Re: need help with potential infection

[Guest guest]

> How about a bandaid, or a bandaid saturated with CS?

I found a diagram that sort of helps show where the sore is. (Note: This

is a diagram of a breast, so don't follow the link if you will be

offended!)

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc.asp?doc=21692441

The sore is approximately at the spot where second line on the right is

for the word " ducts. " The sore is on the outside (not underside like in

the diagram) of my nipple, though. To put a bandaid on it would be

extremely painful since the adhesive would be on my areola, and the

bandaid would be in my son's mouth every time he nursed. I doubt he

would put up with that anyway- it's not fun to drink with a bandaid in

your way!

[Guest guest]

>

> internally to rid the infection also. Echinacea or astralagus would

> be good for you immune system. What are you currently taking if

> anything?

>

I'm on both right now. I am on Echinacea (Nature's Way) by itself and

the astralagus is in a blend from my accupuncturist for " wind " problems

related to the chemical sensitivities.

My body has done some cleansing just with the nutritional detox- I

drained mucus nasally and vaginaly for 8 weeks this winter. Not fun!

But I am limited in what I can safely do while nursing. All the

practitioners I have seen agree that my body is extremely toxic and that

anything I do has to be very gentle and slow because I am in such bad

shape right now. All have different ways they feel I should approach

healing, and I am absorbing all their input as well as anything I find

on my own.

I would love the recipes for the juices. I didn't see them off-hand in

the files, but they might be filed somewhere I wouldn't think of looking.

[Guest guest]

On May 25, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Pollard-Grayson wrote:

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> Thanks in advance.

>

,

Hi and welcome. You are right- the antibiotics often lead to thrush.

I work primarily with moms- pregnant and nursing.

Good for you for still nursing!!!!! I also nursed for a VERY long time

;-)

I would start taking Echinacea and Goldenseal right now to help your

body fight the infection. Can you get to an La Leche League meeting?

It can be challenging to nurse a busy toddler at times. Proper latch

goes out the window. I would make a compress with equal amounts

Lavender angustifolia, Tea Tree and Chamomile, German and apply to the

area.

Another good combo would be Geranium, Lavender and Peppermint- in a

cool water compress.

What have you been using? Are you using anything now? How did the sore

begin?

Be sure to change positions nursing. TRY to get a good latch, I know

it's an " active " period.

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[Guest guest]

> Can you get to an La Leche League meeting?

I haven't found LLL too helpful for problems like this one. I have a

friend who is an IBLAC and a LLL leader who understands detoxing; she'd

probably be my best bet.

> I would make a compress with equal amounts Lavender angustifolia, Tea

> Tree and Chamomile, German and apply to the area.

> Another good combo would be Geranium, Lavender and Peppermint- in a

> cool water compress.

I'll add these to the grocery list and see what I can come up with!

> What have you been using? Are you using anything now? How did the sore

> begin?

The sore started as part of a yeast flare-up. My yeast flared up

everywhere when we opened all the windows in the house two weeks ago,

letting all the molds in but also getting me the best sleep I've had in

two years! Anyway, I originally thought the pain was just part of mild

thrush on my nipple until the sore reared its ugly head. I take

Dioxychlor DC3 when my yeast flares so violently, and that usually puts

it back into control. I was also doing organic yogurt with added

Primodopholus both vaginally and on my nipples. When my nipple kept

hurting, I started a round of gentian violet. I only did a day of it

when the head finally came out and the sore really appeared. Then I

realized it wasn't thrush and was probably something else going on.

It's been visible and hurting like this for about three days.

> TRY to get a good latch, I know it's an " active " period.

For him, yes! For me, I just lay there and try to get a brief moment of

rest.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My favorite Uncle has a saying about not eating and that is, It's just a

matter of time.

Anyway, was reading on another list about an abscess where they treated it

with tea tree oil and it caused the lump to not come to a head plus it went

away.

Baugh

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>> How about a bandaid, or a bandaid saturated with CS?

>

I doubt he

> would put up with that anyway- it's not fun to drink with a bandaid in

> your way!

>

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[Guest guest]

On May 25, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Pollard-Grayson wrote:

> o put a bandaid on it would be

> extremely painful since the adhesive would be on my areola, and the

> bandaid would be in my son's mouth every time he nursed. I doubt he

> would put up with that anyway- it's not fun to drink with a bandaid in

> your way!

>

No, you can't nurse with a band aid on.

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[Guest guest]

In juices, I'm speaking of juicing fruits and veggies... would be good for you. If you are eating organic and alot of raw fruits and veggies... you could do a juice fast...I would do it for one day at a time for now with nursing... say do one day, wait about 6-7 days, do another ... then maybe 1 a month for now.. organic juices are helpful detoxing and the body can work on healing and not digesting.

The echinacea you're taking is probably not that potent as it is mass produced product.

Check the files under Herbal Formulas for the Super tonic and super nutrition.

What does your diet consist of?

Suzi

Pollard-Grayson <epg@...> wrote:

>> internally to rid the infection also. Echinacea or astralagus would > be good for you immune system. What are you currently taking if > anything? >I'm on both right now. I am on Echinacea (Nature's Way) by itself and the astralagus is in a blend from my accupuncturist for "wind" problems related to the chemical sensitivities.My body has done some cleansing just with the nutritional detox- I drained mucus nasally and vaginaly for 8 weeks this winter. Not fun! But I am limited in what I can safely do while nursing. All the practitioners I have seen agree that my body is extremely toxic and that anything I do has to be very gentle and slow because I am in such bad shape right now. All have different ways they feel I should approach healing, and I am absorbing

all their input as well as anything I find on my own.I would love the recipes for the juices. I didn't see them off-hand in the files, but they might be filed somewhere I wouldn't think of looking.

[Guest guest]

On May 25, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Pollard-Grayson wrote:

> I began eating an organic whole

> grains diet

>

Given your health issues I would eliminate or minimize grains. You can

use some sprouted grains- I'd vary these. I would not use much fruit

until the candida is under control. I would want much more overall and

specific information but I can say in general I would enjoy a diet of

vegetables- especially dark leafy greens, and essential fatty acids-

Udo's oil is s good source so is flax seed oil and hemp. I'd eliminate

sugars and grains and processed foods. I'd minimize any use of meats.

Fish is good as long as it is uncontaminated ;-) A good probiotic

(really good-most is not) is important. Yogurt and kefir is excellent

internally and externally but I'd eliminate other dairy. You can use

some herbs in a tea to fortify and nourish your system and protect your

liver. many herbs are safe in pregnancy- many are not.

I would not cleanse now or use juices (sorry). I would stay hydrated

with pure water and nourishing yin teas.

I would also address stress holistically ;-)

Nourish yourself ;-) on all levels, Are you using a good nursing tea?

Eating tons of greens? Would you like some recipes?

Love,

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On May 26, 2004, at 4:30 AM, Anne wrote:

> I would not be nursing with an infected boob, use the other boob.

> Anne

>

Hmm...I wonder why you say that? Sorry, I don't mean to be

argumentative at all, but I am just really surprised by the suggestion

and I am curious what makes you suggest it? It goes against the advice

of lactation experts and La Leche League etc. There is no reason at all

(that I am aware of) to stop nursing, It is actually vital to keep

nursing both breasts or this could become much, much worse. If think if

the breast is too painful to nurse then the breast can be pumped- but

if it is not nursed or pumped you may wind up with a very severe case

of mastitis.

Please speak with a lactation consultant or La Leche League leader if

you are unsure.

I would stay braless as much as possible, only wear cotton, let the

breast air dry after nursing and work on positioning. The essential

oils I mentioned will work better that any thing else I know to get rid

of the infection, reduce inflammation, relieve any discomfort etc. I'd

also strengthen the immune system and work on root issues for the

imbalances you have spoken of. A little breast milk is also very good

on the area. If the infection does spread and you need any I can give

you instructions on making a poultice. A single cabbage leaf is also

very effective.

Good luck!

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like a clogged milk duct that got infected and mild mastitis. Make the Super Tonic and start taking it like Suzi suggested. Alternate warm and cool moist compresses on the sore between feedings. Try to make some time for yourself more, stress is a huge factor.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Pollard-Grayson

health

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:23 PM

Subject: need help with potential infection

Hi. I haven't posted before, so I'll give a very brief un-healthbackground on me to help with my current issue. I'm a 29 year oldmother of four (three living) who has chronic systemic candida,chronic fatigue syndrome, leaky gut syndrome, and multiple chemicalsensitivites which worsen by the day. I began eating an organic wholegrains diet last August, and I have been going through nutritionaldetox since then. I've learned to accept strange things that my bodydoes as part of the healing. But I've got one at the moment that isgetting worse and painful. My current problem/issue is that I have a sore that has formed at thebase of my nipple. Yes, I am nursing a 14 month old at the moment,and no, weaning is definitely not the answer to this! The sore isonly about the size of a mosquito bite, and the "head" to it is about2mm. It was looking like a scab a few days ago, but it has started tolook like an infection as in between nursings it gets ayellowish/green scab to it. It's not oozing pus, but it looks andfeels like it should be. It's worst when he's nursing, though I canminimize it if I can get him to stay in a certain position, a nearimpossible feat with a nursing toddler. In between feedings, itoccasionally hurts, but usually is ok. A few years ago I would haveslapped polysporin on it; now that's not even a remote option sinceI'm not really wanting to have a massive thrush flare up. I've alsobecome VERY distrustful of antibiotics because they are a large partof what destroyed my body in the first place.I put some colloidal silver on it this evening in an attempt to findsomething in my pantry that might help, wouldn't hurt, and was safefor ingestion. Does anyone else have other suggestions?Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I would have to agree with on this issue. You really need to

cut down on the grains, use only sprouted grains when you do use grains,

the same with seeds and nuts. You should go predominantly raw green

leafy vegetables. Zero on the fruits till you clear the yeast. You need

to be drinking lots of pure distilled or RO water. You won't need to do

any cleansings as your body is already doing that. You should make sure

you are getting plenty of Selenium, Vitamins A, E, C, D and B's. Your

body is going to need the anti-oxidants and vitamins for proper

funtioning and the minerals from the vegetables for rebuilding. Do take

in lots of quality organic yogurt or kefir (if you can get them) or any

other probiotics you can find.They will help to recolonize your colon

with friendly bacteria which helps to keep candida and the bad bacteria

in check. No breads, pastas or starches. Preferrably no meat. Do use

Udo's oil or at least Flax seed oil. Now because you mentioned leaky gut

I would highly suggest that you don't eat at all. I would juice. Just

juice, nothing but green leafy vegetables. If you must eat use Slippery

Elm and make a gruel out of it. It will nourish and soothe the digestive

tract allowing it to heal. A meal made of organic Flax seeds will be

beneficial as well. Also Wheat grass juice will help tremendously in

healing your digestive system and helping to combat the yeast.

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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>

> On May 25, 2004, at 8:23 PM, Pollard-Grayson wrote:

>

> I began eating an organic whole

> grains diet

>

>

> Given your health issues I would eliminate or minimize grains. You can

> use some sprouted grains- I'd vary these. I would not use much fruit

> until the candida is under control. I would want much more overall and

> specific information but I can say in general I would enjoy a diet of

> vegetables- especially dark leafy greens, and essential fatty acids-

> Udo's oil is s good source so is flax seed oil and hemp. I'd eliminate

> sugars and grains and processed foods. I'd minimize any use of meats.

> Fish is good as long as it is uncontaminated ;-) A good probiotic

> (really good-most is not) is important. Yogurt and kefir is excellent

> internally and externally but I'd eliminate other dairy. You can use

> some herbs in a tea to fortify and nourish your system and protect

> your liver. many herbs are safe in pregnancy- many are not.

>

> I would not cleanse now or use juices (sorry). I would stay hydrated

> with pure water and nourishing yin teas.

> I would also address stress holistically ;-)

>

> Nourish yourself ;-) on all levels, Are you using a good nursing tea?

> Eating tons of greens? Would you like some recipes?

>

> Love,

>

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