Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 And are we really expecting the pharmaceutical companies to create any 'new' MS drugs that accomplish any really appreciable benefits? They haven't so far. Yeah, and they are also researching for a cancer cure. Sure they are; that's the ticket. Some people just don't get it. Aegis thinks is pandering to the masses. The good doctor needs to join politics and leave medicine. > > ************************************************************* > > I know I don't need to restate this, but I will for the > > record: I think most prescription drugs are needless, and > > most are downright detrimental to your health. What crap, the two most commonly presecribed drug classes are pain killers and antibiotics. These are life saving drugs. Remember, the next time you are in pain, or need antibiotics, skip them on the advise of Mr.s. That having > > been said, I also know that most doctors deal out > > prescriptions like they're Halloween candy, and that most > > patients do what their doctors tell them to - which means > > somehow getting those prescriptions filled without going > > bankrupt. Patients demand antibiotics and other drugs, docs oblige when they agree. Medicine is a business, if the doc does not follow your dictates, what do people do, change docs. How easy has it been to get your doc to prescribe LDN ?. So consider: > > > > Fact #1: The pharmaceutical industry is this country's most > > profitable business. So whats wrong with that ?. Perhaps Mr. s should go and live in Zambia. Aegis hears that the pharmaceutical companies are not doing too well over there. > > Fact #2: Americans pay more for prescription drugs than > > citizens of any other country. That's because they earn 10 x more. Drugs are expensive all over the world when priced in native currencies. You can ask the canadians/mexicans or even the Zambians if they find the drugs cheap ?. > > > > Fact #3: More than a million Americans save money by buying > > their prescription drugs in Canada. And technically, this > > makes every one of these people a criminal. This is a technical loophole that is being misapplied. The idea is that the FDA does not want shopkeepers importing cheap drugs from thirld world and other countries that can harm Americans. It would be unfair to say that drugs from Zambia cannot be imported, while those from Canada can be imported. Therefore, the FDA discourages it. If they were to allow it, what is to stop some unscrupulous drug dealers from Zambia (as an example only), setting up shop in Canada for export to the US ?. Imagine getting your copaxone or other drug being made in a country which has lower quality standards ?. >> > I'll tell you what the difference is: A 50% greater profit > > for the drug's manufacturer! Does Mr. know how much it costs to develop a drug ?. For every one drug that makes it to the markets, thousands of compounds dont. Can we ethically expect the Zambians to share in the drug development as opposed to manufacturing costs ?, when they dont have enough to eat. Once the drug has been identified, it is quite cheap to manufacture it, but who pays for identifying the drug in the first place ?. So if the costs of developing the drug are high, these are being ploughed back into the economy. Lets say the companies spends a million on reagent A, the raw materials for this are likely purchased from company B, who in turn gives business to company C and so on. So let's say the pharma company finally makes a profit, and its stock price goes up, who owns the company shares, its the American public. Has the brilliant Mr. thought what happens if Pharma goes bankrupt ?. Who will develop the new MS drugs ?. Aegis > > > > Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 As hard as it is for you to swallow this, drugs against serious diseases such as cancer, HIV, MS cannot be made at will. It requires painstaking research over many years to achieve anything. In case of most cancers, people live longer, more fruitful lives. These days, HIV is coming back, because the treatments have improved so much that folks care less about contracting HIV. There are atleast two studies for MS which show that the quality of life is much better today than before. If you believe the recent 10 year copaxone study, their 10 year relapse rates were very low. This year, Antegren, minocycline, statins are making headlines. To say that Pharma has no incentive to innovate is disingenuos. A > > > >Aegis thinks is pandering to the masses. The > >good doctor needs to join politics and leave medicine. > >> > ************************************************************* > >> > I know I don't need to restate this, but I will for the > >> > record: I think most prescription drugs are needless, and > >> > most are downright detrimental to your health. > > > >What crap, the two most commonly presecribed drug classes are pain > >killers and antibiotics. These are life saving drugs. Remember, the > >next time you are in pain, or need antibiotics, skip them on the > >advise of Mr.s. > > > >That having > >> > been said, I also know that most doctors deal out > >> > prescriptions like they're Halloween candy, and that most > >> > patients do what their doctors tell them to - which means > >> > somehow getting those prescriptions filled without going > >> > bankrupt. > > > >Patients demand antibiotics and other drugs, docs oblige when they > >agree. Medicine is a business, if the doc does not follow your > >dictates, what do people do, change docs. How easy has it been to get > >your doc to prescribe LDN ?. > > > >So consider: > >> > > >> > Fact #1: The pharmaceutical industry is this country's most > >> > profitable business. > > > >So whats wrong with that ?. Perhaps Mr. s should go and live > >in Zambia. Aegis hears that the pharmaceutical companies are not > >doing too well over there. > > > >> > Fact #2: Americans pay more for prescription drugs than > >> > citizens of any other country. > > > >That's because they earn 10 x more. Drugs are expensive all over the > >world when priced in native currencies. You can ask the > >canadians/mexicans or even the Zambians if they find the drugs > >cheap ?. > >> > > >> > Fact #3: More than a million Americans save money by buying > >> > their prescription drugs in Canada. And technically, this > >> > makes every one of these people a criminal. > > > >This is a technical loophole that is being misapplied. The idea is > >that the FDA does not want shopkeepers importing cheap drugs from > >thirld world and other countries that can harm Americans. It would be > >unfair to say that drugs from Zambia cannot be imported, while those > >from Canada can be imported. Therefore, the FDA discourages it. If > >they were to allow it, what is to stop some unscrupulous drug dealers > >from Zambia (as an example only), setting up shop in Canada for > >export to the US ?. Imagine getting your copaxone or other drug being > >made in a country which has lower quality standards ?. > > > >>> > I'll tell you what the difference is: A 50% greater profit > >> > for the drug's manufacturer! > > > >Does Mr. know how much it costs to develop a drug ?. For every > >one drug that makes it to the markets, thousands of compounds dont. > >Can we ethically expect the Zambians to share in the drug development > >as opposed to manufacturing costs ?, when they dont have enough to > >eat. Once the drug has been identified, it is quite cheap to > >manufacture it, but who pays for identifying the drug in the first > >place ?. So if the costs of developing the drug are high, these are > >being ploughed back into the economy. Lets say the companies spends a > >million on reagent A, the raw materials for this are likely purchased > >from company B, who in turn gives business to company C and so on. > >So let's say the pharma company finally makes a profit, and its stock > >price goes up, who owns the company shares, its the American public. > > > >Has the brilliant Mr. thought what happens if Pharma goes > >bankrupt ?. Who will develop the new MS drugs ?. > > > >Aegis > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 - What a wonderful predicament to be in! > > Hi , > I still have you on my mentor list from last time. The one I > had for you fell through. I tried to email you privately at > worldnet.att.net but it bounced back. The last person I had for > you postponed their surgery. There are much more volunteer mentors > right now then those in need. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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