Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 > >Hi everyone, I thought if you raise your uric acid levels, you are opening yourself up for gout. I heard this is a very painful condition. It affects your feet. That is absolutely correct that UA is the trigger for gout. When I was looking at Inosine I found this quote: " It has been reported that MS (possibly associated with low uric acid) and gout (associated with high uric acid) are mutually exclusive. A study of 20 million Medicare and Medicaid records found no overlap between MS and gout. " Steve, did you have MS when you had gout? Which do you think is worse :-) Uric acid levels are are also reported to be low in MS patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:17:15 -0000, you wrote: >That is absolutely correct that UA is the trigger for gout. When I >was looking at Inosine I found this quote: " It has been reported that >MS (possibly associated with low uric acid) and gout (associated with >high uric acid) are mutually exclusive. A study of 20 million >Medicare and Medicaid records found no overlap between MS and gout. " > >Steve, did you have MS when you had gout? Which do you think is >worse :-) > I had the start of PPMS before I had gout because I lost my ability to run about 25 years ago. My MS was not officially diagnosed until 1996. So, no overlap would show up because my MS was not diagnosed at the time my gout was diagnosed. The gout was painful but it didn't stop me walking. The MS is not painful but it has stopped me walking. For me, MS is by far the worse problem. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I had my uric acid level measured a few years ago; it was far below normal. My doctor was surprised, having not heard of the exclusivity of gout and MS. I have used Inosine during periods of muscle stiffness (why didn't I think of it for the LDN caused stiffness!) and never had any gout issues. It did help the MS stiffness. Before starting LDN I hadn't had any problem with stiffness for several months and just forgot about the Inosine. Began using it this morning and I'm either just having a better day or it is helping... ----- Original Message ----- From: " redtruck99 " <redtruck99@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Insosine & Gout > > >Hi everyone, I thought if you raise your uric acid levels, you are > opening yourself up for gout. I heard this is a very painful > condition. It affects your feet. > > That is absolutely correct that UA is the trigger for gout. When I > was looking at Inosine I found this quote: " It has been reported that > MS (possibly associated with low uric acid) and gout (associated with > high uric acid) are mutually exclusive. A study of 20 million > Medicare and Medicaid records found no overlap between MS and gout. " > > Steve, did you have MS when you had gout? Which do you think is > worse :-) > > Uric acid levels are are also reported to be low in MS patients. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 When the gout was diagnosed did the doctor actually check your uric acid level? Just curious... ----- Original Message ----- From: <steve@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Insosine & Gout > On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:17:15 -0000, you wrote: > > >That is absolutely correct that UA is the trigger for gout. When I > >was looking at Inosine I found this quote: " It has been reported that > >MS (possibly associated with low uric acid) and gout (associated with > >high uric acid) are mutually exclusive. A study of 20 million > >Medicare and Medicaid records found no overlap between MS and gout. " > > > >Steve, did you have MS when you had gout? Which do you think is > >worse :-) > > > > I had the start of PPMS before I had gout because I lost my ability to > run about 25 years ago. My MS was not officially diagnosed until 1996. > So, no overlap would show up because my MS was not diagnosed at the > time my gout was diagnosed. > > The gout was painful but it didn't stop me walking. The MS is not > painful but it has stopped me walking. For me, MS is by far the worse > problem. > > Steve > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:25:57 -0700, you wrote: >When the gout was diagnosed did the doctor actually check your uric acid >level? Just curious... > > > I can't remember what was checked but the diagnoses was obvious just from the symptoms and appearance. The red inflammation around the joints was classic gout. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 One of my crew has gout problems periodically. Just wakes up with his knee in misery, it will last for a few days, then it's gone again. During one of these attacks the doctor did measure his uric acid but never checked it during a quiet period for comparison. It was above normal when measured. I thought I had gout in my left toe; actually just boots that didn't fit well. My feet were so dead at the time I couldn't tell the boots didn't fit, but my big toe let me know the next day! I bless LDN for the increased feeling in my feet. I'll be able to avoid the poorly fitting shoes and probably will manage to get through summer without blistering the bottoms of my feet on the asphalt this year. I wonder if the uric acid level drops lower as the MS gets a better grip on our systems... like in the early undiagnosed stages I wonder if our UA levels are normal enough to allow an attack of gout? Answers, we need answers. And I don't think Orchard Supply Hardware has the kind we need. ----- Original Message ----- From: <steve@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Insosine & Gout > On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:25:57 -0700, you wrote: > > >When the gout was diagnosed did the doctor actually check your uric acid > >level? Just curious... > > > > > > > > I can't remember what was checked but the diagnoses was obvious just > from the symptoms and appearance. The red inflammation around the > joints was classic gout. > > Steve > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Uric acid levels are usually low in MS. Uric acid removes harmful peroxynitrites. Inosine makes uric acid, so it makes sense to take it. Aegis > > > > >When the gout was diagnosed did the doctor actually check your uric acid > > >level? Just curious... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't remember what was checked but the diagnoses was obvious just > > from the symptoms and appearance. The red inflammation around the > > joints was classic gout. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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