soon as the ice clears. Maybe we should all plan a

special river cruise we could start from your place and work our way around

and down.

I think that my med increase has taken over my brain control. I feel like I

am running on high and that I am gathering speed as my life is roling out of

control down a big hill. I feel feel like I am speed or something. Mush

better than the way I have been feeling.

daughter is at OB this morning getting the latest on the baby. If all goes

well I will be a Grannie before the end of November. YEAH YEAH

Is anyone in here a dog lover. I need a shoulder as by 8 month old wire fox

terrier pup may have to be put to sleep.

Crazy Speed Sharon

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----- Original Message -----

From: <IIPistacio@...>

> We could . . . float down the river

Sharon:

" Float down the river? " I didn't realize that flotsam and jetsam were

sexual terms. Aaaah the joy of soaks.

Bill

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----- Original Message -----

From: <IIPistacio@...>

> I have a sneaking suspicion that

> Bill is holding out on both of us.

*** The story of my life. I hold it out, and nobody notices. All I get

in the way of a female response is a suspicion. And a sneaky one at that.

> I have heard some rumors from

> his area that he does more than

> sow his wild oats.

*** Sow my wild oats? No more. I'm happy just going to seed. (Martha

says I certainly have enough fetilizer.)

> You know how those Air

> Force guys are.

One day you're soaring with the eagles; the next day you're down on the

ground with the ducks and can't handle the quacks.

I am just having one of those cray days with life.

A cray day with life? Wow! Boy, do you ever have a great computer! Are

you still running in DOS 2.0?

Bill

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