Re: wi-fi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/2007 6:38:28 PM GMT Standard Time,

marc@... writes:

If I understand the wi-fi correctly it only is " on " or transmitting Rf

> when someone is using it. Meaning it can be plugged in but not active

> till its being used. Anyone?

It has to be transmitting some sort of signal continuously, otherwise

a laptop would never be able to find it. However, perhaps a wifi

transmitter that is not being actively used is less harmful than

one that is???

Marc

PAUL UK replies

Has anyone heard of legal cases relating to suing of neighbours due to

wifi/dect etc if they wont co-operate, a sort of E harrassment, unwanted rf

thing

? They have been doing it for years in London where one comercial building

interferes with anothers electrical equipment.

[Guest guest]

> If I understand the wi-fi correctly it only is " on " or transmitting Rf

> when someone is using it. Meaning it can be plugged in but not active

> till its being used. Anyone?

It has to be transmitting some sort of signal continuously, otherwise

a laptop would never be able to find it. However, perhaps a wifi

transmitter that is not being actively used is less harmful than

one that is???

Marc

[Guest guest]

Emraware,

You seem to have assumed that I was referring to you. I wasn't addressing that

to you - unless you post under several different screenames that I'm not aware

of? It was someone else who once suggested that I could disable the wireless

router remotely, through software or via the Internet.

And like I've said several times before, I'm in a living situation where I don't

have the power to make the household decisions that many of you may take for

granted. So it's not that I don't know about the dangers of wireless - which is

what you seem to have presumed - it's just that I can't do much about it. If I

had the authority, I would have gotten rid of WiFi a long time ago. As it is, I

have to do what is within my power - which isn't as much as you or a lot of

other people can do.

I may not be able to get rid of WiFi - but at least I can make it a little more

" comfortable " . It's a good thing that I can do this much - or I would probably

be in a *very* bad place now (not that my situation is exactly good or safe

now).

It's a good thing that my parents are in some ways even less computer savvy than

I am - they didn't even realize that I had made those changes to the WiFi

settings. They wouldn't have ever had to know....but I did end up mentioning it

to them on a couple of occasions. They still may not fully understand what I

did. Apparently they don't even care that much - as long as the router remains

on and the computers can still access the Internet.

Our router is located in the basement - so we're not exactly at " ground

zero " ...but it seems to be a very strong router - much stronger than our old

Comcast router (which was the white, Netgear router). I don't remember feeling

the Comcast router, unless I was at ground zero.

There appears to be an option where you can command the wireless adapter to

operate on lower power. There are 4 settings for the wireless adapter: " maximum

performance " , " low power saving " , " medium power saving " , & " maximum power

saving " . Apparently, the wireless adapter is on the " maximum performance " when

it's plugged in - then goes to " low power saving " on battery. I guess I should

try to lower these settings and see how my computer does - I've never tried

" medium power saving " or " maximum power saving " .

There is even a button on the computer itself where if you press it, it turns

off the wireless adapter. But I don't really have the option of turning it

completely off - I pretty much have to use wireless.

In the manual for this computer - it is recommended that you remain at least 8

inches from the wireless antenna - which is located inside of the upper margin

of the screen, apparently. Supposedly you are within the government's " safe "

exposure limits when you are 8 inches away - although that's probably not saying

much...

~Svetaswan

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> > Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power output

of our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could do

this

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> Svetaswan,

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> I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables instead of a wireless router.

>

> Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the equation.

Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which would be

right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down " option?

>

> One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of 1

meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to the

head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable " Wi-Fi

on the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to clarify the 6th paragraph below a little. When I say I can

" command the wireless adapter to operate on lower power " - I'm talking about the

wireless adapter within the computer, not the router. (I'm clarifying for the

novices who may come across this message at some point - not for the experts

like Emraware.) In Windows 7, you can do this by going into " Control Panel " ,

then choosing " System and Security " , then choosing " Power Options " . You can

choose a " Power Plan " , and can further tweak power options if you click on

" Change Plan Settings " . Then you can click on " Change Advanced Power Settings "

- then you can click on the specific device that you want to change. Among

other things, you can make changes under the " Wireless Adapter Settings " , the

" Processor Power Management " , or the " Multimedia Settings " .

In my experience, making changes to these settings can really make a difference

in how the computer " feels " - it's apparent emf. For example, I just changed

the Wireless Adapter Settings from " Low Power Saving " to " Medium Power Saving "

and felt an immediate difference.

~Svetaswan

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> > > Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power

output of our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could

do this

> >

> > Svetaswan,

> >

> > I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables instead of a wireless router.

> >

> > Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation. Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which

would be right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down "

option?

> >

> > One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of 1

meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to the

head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable " Wi-Fi

on the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to give an update of my experiences in fooling around with the

" Power Options " in an attempt to lower emf:

I reported feeling relief when I changed the wireless adapter settings from

" maximum performance " to " medium power saving " . I did feel relief for awhile -

then I noticed a " rebound " effect, where the " disturbing energy " increased.

Only the disturbing energy didn't feel exactly the same as the original setting

of " maximum performance " - it felt like the emf may have been coming in an

" altered " form. I think I noticed the fans coming on more often, too - and the

fans were more bothersome than usual. The overall effect was that the computer

had become significantly more bothersome than it was when I had it on the

original power settings.

(In addition to messing with the wireless adapter settings - I also fooled

around with the USB port settings and the PCI Express settings...I was trying to

effectively " turn off " things that weren't in use. I ended up undoing these

changes.)

What I think may have happened is that - by dialing down or turning off the

power-flow to certain locations - the computer started " throwing off " or wasting

power, and that wasted power became heat and/or emr (electromagnetic radiation).

So dialing down the power of components may come with a price - or it may

actually increase emf in the long run. (At least while the computer is plugged

in.) Maybe the computer is designed to distribute power in a certain way - and

deviating from the default too much may create emf on its own. Maybe it's like

dimming the screen - in some ways it's a good thing, it saves power - but it

also generates emr.

That's not to discourage anyone from trying this - your experience may be very

different. Results may vary depending on the person and the computer. I just

wanted to relate a possibility.

And maybe I should repeat this experiment - just to make sure it wasn't a

coincidence, or my imagination.

~Svetaswan

P.S. - I guess this experience validates my instinct to go with a computer that

had tolerable default settings - instead of buying a computer that's really

troublesome on the default settings, then trying to use it on minimal power

settings. It's tempting to see a Windows 7 laptop and be seduced by all of

those nice power-customization options - and buy an emf-heavy computer in hopes

of " fixing " it through the " Power Options " menu. Those options may be helpful,

but if this experience is any indication - you may not want to depend on them

*too* much.

> > >

> > > > Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power

output of our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could

do this

> > >

> > > Svetaswan,

> > >

> > > I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables instead of a wireless router.

> > >

> > > Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation. Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which

would be right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down "

option?

> > >

> > > One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of

1 meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to the

head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable " Wi-Fi

on the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I take it that you mean well (or that's what other people assumed), but you

obviously don't understand everything about my situation. And did you read

where I cannot shut the router off, because it is inextricably connected to our

phone service? If I shut the router off, I shut our landline phones down - and

my parents won't tolerate that.

And our router doesn't have an antenna to unscrew. It's an evil contraption

designed to trap me in a 24/7 bloodbath.

~Svetaswan

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> >>> Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power

output of our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could

do this

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> >> Svetaswan,

> >>

> >> I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables instead of a wireless router.

> >>

> >> Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation. Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which

would be right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down "

option?

> >>

> >> One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of 1

meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to the

head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable " Wi-Fi

on the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

> >>

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[Guest guest]

Your phone seems like it's going through the

cable system. In which case you may be able to

get a separate non-wireless telephone modem and

another internet modem. I recommend a CM100

linksys cable modem. The motorola one that

Comcast installs produces very dirty electricity.

Eli

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> > >>> Another thing that I finally started doing was dialing down the power

output of our satanic AT & T WiFry router. I remember you telling me that I could

do this

> > >>

> > >> Svetaswan,

> > >>

> > >> I don't remember ever suggesting this. I use a wired router w/ ethernet

cables instead of a wireless router.

> > >>

> > >> Even if you lower your Wi-Fi router's power, that's only half of the

equation. Your dominant exposure is probably from Wi-Fi on your laptop-- which

would be right next to you... Does your laptop have a similar " dial-down "

option?

> > >>

> > >> One acquaintance of mine tested a wi-fi router and found at a distance of

1 meter, the radiation was the same as that of a cell phone held directly to the

head. I think some laptops might be similar? IMO, one should " disable " Wi-Fi

on the laptop via the control panel, network settings. That's the best.

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