Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 With all this talk about vitamin C.... check out the file Lemon Peels under " Interesting Tid Bits" in the files. Thanks Suzi, I'll check that out. I find major gains when I load up on Vit. C. Maybe my body is unusual and needs more than the norm, but so many things clear up when I get at least 6 grams of C down me. I take big spoonsful of POWDERED Ester-C ONLY. I never take pills as I don't want those big acidic tabs sitting in my stomach waiting to be digested. Many people might not need as much as I do but my body is a Vitamin C sponge. Going to check the files you suggested right now! Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Check out the organic iron in the files.. I did Suzi. I have some organic cider vinegar on hand as well as some BS molasses. I intend to whip up a batch tonight. Thanks!!! Also, always brush your teeth or rinse out your mouth after taking both of those ingredients. Can do some real damage to your teeth! Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 However, we take our vitamins in powder form mixed in our smoothies in the morning. Somewhere along the line I was told that iron and Vit. E shouldn't be taken together, as the iron will wipe out the E. So I take them different times on the day. Just a habit I've gotten into. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I use the gell capsules that they sell the Vitemin E in. I pop them open and squeeze the oil into our smoothies every morning, along with our Omega 3/6/9 oil. Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock@...> wrote: This is something I've wondered about, I know some one told me when I take Panther Piss I need to up my vitamin intake and I was thinking "I thought herbal gurus didn't believe in hard pills since they're so hard to digest" but just shrugged and went to the grocery store and got me some rock hard vitamins. So what does everyone on here use for vitamins? Only powdered or from fruits/veggies? Candace__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Anyone I know takes some vitamins... whether it is Vit E (gel cap), CO-Q, niacin, ... even some of those "herbal gurus". As for a total vitamin, no, Super or Total Nutrition is best. Organic Iron and Calcium is far better than any pill. As is Rose hips and lemon peel better than a vit C pill... Does this help? SuziCandace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock@...> wrote: This is something I've wondered about, I know some one told me when I take Panther Piss I need to up my vitamin intake and I was thinking "I thought herbal gurus didn't believe in hard pills since they're so hard to digest" but just shrugged and went to the grocery store and got me some rock hard vitamins. So what does everyone on here use for vitamins? Only powdered or from fruits/veggies? Candace ----- Original Message ----- From: MorningGlory113@... health Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Vitamin C I never take pills as I don't want those big acidic tabs sitting in my stomach waiting to be digested. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 You REALLY need to go read some of this stuff. You are just like the rest of us - we all need more C than we are generally told about. By The Way, I hear that ester-c is less desirable than ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate. Don't remember the specifics.. seems it wasn't absorbed as well or similar. Vitamin C has a half life of something like 2 1/2 hrs. What you take is used up and gone at 3 hours. I use a combo of powdered and chewable C's. I'm picky about what I take and prefer pure. Reason for powdered or chewables is that I don't have to worry about a fake pill coated in concrete that my body can't digest. Works for me! Skip =========== Links below A good place to start on Vitamin C is: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/stone-i- med_hypotheses_1979-v5- p711.htm (I shorted this one to: http://tinyurl.com/56ptf ) Another good site: http://vitamincfoundation.org/ Here's a quote from this site: " Overall, we found, 12 percent of Americans had vitamin C deficiency, " said Hampl. " Normally, doctors and other health professionals think of scurvy as a disease of the past, but our research has shown that this really isn't true. " Scurvy, or vitamin C deficiency, is associated with low- grade inflammation, fatigue, limping, gum bleeding, or swollen extremities. Vitamin C depletion can also lead to a multitude of other health problems and diseases " Another is: http://www.megalink.net/~vitac/downloadpage.html This has a free downloadable book (MS Word format) called " Ezekiel's Medicine " . This one is well researched and VERY informative. And the last is: http://www.doctoryourself.com- this one has all kinds of stuff on it. Good read!! =============================================== On 3 Aug 2004 at 17:54, MorningGlory113@... wrote: > > With all this talk about vitamin C.... check out the file Lemon Peels under " Interesting Tid > Bits " in the files. > > > Thanks Suzi, I'll check that out. I find major gains when I load up on Vit. C. Maybe my body is > unusual and needs more than the norm, but so many things clear up when I get at least 6 grams > of C down me. I take big spoonsful of POWDERED Ester-C ONLY. I never take pills as I don't > want those big acidic tabs sitting in my stomach waiting to be digested. Many people might not > need as much as I do but my body is a Vitamin C sponge. Going to check the files you > suggested right now! > > Gloria > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Gloria, Check out the organic iron in the files.. SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote: So what does everyone on here use for vitamins? Only powdered or from fruits/veggies?My stomach simply cannot handle pills. I take everything in either powder or liquid. I will take capsules if that is all that's available, but no tablets ever! I took some caclium tablets once and 15 min. later I thought I was going to die! If I have to I will check the internet for any place that carries liquid supplements before I'll take pills. I do not want to digest anything, and I want something that goes right into my system. For iron I drink beet top/root juice (mixed with carrrot) that I make myself. I use juices as much as I can as they are a great source of concentrated vitamins. When I get lazy I hit the vitamin bottle.Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I take some of both. I use Orange peels (and hopefully rose Hips soon) for my vitamin C, and Lemon Egg for Calcium. I take a lot of super green stuff in Capsule or tablet form, however, when i take the tablets, i break them so that they can break up and absorb better in my tummy and space them out through the day. I have found this works really well for me because A) I dont always have time for a shake/smoothie and B)I just cant hack drinking the super green blends. Whenever possible i try to get my supplements in gel caps form as opposed to tablet and we always use food grade Supplements versus anything that is sythetic. Sylvia > This is something I've wondered about, I know some one told me when I take Panther Piss I need to up my vitamin intake and I was thinking " I thought herbal gurus didn't believe in hard pills since they're so hard to digest " but just shrugged and went to the grocery store and got me some rock hard vitamins. > So what does everyone on here use for vitamins? Only powdered or from fruits/veggies? > > Candace > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MorningGlory113@a... > health > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: Vitamin C > > > I never take pills as I don't want those big acidic tabs sitting in my stomach waiting to be digested. > Gloria > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I was under the impression that when taking "Organic Iron" aka "Panther Piss", that the vitamin to worry about was E. I didn't know that all the others needed to be upped as well. However, we take our vitamins in powder form mixed in our smoothies in the morning. Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock@...> wrote: My vitamin E is gelcaps but my other vitamins are hard pills. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ybarra health Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Vitamin C I use the gell capsules that they sell the Vitemin E in. I pop them open and squeeze the oil into our smoothies every morning, along with our Omega 3/6/9 oil. Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock@...> wrote: This is something I've wondered about, I know some one told me when I take Panther Piss I need to up my vitamin intake and I was thinking "I thought herbal gurus didn't believe in hard pills since they're so hard to digest" but just shrugged and went to the grocery store and got me some rock hard vitamins. So what does everyone on here use for vitamins? Only powdered or from fruits/veggies? Candace __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Anyone who's ever shopped carefully for vitamin C knows that there are several types of C to choose from. Here's a quick rundown of different C types from Dr. Spreen: * ASCORBIC ACID: This is the standard form of vitamin C. Calcium ascorbate is one of the salt forms of the nutrient (as opposed to the acid form). It is usually synthetic, as are other forms, such as sodium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc. It tends to be bitter, while ascorbic acid is sour. * NATURAL vs. SYNTHETIC: The synthetic vitamin C molecule is chemically identical to natural forms. The difference arises in other nutrients that accompany the C, such as bioflavonoids, which make the C more effective. That's not to say that I don't prefer natural; it's just that it's very hard to come by, and extremely expensive. So the chances of high doses of C (like 1000 milligram capsules) being all- natural are low. One possibility, however, would be Sago Palm source vitamin C, which is considered a lower risk for those who are extremely allergic. * ROSE HIPS: This natural form of vitamin C is very expensive, so nobody sells it exclusively (to my knowledge). Manufacturers put a little in with the synthetic source for marketing purposes. In its natural state, meaning mixed by Mother Nature with attending bioflavonoid fractions, there's little question (to those who treat with it regularly) that less amount of rose hips is needed for an equivalent biological action. * ACEROLA VITAMIN C: This is another natural form (from a tropical American shrub). Like rose hips, acerola is usually mixed with synthetic. * VITAMIN C COMPLEX: This is somewhat non-specific, and can be any group of related items, such as multiple salts of C (calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium ascorbates, for example). * ESTER C: There is an issue concerning Ester C, touted as stronger than the standard form. I don't think it's any stronger, and neither did Dr. Linus ing, though you'll see commercials that indicate otherwise. Some people do feel it has less of a tendency to upset their stomach, however. * FAT SOLUBLE VITAMIN C: The fat-soluble form of vitamin C is called ascorbyl palmitate, and is better absorbed and stored by the body than water-soluble forms. (All the other forms of C are water-soluble.) Ascorbyl palmitate is harder to find, and more expensive. ------------------------------------------------------------- Glimpse of the future ------------------------------------------------------------- As I've mentioned in previous e-Alerts, the amount of any vitamin you take is not necessarily the amount that your body ends up absorbing and ultimately putting to use. Stating that, " Absorption is the key to everything, " Dr. Spreen tries to give the body what he calls " luxuriant amounts " of nutrients (which he believes it can handle in high doses, as opposed to drugs), and hopes the body gets what it needs. Complicating the absorption issue is the fact that your body's ability to absorb nutrients is not necessarily the same from one day to the next. Dr. Spreen says, " The degree of vitamin C absorption changes depending upon the dose ingested and the body's need at any particular time. For example, 6000 milligrams might cause loose stools in a given healthy person when the same person during a bout with the flu might be able to take 20,000 milligrams without difficulty. " Some people are less tolerant to vitamin C in the acid form. For them switching to the salt form (sodium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc.) often permits far higher tolerance. " Dr. Spreen also points out that absorption may be facilitated by the regular use of vitamin C. " Assuming you take enough (RDA amounts won't do it), high doses of vitamin C 'awaken' dormant enzyme systems that can utilize the additional doses of the nutrient. Over a period of time they get used to having the higher dose and 'jack up' to accommodate. In my opinion the medicine of the future will be highly tailored around enzymes, utilized purely for optimizing the absorption of the nutrients we're eating, whether as foods or supplements. " --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----------- Pam --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----------------------- You REALLY need to go read some of this stuff. You are just like the rest of us - we all need more C than we are generally told about. By The Way, I hear that ester-c is less desirable than ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate. Don't remember the specifics.. seems it wasn't absorbed as well or similar. Vitamin C has a half life of something like 2 1/2 hrs. What you take is used up and gone at 3 hours. I use a combo of powdered and chewable C's. I'm picky about what I take and prefer pure. Reason for powdered or chewables is that I don't have to worry about a fake pill coated in concrete that my body can't digest. Works for me! Skip _________________________________________________________________ Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! http://dollar.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Suzanne wrote: > Had not heard that... I know the vit E more or less balances out so > that you don't get too much iron. > Suzi > > */MorningGlory113@.../* wrote: > >> Somewhere along the line I was told that iron and Vit. E >> shouldn't be taken together, as the iron will wipe out the E. So >> I take them different times on the day. Just a habit I've gotten >> into. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Iron does indeed wipe out the Vit. E which is why you need to double up on it or take the E at a different time. This is what I came up with while still playing mod on the " other " list when no body seemed to know quite why you needed to take E when using the PP. -- Peace, love and light, Don Quai " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Anne, I'm really not sure about that - maybe a google search would tell us. I do know that the green variety has a lot of Vit. C, and I know that red peppers are just ripe green peppers, so I'm thinking the Vit. C content would be the same. But I don't know about the yellow or orange varieties. If anyone comes across that information, please post it. Is the yellow and orange varieties just another green pepper at various stages of ripeness, or a different variety altogether? We have 4 colors available here - green, red, yellow, orange. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Anne Bird [mailto:irishfox@...] Carol, A bell pepper sounds good but should it be the green, yellow or red variety? The come in three colors in my grocery store. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 When I was eating a 95% raw diet (yes, I know I should get back to it, but I drifted away and now am only about 25-30%), I read that green peppers were just unripe red peppers, and that yellow and orange were colors on the way to red. Red is the best pepper to eat because it's fully ripe. Sharyn From: Anne Bird [mailto:irishfox@...] A bell pepper sounds good but should it be the green, yellow or red variety? The come in three colors in my grocery store. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 8/2/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Candace – it sounds like you may need mega-doses of plant-based digestive enzymes and probiotics to get everything moving! Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Organic, wholefood, supplements provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. http://www.bluegreensolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Candace Podratz [mailto:CandaceAndBrock@...] What about in my case where it stays in my intestines for 6 months? LOL J/K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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