Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 You must have just missed the bee venom discussions. I do LDN and live bee stings together with no problems whatsoever. I have had the injections from my doc, but I prefer the live bees as they are not nearly as painful as the shots! (Hard to believe right?) I know for certain that if I need extra energy, a few bee stings provides it. My son puts them on my spine, but I can do the other places (legs and arms). I started BVT (bee venom therapy) before LDN, and I did see some improvement in bladder issues also. LDN just enhanced the improvement. Thanks to LDN, my days are more of a consistent level of pain/stiffness/pressure. Not as much fluctuation. I, too, did Avonex for two years, but I quit once I was in the wheelchair anyway. Maybe it does work for some, but my opinion is that for those who it seems to be slowing the progression, that's how they most likely would have progressed anyway, with or without it. (Although I completely understand the desperation associated with either taking what traditional medicine has to offer as opposed to doing nothing) The scientific proof so-to-speak really doesn't prove anything to me! I don't know anything about BVT along with Avonex. I do know that of the ABCR's, only Copaxone is recommended with LDN. My opinion (and we all know what they say about opinions, like A__holes, everyone has one, and they all stink!) If I had to choose between Avonex and LDN...there isn't much to think about! I would get a script for LDN so fast it would make any unwilling Neuro's head spin!! We, the people living with this disease day in and day out, are the experts, so I don't need a so-called expert insulting my intelligence! I'll get off of my soapbox now!! Marcie (PPMS) In a message dated 5/22/2004 5:01:23 AM Central Standard Time, gorilla777@... writes: It just struck me that I have not run across one person with MS who has mentioned bee venum on this message board.. It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 It just struck me that I have not run across one person with MS who has mentioned bee venum on this message board.. It seems to be a very good possibility for those who perhaps have tried everything else. It has been discussed on TV twice that I know of. I taped it for my daughter who has MS and is doing very well on Avonex. But in case, I told her about LDN and reminded her of bee venum. It would be great if the medical profession would come up with bee venum shots. Having those bees sting you 20 times a session is uncomfortable. I am surprised. Perhaps some of you have heard from someone that you know who has tried it ? Beverly Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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