whip worms

[Guest guest]

Hi M,

Thanks for your e-mail.

I certainly don't want dysentery thanks.........Not again!

(That's probably why I'm part of your group now.)

And I certainly won't deliberately be taking Whip-worm eggs in water (Or

even as an Omlette.), just yet.

I suspect that the Professor in question was suggesting " antiseptic worms "

or worms grown under sterile conditions without the usual accompanying

bacteria. (A bit like the 'sterile' leeches that are propagated for certain

hospital patients these days.)

I believe that he conducted his survey on " worms and allergies " in Peru and

I don't really know much about that place, so I can't comment.

Additionally, I can't confess to knowing much about RA, but I am now aware

that some of the causes are genetic, so I don't expect that a few worms can

do much about reversing that.

Having said that, this Professor is a bit cleverer than I am, so I'm not

going to knock him too hard.

(Sometimes a bit of lateral thinking can do the trick.......Imagine, for

example, if in 1840 the people of the World had known about boiling their

water before drinking it..........It could have saved a lot of people's

lives!)

But wouldn't it be marvellous if this man did discover a suitable treatment

to quell, relieve, or even cure Crones, IBD and Ulcerative Colitis, just

simply by taking a few 'sterile' worms?

Perhaps one day someone will come up with a full cure just as easily as

that.......Well, I hope so.

But let's hope that it's soon eh!

Best regards to you 'M'.

Mal. (Icarus)

[Guest guest]

Hi Mal, apologies, didn't mean to imply that you would take the eggs. There

have been people on this list in the past who have advocated that very thing.

I wouldn't say that the scientist is more knowledgable than you. Having

dealt with many of them over the years, there is a trend to use surveys rather

than experimentation. Experimentation is hard work, especially double-blind

experiments in humans. Over and above that, most of the double- blind

experiments

will prove to be failures. Scientific surveys are very easy in comparison to

double-blind experimentation. And although one survey has now scientific

value, they do make good news stories and good publicity for the scientists. I

am afraid my opinion of many scientists

[Guest guest]

Hi Mal, apologies, didn't mean to imply that you would take the eggs.  There

have been people on this list in the past who have advocated that very thing. 

I wouldn't say that the scientist is more knowledgable than you.  Having

dealt with many of them over the years, there is a trend to use surveys rather

than experimentation.  Experimentation is hard work, especially double-blind

experiments in humans.  Over and above that, most of the double- blind

experiments

will prove to be failures.  Scientific surveys are very easy in comparison to

double-blind experimentation.  And although one survey has absolutely no

scientific value, they do make good news stories and good publicity for the

scientists.  I am afraid my opinion of many scientists integrety is very low.

Matt         

[Guest guest]

Malcolm: Are you going to see a gastoenterologist regarding the 'digestive

issues'? I have IBD and not IBS, but I too, seldom have bleeding. In fact, I

had no anemia and at the time I was diagosed, I did have some ulceration though

none of it was causing any internal bleeding. All this to say that lack of

bleeding doesn't necessarily mean it is not IBD.

[Guest guest]

Hi Matt,

No problem mate!...........At this stage I couldn't advise anyone about anything

in relation to any illness, but I thought that I'd pass the information onward,

albeit lightheartedly.

I'm guessing that you'd already heard of this Doctor then?

The BBC T.V. programme was very interesting and Doctor Weinstock is allegedly a

Professor at one of the big Universities in the States.

I think that he's looking for more " guinea pigs " er sorry, 'participants' for

his experiments too!

And, I imagine that this could be good for some people if it actually works.

At time of writing I have no idea whether I have Reiter's, Psoriatic Arthritis

and Fybromyalgia or what............Likewise whether my lower gut problems are

IBD or IBS. (Probably the latter as there's seldom any blood.)

Like most people, I guess that if this treatment were proved to be 99%

successful and my problems down there were bad enough, that perhaps I could be

persuaded to swallow the worm eggs and give it a try.

(Under strict medical supervision, of course; and pregnancy is something that I

personally wouldn't have to worry about.)

But I wouldn't consider doing anything like that for a long time yet!

Incidentally, another feature of the BBC programme was a Brit' guy, who (for

medical and the programme purposes) swallowed the eggs of a common tape worm and

allowed the thing to grow inside him.

(Yes, some people will do anything to get on the telly, or as an alternative to

the Atkin's diet!)

A few weeks later and just before this guy got married, he took a small tablet

and visited the toilet.

Shortly afterwards he laid all 7 feet of this tapeworm out on the lawn for the

cameras.

Yes, it was all a bit disgusting, but it was quite interesting for people with

'enquiring minds' too! (Just don't watch it if you happen to be eating spaghetti

at the same time!)

Anyway, I guess that's all for now folks!

Best regards to everyone and here's hoping that Ray's health is improving and

that he's out of danger?

'bye for now!

Mal (Icarus)

P.S. For the benefit of any Americans who are thinking of coming over to England

on holiday and are unfamiliar with British customs and cuisine............ " This

isn't what we normally eat over here! " (Ha! Ha!)

[Guest guest]

Mal, sorry to be sobersides when you were joking. Yes, I have worked with

scientists in my life and I am afraid my opinion of the ones who want to be on

TV aren't very high. The old timers in RISG are used to my tirades. But the

truth is that I have been trained in the scientific method and statistical

evaluation. 99 percent of the stuff I see on TV and in magazines haven't used

proper scientific method or proper statistical analysis. What burns me is that

these scientists know this and publicize their " great discovery " anyway. Some

scientists like to see their name in the paper. One rule of thumb, if you see

the word " study " and " medical discovery " in the same article I wouldn't trust

it. I have seen populations as small as 40 or 10, such small populations

have no value at all. The proper use of a short term study is to give

scientists

an idea for experimentation or double-blind medical experiments. Even then,

a double-blind experiment isn't considered " proved " until another scientist is

able to duplicate the original experiment's results. Most double blind

experiments are failures, which means the scientist's thesis has been disproved

by

the double blind process. Long term studies can be used in medicine but the

length of a valid long term statistical study has to be five years or longer

with populations that are fairly large. Because some diseases have long

incubation periods, some statistical studies have to be 20 or 40 years in

duration

to be considered reliable. What you say about leeches is true, also some

doctors use maggots to cure gangerene. Maggots were used by armies for hundreds

if

not thousands of years to cure gangerene rather than use amputation. Yes,

some whacky and weird ideas will bear fruit, but they shouldn't be used until

cleared by the FDA and gone through the proper testing. M

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen,

Thanks for your mail.

You wrote>

Are you going to see a gastoenterologist regarding the 'digestive issues'? I

have IBD and not IBS, but I too, seldom have bleeding. In fact, I had no anemia

and at the time I was diagnosed, I did have some ulceration though none of it

was causing any internal bleeding. All this to say that lack of bleeding

doesn't necessarily mean it is not IBD.

Thank you for that info'........My doc' seems to think that people with IBD tend

to bleed around the bowel and rectum area, whereas people with IBS don't.

To be honest with you, I've been asking to see a Urologist and an Enterologist

and a Rheumatologist since August this year and I still don't have a date. (Or

even any certainty that my doc' has made an appointment for me to see one, even

though he tells me that he has requested these appointments.)

Over here our Medical Service is in such a state and the waiting lists are very

long....Often 18 months or more.

Of course you can go Private and pay about £100 for a consultation with any one

of these Specialists within 2 to 3 months......You just literally 'jump' the

queue by paying them in cash.

But since I don't have a medical insurance to claim on and haven't worked for

4.5 years, I don't have £100 to just hand out to them.

Anyway, this is all 'beside the point' but what I am saying is, that it's almost

impossible to get to see one of these people over here....Unless you're referred

by your ordinary General Practice doctor.......To change doctors is also

difficult because all the 'surgery books' are full and most doctors won't accept

new patients unless somebody on their books dies.

(*To try to get to see a dentist is much worse.)

Anyhow, this problem I have " down-under " is sometimes quite debilitating, but

most of the time I can handle it.........Some bouts of constipation are the

worst and this is the sort of time it sometimes takes to 'empty'

myself................

I hope that you'll excuse the graphical detail in this area, but I've just gone

through 3 weeks of constipation and with passing " motions " just once at the end

of each week. (3 times in total during that time.)

The only reason that I passed anything at all was due to the strong laxatives I

took on the Friday or Saturday of each week.

(If the laxatives had failed then the next step would have been to take some

high-explosives......I almost kid you not!)

With this constipation I've had slightly unfocussed vision and slimy & itchy

eyes........I've had a 'bout' of sickness and acid reflux, which lasted 3 days

and nights, with an accompanying headache.....The headache consisted of a severe

pain behind my left eye.

I've also had quite a lot of fybromyalgia type aches throughout my limbs and

across my shoulders, and some tendonitis in my calves. (The doc' knows about all

of this.)

Also, very cold knees and feet and a pain which appears to be beneath my right

hip...........This hip pain seemed worse when my bowels and system were full, so

I'm not certain what kind of pain that was.

As of Saturday my digestive system seems to be working a little better and the

" stuff " is moving through slowly.......And I don't have half as many aches.

(Also the headache seems to have disappeared now, whereas up until about last

Friday it felt as though it were just 'lurking' back there and waiting to come

back.)

Sometimes the pain makes me feel quite aggressive, but at other times I feel a

bit over-emotional and can't always understand why this is.

Occasionally I feel a bit " brain-fuzzy " and find it difficult to explain what I

would ordinarily term as " simple things " , or I can't remember a simple word or

term used in everyday speech.

But on some occasions I can be about as sharp as any lawyer that I know.

So, all in all it's been a funny old month!

I have to confess to taking some laxatives and the occasional pain killer

(respectively) to help me through the odd 'bout' of constipation or the aching,

but at this time I don't appear to need the kind of drugs that many of you out

there are forced to take, just to get around. (Luckily for me, at this stage.)

Even so, there are days when I get quite angry with myself and my condition

because I find my body or its senses letting me down in a way that they never

used to.

For example, like trying to turn around or change direction quite quickly and

finding that my foot doesn't want to move where and when I want it to

move.........And so I start to trip over it........Or trying to do a simple job

of work around the house and finding that my hand won't grip the screwdriver

properly because there's a sudden lack of dexterity in my hands and fingers, or

that my mind can't properly focus on the job.

Anyway, I'm sorry for the long story here, but that's about as far as I've got

with this 'condition' at time of writing.

I suppose that I feel " like a bird with clipped wings " and it's that side of

things, which gets to me even more than the aches and pains. (And by all

accounts the real pains haven't even started on me yet!)

So......If you can recognise any of the symptoms I've outlined, and distinguish

them as being IBS or IBD related, I'd be quite relieved to hear more about them

from you, please!

Thanks for listening and best regards!

Mal. (Icarus)

[Guest guest]

Mal,

Speaking of natural remedies, when I was diagnosed with Reiter's (ReA),

24 years ago, My first (of only 2) Rheumatologist prescribed Gold injections. I

got a monthly shot of Gold Sodium. It is a Native American remedy from way

back in time. I don't remember the dose, but it was a yellowish liquid, and was

quite a lot. I also had to have my blood tested (like with Methotrexate) every

month. I discontinued the treatment after 18 months of no apparent

improvement. Pretty weird, eh? Harv in Michigan

[Guest guest]

Hi Matt,

There's no need to apologise mate......... I was partly joking and partly

serious, after all we are all involved in quite a serious business here.

I keep an open mind on most things and try to add a bit of humour to it if I

can. (And, I appreciate that it isn't always easy to see when I am joking.)

On the subject of scientists, well I suppose that the guy does look a bit

like a " second-hand " car salesman. (Apologies to all Car salesmen/women

reading this!)

You mentioned maggots for healing gangrene?.............(They're very high

in protein too!)

Here's a bit of history, which might interest you:

My great uncle was shot down during the First World War (1916) and was taken

prisoner by the Germans...........And at the P.O.W. camp he met another

soldier from his hometown, who was badly wounded and whose wounds had turned

septic.

Part of the wound was green and there was some rotten flesh there, so he

bred some maggots and these were put on the wound to eat away the dead

flesh.

After about 2 days of this treatment the wound was then cleaned and some

mouldy bread was used in a bandage poultice, to draw out the puss and other

bad stuff.

The man, although weak at first, made a full recovery and they became good

friends and both men survived the War.

Remember also that this was 1916 and that Penicillin hadn't been discovered

at that time, but mouldy bread was known to be a natural healer even to

non-medical personnel.

(And, as maggots eat only the dead and rotten flesh, leeches mainly draw out

bad blood.)

I guess that much of this basic information on healing has been lost to the

ordinary people, due partly to the Welfare state, antibiotics and modern

medicines. (Not that I'm knocking them.)

But approximately 8 miles from here, we have an herbalist who has an 'old

remedy' for some kinds of skin growths and cancers....And he's very good

with them!

By using several herbs mixed up as a balm cream and variations on the recipe

he is known to have removed large facial moles and skin growths intact and

without surgery.

Some of these were almost as big as a golf ball on the surface and had

underlying roots and hidden tendrills as long as 12 inches.

But unfortunately it seems that Western medicine and the modern age has

little time for most of these people......Terming it as " quackery " .

And, it's also sad to reflect on a past where many of these people, would

have been burned alive, if they were caught practising these cures.

Anyhow, enough on that one, Matt.

But back to your bit about the FDA and their testing procedures.........I

certainly agree that all medicines must be tested and cleared for use by

*human beings before they are sold to the public. (*And even for use with

animals.)

And, I guess that terminally-ill patients could also be recruited for

testing some medicines if they are willing and if they are fully aware of

the consequences of their actions.

I know that if I were in that position, I would be prepared to try just

about anything that was plausible, to prolong and preserve my life or effect

a cure........And I would consider that to be reasonable behaviour.

Anyway, here's hoping that you're recovering from your latest 'bout' of

illness and that the cure is just around the corner.

Take care and best regards!

Mal.

[Guest guest]

Matt,

I just read a book called " The Greatest Experiment Performed on Women " by

Barbara Seaman about the history of hormones given to women. I really

understand now the importance of double-blind testing and not relying on

other forms of testing. Do you know that they thought estrogen reduced the

risk of Alzheimer's because they asked women with and without Alzheimer's

whether they had ever taken estrogen and the women with dementia said no, I

never took estrogen, because they couldn't remember! Doh! Nobody checked

their medical records to verify. Now, the double-blind testing they finally

did, shows estrogen increases the risk of dementia.

Janet in SF

[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

How were you diagnosed with IBD? I have diarrhea every morning and don't

know why. Also, I've recently developed a thing where if I eat a meal

that's high in protein and low in carbohydrates I get diarrhea almost

immediately really bad. Except for the mornings, I'm OK as long as I stick

to high-carb., low-protein. My rheumy. always asks if my diarrhea is bloody

and when I say no, he loses interest. Also, when I tell docs. that I had a

normal colonoscopy a year ago, they act like everything must be OK! I sure

wish I knew what was wrong cause clearly something is. Thanks.

Janet in SF

ReA since 1973; diagnosed 1997; HLA-B27+

[Guest guest]

They've found that wearing a gold ring on your finger significantly reduces

the likelihood of getting arthritis in that finger. Kind of pricey though.

[Guest guest]

Hi Harv,

Thanks for your e-mail.

I know of people with full blown osteo-arthritis who have had Gold

injections in their hands and feet.....It seems to work for some, but not

others. (I don't know that it was Gold Sodium though.)

It's interesting to hear that this is a Native American remedy....I would

imagine that they know (or knew) a lot about certain kinds of medicinal

remedied and cures.

As we all know, some people swear by gold or copper bracelets and/or anklets

to help against rheumatic problems, but others claim that they don't work

for them.

I guess that we have to try some of these things out before we know for

certain. (I've never tried one though.)

Anyhow, thanks for that Harvey.

'Hope that yours is getting better......Enjoy your Christmas!

Mal.

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

You wrote>

They've found that wearing a gold ring on your finger significantly reduces the

likelihood of getting arthritis in that finger.

My mother has osteo-arthritis and there are times when she cannot remove her

wedding ring because here ring finger is so swollen. (washing up liquid and/or

grease fail to shift it.)

Therefore she tries to remove it before the flesh swells to that point.

There is something that everyone should know about Gold rings and other gold

jewellery in the Western world though........It has additives and a 9 carat gold

ring will only be of just over one third gold.

(I.E. Nine Twenty-fourths or three-eighths pure.)

The rest will be other non-tarnishing metals.......The favourites are copper

(and its alloys) or even lead, because of its weight.

(This info' came from a goldsmith.)

This then equates that 18 carat gold should be three-quarters Gold in purity.

Anyway, this was just another bit of " useless knowledge " for anyone who isn't

aware of this.

Best regards!

Mal.

[Guest guest]

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