RE: Harsh words and a challenge to all

[Guest guest]

Excellent Posting!

I was going to drop this topic as no one wants to hear anything that

might disrupt the status quo or in this case, that all may not be good

within our profession. My examples, though painful for true

believers, were not meant as attacks per se, just more or less a

wakeup call that our vocation has too many entities that are

preventing it from becoming a true profession. If we looked at the

whole picture and not just pretend that all is good, we can easily see

that my examples have merit. For me, I simply find NPTA to be a

component of what is wrong within our profession, to those who are

offended by this example, instead of crying foul; maybe some light

could be shed as to why this example is not necessarily a valid one.

Both Jeanetta and I have proven ourselves in over a decade of our time

in the advocation of this vocation. We have spent thousands of hours

of free time on our computer in the offering of information vital for

those preparing for the National Exam and in the answering questions

by individual certified/noncertified Pharmacy Technicians in hopes

that they will become enlightened, all in the name in the betterment

of our profession. Many times we become discouraged as we offer so

much and yet we see little in the way of a simple " thank you " of which

is our marker that we are doing something positive in a world where

everyone has a fee for services rendered. I myself try to offer

something of value and yes I do charge a fee for some of it to offset

my costs associated. But most of what I do is free.

We are no different than any other Technician who uses our services,

in fact many have much more than we have in a financial sense.

I, and I think Jeanetta, both live on a month to month paycheck. I have bills

that sometimes get paid on time and sometimes I just do not

have financial resources so bills are left unpaid until some money

comes in. For me, a home of my own and retirement will never be an

option. We do not do what we do for income purposes, we do it out of

the true love we have for this vocation.

Realize we also risk much in saying what needs to be said, not only in

offending individual Pharmacy Technicians, but also by " stepping on

the toes " of million dollar business entities that want us to believe

all is good. Our need to inform propels us to show the " whole "

picture of which we find in some cases unfavorable. We shed light to

hopefully spark a reaction from each individual Pharmacy Technician

that something needs to be done. Unfortunately many simply cry foul

and that spark distinguishes itself quickly as simply an attack and

nothing more. So the cycle begins again and we find ourselves on the

computer helping others in need.

Joe Medina, CPhT

[Guest guest]

So lakesidecpht,

Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe Joe owes us an apology for

constantly airing his childish anger towards NPTA at all of us? Do you know how

sick and tired we are of hearing the same thing over and over? Even Jeanetta

agrees with me on that! You are right, we won't always agree on everything, but

that does not mean one person has the right to stuff his thoughts down my

throat.

I would give anything to see nothing but positive ideas and thoughts as opposed

to infighting, but when you have someone who is saying " pick me or pick them "

there is bound to be in-fighting.

I would be more than happy to apologize to Jeannetta, however, when I talked to

her last night she supported my posting so I know that is unnecessary. I will

not apologize to Joe because when you say you are going to stop doing something,

and then continue to do it, that is lying! No matter what kind of spin Joe puts

on it, it's lying plain and simple.

So lakesidecpht, I guess you get feather in your hat from Joe!

, CPhT (note that I'm not afraid to put my name on this!)

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Someone needs a nap!

Jeanetta and I just recently had some dialogue about " bullies " in the

workplace and on the site. At one time I posted on this site but I

stopped doing that because of the immediate and vitriol responses to

mine, and other, postings from members who saw things differently. I

find the postings directed at Joe to be extremely upsetting and

childish. To be successful pharmacy has to be very " family-like " and

collaborative; like every family we are going to disagree but to

direct such harsh words at one person in particular is

unconscionable. These sites are set up and maintained for free, for

the benefit of all who wish to participate. Many hours are put in to

compile information and answer questions that we all can learn from.

By posting angry, hateful words you denigrate and disrespect all the

work that Jeanetta, and other site owners, do for FREE and for your

benefit. Disagree if you need to but do it in a mature fashion. At

the very least Joe and Jeanetta are owed an apology - a promise to

temper your words from this point on is also in order.

We will never concur on which test is the definitive test for

becoming a CPhT. We'll never concur on which organization is doing

the best or the most for our profession. If we can't agree on that

then what can we agree on? What this issue does bring up is the need

for baseline requirements. What makes a CPhT? Should all pharmacy

techs have schooling? Should all techs be registered like nurses and

beauticians are? Should there be a mandatory " internship " before a

tech can be on his or her own to fill prescriptions or make IV's?

Does a 6 month period of on the job training give enough experience

for someone to qualify to take any exam for the CPhT designation?

Should it be longer? Shorter? If you weren't a tech yourself just

exactly how much education and training would you want a tech to have

before filling a prescription intended for your child or grandchild?

Many changes have had their start at a grassroots level. Many people

here are very knowledgeable and eloquent. Instead of bashing each

others opinions and trying to get everyone to see your personal way

of thinking lets work together to come up with a letter and/or a

petition that we can send to our government representatives asking

for baseline and across the board requirements. Let's start with

making registration of all techs mandatory in every state. We are

all techs, we all know other techs, let's come up with something that

we can spread around to our " family " co-workers to sign and let's

inundate our pharmacy boards and government representatives with

those letters and petitions. Changes won't happen overnight but if

we do nothing then there will be no changes at all. I challenge

everyone who reads this to join in to start this grassroots movement

towards improving our professional standing. Why wait for any

organization to do for us what we can do for ourselves.

Don't bother trying to spam me at this address because it's a throw

away that I never check. If you have something to say, say it here

but say it nice.

[Guest guest]

and to others who feel the need...

The one thing that i hate the most in seeing and reading on a forum

the mudsling that Jeanetta calls it.

Lets not forget that this site is to educate and help new techs and

us old timers who sometimes need the assistance of this forum...

We are all professionals and if you have a beef, take it off line

with that individual don't air it out on here, i don't want to see it

or read it. I was actually going to let this go but as you say ,

i'm not afraid to use my name either.

What's been said and done, let it go...or take it off line. And

Jeanetta, you do have the power to delete these postings as well.

Lets get back to educating and helping one another, not against each

other, we all have a common interest and that is pharmacy, not what

organization you belong to or trying to promote or demote.

Jeanne Li, CPhT

President/CEO

Pharmacy Resources, LLC

P.S. if you find offense to this, please feel free to email me.

>

> So lakesidecpht,

>

> Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe Joe owes us an apology

for constantly airing his childish anger towards NPTA at all of us?

Do you know how sick and tired we are of hearing the same thing over

and over? Even Jeanetta agrees with me on that! You are right, we

won't always agree on everything, but that does not mean one person

has the right to stuff his thoughts down my throat.

>

> I would give anything to see nothing but positive ideas and

thoughts as opposed to infighting, but when you have someone who is

saying " pick me or pick them " there is bound to be in-fighting.

>

> I would be more than happy to apologize to Jeannetta, however, when

I talked to her last night she supported my posting so I know that is

unnecessary. I will not apologize to Joe because when you say you

are going to stop doing something, and then continue to do it, that

is lying! No matter what kind of spin Joe puts on it, it's lying

plain and simple.

>

> So lakesidecpht, I guess you get feather in your hat from Joe!

>

> , CPhT (note that I'm not afraid to put my name on

this!)

>

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>

> Someone needs a nap!

>

> Jeanetta and I just recently had some dialogue about " bullies " in

the

> workplace and on the site. At one time I posted on this site but I

> stopped doing that because of the immediate and vitriol responses

to

> mine, and other, postings from members who saw things differently.

I

> find the postings directed at Joe to be extremely upsetting and

> childish. To be successful pharmacy has to be very " family-like "

and

> collaborative; like every family we are going to disagree but to

> direct such harsh words at one person in particular is

> unconscionable. These sites are set up and maintained for free, for

> the benefit of all who wish to participate. Many hours are put in

to

> compile information and answer questions that we all can learn

from.

> By posting angry, hateful words you denigrate and disrespect all

the

> work that Jeanetta, and other site owners, do for FREE and for your

> benefit. Disagree if you need to but do it in a mature fashion. At

> the very least Joe and Jeanetta are owed an apology - a promise to

> temper your words from this point on is also in order.

>

> We will never concur on which test is the definitive test for

> becoming a CPhT. We'll never concur on which organization is doing

> the best or the most for our profession. If we can't agree on that

> then what can we agree on? What this issue does bring up is the

need

> for baseline requirements. What makes a CPhT? Should all pharmacy

> techs have schooling? Should all techs be registered like nurses

and

> beauticians are? Should there be a mandatory " internship " before a

> tech can be on his or her own to fill prescriptions or make IV's?

> Does a 6 month period of on the job training give enough experience

> for someone to qualify to take any exam for the CPhT designation?

> Should it be longer? Shorter? If you weren't a tech yourself just

> exactly how much education and training would you want a tech to

have

> before filling a prescription intended for your child or

grandchild?

>

> Many changes have had their start at a grassroots level. Many

people

> here are very knowledgeable and eloquent. Instead of bashing each

> others opinions and trying to get everyone to see your personal way

> of thinking lets work together to come up with a letter and/or a

> petition that we can send to our government representatives asking

> for baseline and across the board requirements. Let's start with

> making registration of all techs mandatory in every state. We are

> all techs, we all know other techs, let's come up with something

that

> we can spread around to our " family " co-workers to sign and let's

> inundate our pharmacy boards and government representatives with

> those letters and petitions. Changes won't happen overnight but if

> we do nothing then there will be no changes at all. I challenge

> everyone who reads this to join in to start this grassroots

movement

> towards improving our professional standing. Why wait for any

> organization to do for us what we can do for ourselves.

>

> Don't bother trying to spam me at this address because it's a throw

> away that I never check. If you have something to say, say it here

> but say it nice.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeanne,

While I concur with your sentiments in wanting to get on with the show

in a professional manner, I do think I covered that in one of my

earlier posts today. Therefore I am hoping that no one responds to

this post by me or your post, EXCEPT to put in their opinions

regarding the CPhT title and the two major exams.

Jeanne I am looking forward to YOUR comments about the two exams.

PLEASE feel free to share.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner

For those of you wondering: Yes I thought about removing this or other

posts, but frankly I don't really like removing people's words. I

think we should all be responsible for what we write however. The

history made here is going to be/is RICH!

> >

> > So lakesidecpht,

> >

> > Has it ever occurred to you that just maybe Joe owes us an apology

> for constantly airing his childish anger towards NPTA at all of us?

> Do you know how sick and tired we are of hearing the same thing over

> and over? Even Jeanetta agrees with me on that! You are right, we

> won't always agree on everything, but that does not mean one person

> has the right to stuff his thoughts down my throat.

> >

> > I would give anything to see nothing but positive ideas and

> thoughts as opposed to infighting, but when you have someone who is

> saying " pick me or pick them " there is bound to be in-fighting.

> >

> > I would be more than happy to apologize to Jeannetta, however, when

> I talked to her last night she supported my posting so I know that is

> unnecessary. I will not apologize to Joe because when you say you

> are going to stop doing something, and then continue to do it, that

> is lying! No matter what kind of spin Joe puts on it, it's lying

> plain and simple.

> >

> > So lakesidecpht, I guess you get feather in your hat from Joe!

> >

> > , CPhT (note that I'm not afraid to put my name on

> this!)

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------

> ------------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

> >

> > Someone needs a nap!

> >

> > Jeanetta and I just recently had some dialogue about " bullies " in

> the

> > workplace and on the site. At one time I posted on this site but I

> > stopped doing that because of the immediate and vitriol responses

> to

> > mine, and other, postings from members who saw things differently.

> I

> > find the postings directed at Joe to be extremely upsetting and

> > childish. To be successful pharmacy has to be very " family-like "

> and

> > collaborative; like every family we are going to disagree but to

> > direct such harsh words at one person in particular is

> > unconscionable. These sites are set up and maintained for free, for

> > the benefit of all who wish to participate. Many hours are put in

> to

> > compile information and answer questions that we all can learn

> from.

> > By posting angry, hateful words you denigrate and disrespect all

> the

> > work that Jeanetta, and other site owners, do for FREE and for your

> > benefit. Disagree if you need to but do it in a mature fashion. At

> > the very least Joe and Jeanetta are owed an apology - a promise to

> > temper your words from this point on is also in order.

> >

> > We will never concur on which test is the definitive test for

> > becoming a CPhT. We'll never concur on which organization is doing

> > the best or the most for our profession. If we can't agree on that

> > then what can we agree on? What this issue does bring up is the

> need

> > for baseline requirements. What makes a CPhT? Should all pharmacy

> > techs have schooling? Should all techs be registered like nurses

> and

> > beauticians are? Should there be a mandatory " internship " before a

> > tech can be on his or her own to fill prescriptions or make IV's?

> > Does a 6 month period of on the job training give enough experience

> > for someone to qualify to take any exam for the CPhT designation?

> > Should it be longer? Shorter? If you weren't a tech yourself just

> > exactly how much education and training would you want a tech to

> have

> > before filling a prescription intended for your child or

> grandchild?

> >

> > Many changes have had their start at a grassroots level. Many

> people

> > here are very knowledgeable and eloquent. Instead of bashing each

> > others opinions and trying to get everyone to see your personal way

> > of thinking lets work together to come up with a letter and/or a

> > petition that we can send to our government representatives asking

> > for baseline and across the board requirements. Let's start with

> > making registration of all techs mandatory in every state. We are

> > all techs, we all know other techs, let's come up with something

> that

> > we can spread around to our " family " co-workers to sign and let's

> > inundate our pharmacy boards and government representatives with

> > those letters and petitions. Changes won't happen overnight but if

> > we do nothing then there will be no changes at all. I challenge

> > everyone who reads this to join in to start this grassroots

> movement

> > towards improving our professional standing. Why wait for any

> > organization to do for us what we can do for ourselves.

> >

> > Don't bother trying to spam me at this address because it's a throw

> > away that I never check. If you have something to say, say it here

> > but say it nice.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >