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Re: Flagyl Help

Dear Bernadette,

The pharmacist at the infusion clinic I go to told me this about Flagyl and

minute amounts of alcohol in the catheter and the pharmacist

where I order prescriptions said this to me also. At this clinic they have

preservative free,

alcohol free catheter flushing solutions upon request so I always make sure

everything

comes without alcohol.....even tiny amounts. I was lead to believe that the

heparin will

always have some alcohol ??? ...so they just reduced the amount they had in the

line

leaving only enough to fill the arm portion on Fridays, then leave it sitting

there over the

weekends and flush it out on Mondays. They told me that if I had any reaction it

would

be on Monday when they flush it through but that it should be way less since it

is only

one third of what they usually use.

More usual hidden culprits are cough syrups and other oral meds in a base with

alcohol and

mouthwashes also.

Cheryl

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Re: Treatment Apprehension

Dear Sheila,

I had exactly the same reaction even though I had been terribly disabled (not

knowing the whole cause) for many, many years. Reading about the whole drama

didn't seem to help

much. What drove me to seek aggressive treatment was the fact that I had

no hope, no life and no meaningful future . This is not the way to go.........

Do not wait until your life becomes pathetic to do something about it.

And your life will if you don't take action. Research your antibiotics and

choose

the ones, along with your doctor that will definitley work. My sister in-law has

literally never gone to any doctor for anything.......got a tick bite ....and

after knowing all my sorrows........decided to be treated with Flagyl at

1000 mgs. per day for 6 weeks......now that's a lot of medicine for someone like

her but she is persevering out of sheer preventive fear. Whatever side effects

she

gets are most likely able to be combatted one way or the other. There are many

cancer

patients who have to take terrible, terrible, meds but through supportive means

they recover somehow. After seeing these people I knew that my med problems were

rather miniscule!!!

If you need motivation go to www.cmc.net/~jadevoll

This is what happens when Lyme is not treated early and aggressively.

Courage my friend , treatment isn't bad.....Lyme is. We share " war " stories to

make it easier on those

who come after us, not because we have it so bad.

By the way that dose of doxycycline is rather low.....

Luv,

Cheryl

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In a message dated 10/2/99 6:31:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cjdevoll@...

writes:

<< The pharmacist at the infusion clinic I go to told me this about Flagyl

and

minute amounts of alcohol in the catheter and the pharmacist

where I order prescriptions said this to me also. At this clinic they have

preservative free,

alcohol free catheter flushing solutions upon request so I always make sure

everything

comes without alcohol... >>

thank Cheryl, interesting info...B

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Another 60's member.I graduated H.S. in 61.

I also echo all that you have to say .,although I have not been military

myself.My husband served in the A.F. from 62-66(we married in 64).and my

father was killed at " The Battle of The Bulge " during WW2.

My brother in law is a pilot with United and has often piloted that flight to

San.Fran. (Thank God not this time)He also was a simulator trainer and he

trained many pilots besides those from his own airline..Unfortunately he knew

3 of the pilots of 9/11/02.

God Bless America,

HUGS

Ann Marie

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Another 60's member.I graduated H.S. in 61.

I also echo all that you have to say .,although I have not been military

myself.My husband served in the A.F. from 62-66(we married in 64).and my

father was killed at " The Battle of The Bulge " during WW2.

My brother in law is a pilot with United and has often piloted that flight to

San.Fran. (Thank God not this time)He also was a simulator trainer and he

trained many pilots besides those from his own airline..Unfortunately he knew

3 of the pilots of 9/11/02.

God Bless America,

HUGS

Ann Marie

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, to reply to you. I do have flatback and there are no rods left.

Did you have flatback revision without rods? I have tried P.T. but can't

seem to be able to find anybody in the Northern Va. area that knows much at

all about flatback. I swim, walk, do weight training work and have recently

taken a lot of weight off but none of it makes much difference.,The kids at

school that don't know me still stare away!

In response to somebody's earlier comments about s Hopkins -I'd stay away

from that place!

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Regarding your difficulty locating someone in Northern VA, I would like to

highly recommend Dr. Lauerman - Chief of Spine Surgery at town

University Hospital. He did my son's scoliosis surgery and we think he is

excellent. He extremely is competent, compassionate and very kind. He

specializes in revision surgery, too. My son also had followup PT at INOVA

Fair Oaks Hospital that helped him tremendously in his recovery. If you

would like addition information please feel free to contact me.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:57:41 -0000

From: " sjb852003 " <nbafans@...>

Subject: Any suggestions??

I started LDN about 4-5 months ago. I started 4.5 every night, went

to 4.5 every other night and now 3 every night. It has been up and

down since the starting ldn. I do think I am better on 3.

However, my legs are so stiff, it takes me forever to get out of

bed. I take 60 mg. of Baclofen and 32 mg. of Zanaflex per day and I

am still so stiff! Exercise doesn't seem to help much.

Can any one help me out here? Thanks, Sherry

Hi,

I am Bev from the UK and have a husband aged 38 with secondary

progressive m.s. He has been on LDN for about 5 months now. He started

on 3mg then increase to 4.5mg but felt terrible in the mornings on the

higher dose and it seemed to take forever to get out of bed. He now

takes 3mg a day and has a three day break ever 4 weeks to keep the

positive benefits of the drug.

About 2 months ago he started on the Best Bet Diet (including a load of

vitamin and mineral supplements), and although it is quite restrictive

he has reduced his spasms so much that they do not cause a problem (some

nights he is totally spasm free) and is now free of Baclofen (which he

used to take in the evenings only in 15mg dose) and is no longer

mentally drowsy. Often by lunch time he was very mentally fatigued and

would need to nap or at least rest quietly for an hour or more. Even

after this he would be quite tired. Please be advised that if you wish

to reduce the Baclofen you must reduce the dose slowly and with the

advice and support of your doctor. DO NOT STOP SUDDENLY!!

Now he is not napping before 5pm and is more mentally alert and is not

sleeping immediately after meals. As yet we have not seen a great

difference in his overall condition but feel happy that he seems to

appear more content and his condition a little more constant than

before. It is early days though.

I would recommend a change of diet, I think the m.s. needs tackling from

several angles all at the same time. This is war after all!!

Bev

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What time frame is everyone telling their patients to take their vit

b12/calcium/MVI after surgery?

The doc here said:

MVI after discharge

B12 once on full liquids

Ca/D, B1 in one month after surgery

Any thoughts?

-- Cunha, RD

goliveoyl22@...

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT)

> From: MacKechnie <misook_27@...>

> Subject: Re: deficiencies (vit A & CR)

>

> ,

> I've also been seeing a lot of Vitamin D and Vitamin A deficiency.

> Currently we recommend they take 8000- 10,000 IU vitamin A. until f/u labs

> normalize.

>

> I might also have her take a different MVI at this point. I like the GNC

> Solotron. You can take a look at it on GNC's website. It looks more

> complete with higher levels of b vitamins, and fat solubles etc... than

> centrum (which we have them take bid.) Therefore, I recommend it only

> once per day.

>

> I'd be interested in what others have to say about it as well. Thanks!

>

> julielewrd <jlewis@...> wrote:

>

> I have a pt who is s/p open RNY 7 mos. Labs are WNL except CR 0.5 and

> vit A 0.23 (normal ranges 0.30 - 1.20). Vitamin regimen as follows:

> B12 2500mcg 1x/wk, Ca Citrate 750mg + D 300 IU qd, Flintstone Complete

> which contains 3000 IU vit A qd.

>

> My recommendation is to take the MVI bid. My question is has anyone

> had a patient with a similar deficiency? And should I be concerned

> with low creatinine? I know it increases with muscle wasting but I'm

> not sure what it means when its low. The only thing that I could find

> was that it's low during pregnancy and she's not pregnant.

>

> Any thoughts?

> , RD, CD

> Memorial Weight Loss

> & Bariatric Surgery Center

>

>

>

>

>

>

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We start all the vitamins, in a chewable or

liquid form, when they start the pureed diet (usually about 1 ½ weeks after

surgery).

Runkle, MA, RD, LDN

Building on Basics

Nutrition Consulting Services, Inc.

From: goliveoyl22

[mailto:goliveoyl22@...]

Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005

8:18 PM

Subject: Re:

Digest Number 686

What time frame is everyone telling their patients to take their vit

b12/calcium/MVI after surgery?

The doc here said:

MVI after discharge

B12 once on full liquids

Ca/D, B1 in one month after surgery

Any thoughts?

--

Cunha, RD

goliveoyl22@...

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:12:42

-0700 (PDT)

> From: MacKechnie

<misook_27@...>

> Subject: Re: deficiencies (vit A & CR)

>

> ,

> I've also been seeing a lot of Vitamin D and

Vitamin A deficiency.

> Currently we recommend they take 8000- 10,000

IU vitamin A. until f/u labs

> normalize.

>

> I might also have her take a different MVI at

this point. I like the GNC

> Solotron. You can take a look at it on

GNC's website. It looks more

> complete with higher levels of b vitamins,

and fat solubles etc... than

> centrum (which we have them take bid.)

Therefore, I recommend it only

> once per day.

>

> I'd be interested in what others have to say

about it as well. Thanks!

>

> julielewrd <jlewis@...>

wrote:

>

> I have a pt who is s/p open RNY 7 mos. Labs

are WNL except CR 0.5 and

> vit A 0.23 (normal ranges 0.30 - 1.20).

Vitamin regimen as follows:

> B12 2500mcg 1x/wk, Ca Citrate 750mg + D 300

IU qd, Flintstone Complete

> which contains 3000 IU vit A qd.

>

> My recommendation is to take the MVI bid. My

question is has anyone

> had a patient with a similar deficiency? And

should I be concerned

> with low creatinine? I know it increases with

muscle wasting but I'm

> not sure what it means when its low. The only

thing that I could find

> was that it's low during pregnancy and she's

not pregnant.

>

> Any thoughts?

> , RD, CD

> Memorial Weight Loss

> & Bariatric Surgery Center

>

>

>

>

>

>

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We tell patients to take their multivit, B12, and

calcium starting week 4 after surgery.

Anita Aarestad, RD

--- goliveoyl22 <goliveoyl22@...> wrote:

> What time frame is everyone telling their patients

> to take their vit

> b12/calcium/MVI after surgery?

> The doc here said:

> MVI after discharge

> B12 once on full liquids

> Ca/D, B1 in one month after surgery

>

> Any thoughts?

> -- Cunha, RD

> goliveoyl22@...

>

>

> >

> > Message: 1

> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT)

> > From: MacKechnie <misook_27@...>

> > Subject: Re: deficiencies (vit A & CR)

> >

> > ,

> > I've also been seeing a lot of Vitamin D and

> Vitamin A deficiency.

> > Currently we recommend they take 8000- 10,000 IU

> vitamin A. until f/u labs

> > normalize.

> >

> > I might also have her take a different MVI at this

> point. I like the GNC

> > Solotron. You can take a look at it on GNC's

> website. It looks more

> > complete with higher levels of b vitamins, and fat

> solubles etc... than

> > centrum (which we have them take bid.) Therefore,

> I recommend it only

> > once per day.

> >

> > I'd be interested in what others have to say about

> it as well. Thanks!

> >

> > julielewrd <jlewis@...> wrote:

> >

> > I have a pt who is s/p open RNY 7 mos. Labs are

> WNL except CR 0.5 and

> > vit A 0.23 (normal ranges 0.30 - 1.20). Vitamin

> regimen as follows:

> > B12 2500mcg 1x/wk, Ca Citrate 750mg + D 300 IU qd,

> Flintstone Complete

> > which contains 3000 IU vit A qd.

> >

> > My recommendation is to take the MVI bid. My

> question is has anyone

> > had a patient with a similar deficiency? And

> should I be concerned

> > with low creatinine? I know it increases with

> muscle wasting but I'm

> > not sure what it means when its low. The only

> thing that I could find

> > was that it's low during pregnancy and she's not

> pregnant.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> > , RD, CD

> > Memorial Weight Loss

> > & Bariatric Surgery Center

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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