Re: Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dear Magpie 836 and All,

You may be surprised to learn taht your posts of two weeks ago inspired me to

remake my original versions of the Alligations I and II into word documents.

You will need to use the Alligation II method.

Go to the yellow menu from the home page then>

Files >

5- Tutorial-1 & Study Information >

S 8- Math Tutorials Only >

4. Alligations >

Alligation II

There you will find the following three documents:

1. Tutorial - Alligation II Updated Word Copy.doc

Updated word document of the original copy of advanced Alligation II that was

posted in September 2003. Posted May 23, 2009

2. Tutorial - Alligation II copy of original Created Text.doc

Tutorial Alligations II - copy of original on word document since some members

said that they can not open the Created Link. Posted Apr 3, 2009

3. Tutorial on Allegations II -copyrighted July 18,02

Learn how to dilute a stronger solution with a weaker solution using the

allegation method, commonly referred to as the tic tac toe method. This is an

enhanced example from the original PTCB Study Group! posted on Delphi, by

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT enhanced by Jeanetta Mastron copyrighted7-02 Posted

Sep 21, 2003

Here is the link that brought me to the FIRST, and newest of the 3 documents

listed:

/files/5-%20Tutorial\

-1%20%26%20Study%20Information/S%208-%20Math%20Tutorials%20Only/4.%20%20Alligati\

ons/Alligation%20II/

I used tinyurl to make this shorter url address:

http://tinyurl.com/nmg6zn

Once you enter this url Click on " Proceed to this site " listed under the long

site address "

The tiny url will ONLY work if you are already logged into the site and

the site is open on your computer. It will not work from an email unless you are

logged in to the site.

PLEASE let me know how you like the tutorials. You may recall JAMES K wrote

last week in a post that he used a math tutorial and it worked great. Hope you

have as much success. If there is something that you can not understand please

let me know.

The diagram used for solving the tic tac toe is NOT compatable with the HTML

used in postings. But I will attempt to use it here using hypens or '---' to

keep the spacing. There are NO negative numbers here.

------------- 1.5

5% -------- -------- X 1000 ml = 333.33ml of 5% NaSO4 solution

------------- 4.5

------ 2%

-------------- 3

0.5%-------- ------- X 1000 ml = 666.67 ml of 0.5% NaSO4 solution

------------ 4.5

Check: 333.33 of 5% NaSO4 solution PLUS 666.67 ml of 0.5% NaSO4 solution make a

total of 1000 ml of 2% NaSO4 solution

I HIGHLY recommend going to the tutorials, EVEN if this comes out clear here,

where I have written a discussion on the set up and all.

Hope this helps,

Please let me know....

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Pharm Tech Educator and Advocate

Founder/Owner

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> How many milliliters of a 0.5% sodium sulfate solution should be mixed with 5%

sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

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> How many milliliters of a 0.5% sodium sulfate solution should be mixed with 5%

sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

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0.5% sodium sulfate minus -1L

will be like

0.5-1 = 0.5 NO NEGATIVE PLEASE

5% sodium sulfate minus 1L

5-1 = 4

add the two answer to get

0.5 + 4 = 4.5

now solve for each

take

4/4.5 (2) =1.78

0.5/4.5(2)=.22

now check your answer.

1.78 + .22 =2.00

so the answer is correct

[Guest guest]

No s Sarpong, you can not subtract apples from oranges!

 

You cannot subract voolume (Liters or L) from percentage (%)

 

Please go to the Tutorials and SEE the layout how to do these type of problems.

 

Jeanetta Mastron

Founder/Owner

From: samuelsarpong@... <samuelsarpong@...>

Subject: Re: Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:06 AM

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> How many milliliters of a 0.5% sodium sulfate solution should be mixed with 5%

sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

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0.5% sodium sulfate minus -1L

will be like

0.5-1 = 0.5 NO NEGATIVE PLEASE

5% sodium sulfate minus 1L

5-1   = 4

add the two answer to get

0.5 + 4 = 4.5

now solve for each

take

4/4.5 (2) =1.78

0.5/4.5(2)=.22

now check your answer.

1.78 + .22 =2.00

so the answer is correct

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[Guest guest]

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magpie836 <magpie836@...> wrote:

>How many milliliters of a 0.5% sodium sulfate solution should be mixed with 5%

sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

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[Guest guest]

Dear Chelle,

You will need to use an Alligation Method to solve for this problem.

Go to the Math Tutorials on this study site in the Files section.

First go to the HOME page of this site at:

LOOK to your left and find the YELLOW Menu Box

Click on Files >

Click on 5- Tutorial-1 & Study Information >

Click on S 8- Math Tutorials Only >

Click on and OPEN 4. Alligations > Alligation II

Follow the instructions with the problem that you posted.

Let me know your answer and I will confirm it or let you know if it is

incorrect. If incorrect I will try to explain it to you further.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner of this site

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5% sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

[Guest guest]

Dear!

I don't want to use alligation to explain it for you. I use mathematics to

explain it for you. I think it is easy to understand than alligation.

x: ml of 30% solution used. 30% solution mean 30 ml of the compound in 100 ml of

solution

y: ml of 2% solution used. 2% solution mean 2 ml of the compound in 100 ml of

solution

We have two equation: x* 30/100 + y* 2/100 = 60 ml * 12/100 and x + y = 60 ml

Solve x and y. We get results.

Because of this method require to solve the two equation, so alligation is the

short cut to have the same results.

From: Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...>

Subject: Re: Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 5:05 PM

Dear Chelle,

You will need to use an Alligation Method to solve for this problem.

Go to the Math Tutorials on this study site in the Files section.

First go to the HOME page of this site at:

LOOK to your left and find the YELLOW Menu Box

Click on Files >

Click on 5- Tutorial-1 & Study Information >

Click on S 8- Math Tutorials Only >

Click on and OPEN 4. Alligations > Alligation II

Follow the instructions with the problem that you posted.

Let me know your answer and I will confirm it or let you know if it is

incorrect. If incorrect I will try to explain it to you further.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner of this site

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> >How many milliliters of a 0.5% sodium sulfate solution should be mixed with

5% sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

[Guest guest]

Dear phuc110781,

Great work!

We have a saying in the US 'What ever floats your boat! "

It means do what you like best! Do what you want!

I am sure you will have taught many a different way.

Some people are formula people some are pattern or spacial people,

some are logic etc. Some are combination etc. We all learn

in different ways. Thank you for sharing.

For years as a chemist I would have done it the way you have shown. But once

learning how Rx does it so fast I adapted. But an alligation is the use of the

pattern method (as in my tutorial), otherwise it is

a dilution by algebra. Some people are scared just to hear the word algebra!

Others love it! Obviously you love it!

So phuc110781, may I place your exact work in a tutorial with your name on it?

Thank you for sharing,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder of this site

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[Guest guest]

Of course!

I only want everyone to understand the root of the problem. It is easy for

everyone to do calculation if they forget the formular.

Have a great day.

From: Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...>

Subject: Re: Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 3:25 AM

 

Dear phuc110781,

Great work!

We have a saying in the US 'What ever floats your boat! "

It means do what you like best! Do what you want!

I am sure you will have taught many a different way.

Some people are formula people some are pattern or spacial people,

some are logic etc. Some are combination etc. We all learn

in different ways. Thank you for sharing.

For years as a chemist I would have done it the way you have shown. But once

learning how Rx does it so fast I adapted. But an alligation is the use of the

pattern method (as in my tutorial), otherwise it is

a dilution by algebra. Some people are scared just to hear the word algebra!

Others love it! Obviously you love it!

So phuc110781, may I place your exact work in a tutorial with your name on it?

Thank you for sharing,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder of this site

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[Guest guest]

You did a fine job of explaining it.

So the " Of course' is for using this in a the tutorial?

(just want to be sure! : and get your permission)

 

Have a great night!

Jeanetta

From: Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...>

Subject: Re: Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 3:25 AM

 

 

   

     

     

      Dear phuc110781,

Great work!

We have a saying in the US 'What ever floats your boat! "

It means do what you like best! Do what you want!

I am sure you will have taught many a different way.

Some people are formula people some are pattern or spacial people,

some are logic etc. Some are combination etc. We all learn

in different ways.  Thank you for sharing.

For years as a chemist I would have done it the way you have shown. But once

learning how Rx does it so fast I adapted. But an alligation is the use of the

pattern method (as in my tutorial), otherwise it is

a dilution by algebra. Some people are scared just to hear the word algebra!

Others love it! Obviously you love it!

So phuc110781, may I place your exact work in a tutorial with your name on it?

Thank you for sharing,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder of this site

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[Guest guest]

Is the answer 666.67 ml of the .5% solution correct.

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> How many milliliters of a 0.5% sodium sulfate solution should be mixed with 5%

sodium sulfate solution to make 1L of a 2% solution??

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[Guest guest]

Yes!

After you solve with the tic tac toe

you will have

1.5/4/5 x 1000ml = X ml = 333.33 ml of 5% sodium sulfate solution

and

3/4.5 x 1000ml = x ml = 666.67 ml of 0.5% sodium sulfate solution

Makes 1L of a 2% solution

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner

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