Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Hi Shirley, I see you are a fellow Oregonian! Do you take all the things in this natural 'antibiotic' twice a day, or just the B Complex? Terria Portland, Oregon I drink 2(vegetarian organic, cage-free) eggs in organic fruitsmoothy for phosphadytl serine. Take Magnesium malate,methylcobalamin (Brain B-12), Folic Acid, Curcumin,Silymarin, and B Complex (twice daily). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 > > >From: KELLY E COBURN <bonsai4jesus@...> >Subject: Re: minocycline > >Hi Shirley, > >I see you are a fellow Oregonian! Do you take all the things in this >natural 'antibiotic' twice a day, or just the B Complex? > >Terria >Portland, Oregon > Correction: phosphatydylcholine Minocycline is an antibiotic, isn't it? Shirley, I'm curious as to how all of the supplements you take as a minocylcline alternative act as an antibiotic. Garlic is antibiotic--wouldn't that work? Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 To avoid brown teeth while taking minocin you must take Vit c along with it. I had read this on an info sheet when I tried the minocin for MS and my teeth survived but my friends did not ( she did not take vit c) Wish I could dig up that fact sheet..... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 , Isn't that assuming I have Lyme, not MS? -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: no response to LDN Minocyline is more effective against Lyme and mycoplasma than Biaxin... [low dose naltrexone] Re: no response to LDN , I just had a few questions, about your post. With my personal experience, I did get symptom relieve by taking LDN. But my MS did progress, I have the MRI's too prove it. My main question was on your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Of course, but taking Biaxin is an effort to treat some type of infectious organism. The most likely culprits seem to be Lyme, chlamydia, and mycoplasma which are better treated with Minocyline. But even a sinus infection can trigger MS activity, and Biaxin is usually good for treating sinus infections. It's all a crap shoot since we pretty much don't know what we're trying to treat! [low dose naltrexone] Re: no response to LDN , I just had a few questions, about your post. With my personal experience, I did get symptom relieve by taking LDN. But my MS did progress, I have the MRI's too prove it. My main question was on your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 , Isn't minocycline, or any of the cycline family for that matter, attributed to the darkening of teeth?Maybe it's just the tradeoff you have to accept. The colloidal silver route scares me a little.I've been corresponding with a woman w/ms that achieved startling improvements with ceflesporin, or one of the sporin family. -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline Of course, but taking Biaxin is an effort to treat some type of infectious organism. The most likely culprits seem to be Lyme, chlamydia, and mycoplasma which are better treated with Minocyline. But even a sinus infection can trigger MS activity, and Biaxin is usually good for treating sinus infections. It's all a crap shoot since we pretty much don't know what we're trying to treat! [low dose naltrexone] Re: no response to LDN , I just had a few questions, about your post. With my personal experience, I did get symptom relieve by taking LDN. But my MS did progress, I have the MRI's too prove it. My main question was on your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Mino does not cause tooth discoloration in everyone, it's just another of those side effects that are hit and miss. I take plenty of vitamin C, and after two months have not yet had a problem. It does, however, continue to make me dizzy off and on. Since I was already staggering I can't see that the dizziness has affected my gait any! Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline To avoid brown teeth while taking minocin you must take Vit c along with it. I had read this on an info sheet when I tried the minocin for MS and my teeth survived but my friends did not ( she did not take vit c) Wish I could dig up that fact sheet..... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 --- In low dose naltrexone , " " <cindyyoung@a...> wrote: > , > Isn't that assuming I have Lyme, not MS? Minocycline is being used in a trial in Canada to treat MS with amazingly fanastic results. There was a wonderful article on this trial in the November 2004 issue of Canadian Living Magazine. And is right... That class of antibiotics (doxycycline, tetracycline, minocycline) are the ones you want to use for MS/Lyme's type diseases. Biaxin is good for the common cold and that's about it, and that's only the bacterial kind of cold, not viral. Antibiotics are sensitive to different organisms and they don't all work the same way. I've also heard that some of the newer teeth bleaching techniques are working really well against lengthy antibiotic therapy staining of the teeth. For what it's worth, I truly believe that sometime in the very near future, we will find out that Lyme's and MS are the same disease. I wonder what they'll call it then? Take care and have a great day. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 , Are you saying that you have been taking mino for 2 months with no positive benefits, unless staggering is a plus.Do you have to do wall walking?Do you use a walker or cane? -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline Mino does not cause tooth discoloration in everyone, it's just another of those side effects that are hit and miss. I take plenty of vitamin C, and after two months have not yet had a problem. It does, however, continue to make me dizzy off and on. Since I was already staggering I can't see that the dizziness has affected my gait any! Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline To avoid brown teeth while taking minocin you must take Vit c along with it. I had read this on an info sheet when I tried the minocin for MS and my teeth survived but my friends did not ( she did not take vit c) Wish I could dig up that fact sheet..... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Kiki, you took mino too? For how long?Have you stopped? If so why?How much vit C did you take to save your teeth? -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline Mino does not cause tooth discoloration in everyone, it's just another of those side effects that are hit and miss. I take plenty of vitamin C, and after two months have not yet had a problem. It does, however, continue to make me dizzy off and on. Since I was already staggering I can't see that the dizziness has affected my gait any! Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline To avoid brown teeth while taking minocin you must take Vit c along with it. I had read this on an info sheet when I tried the minocin for MS and my teeth survived but my friends did not ( she did not take vit c) Wish I could dig up that fact sheet..... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 No walker, I just walk like I'm mildly drunk. That hasn't gotten any better or any worse. But remember how long I've had this disease, I do not expect any sudden improvement like that I got with LDN. When using mino to treat Lyme one is cautioned to not expect any real improvement for at least two months. And it also isn't unusual to actually feel worse as a result of the die off of bacteria and the ensuing toxin load your body must clean up. Just last week I finally developed a normal appetite. First time in many many years that normal food has appealed to me. I am hungry for each and every meal and don't have to force myself to eat. That is a definite improvement. I'll just have to be patient and see if other improvements come along. J Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline To avoid brown teeth while taking minocin you must take Vit c along with it. I had read this on an info sheet when I tried the minocin for MS and my teeth survived but my friends did not ( she did not take vit c) Wish I could dig up that fact sheet..... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Hi folks: I too am taking minocycline--my diagnisis is indeterminate (all tests negative, so not sure if it's Lyme or MS or ??) so I'm taking LDN and minocycline. Minocycline has 2 separate modes of action which I hope will help me: 1. It's a good antibiotic--as noted, it's effective against Lyme. 2. If MS is not Lyme but really is an auto-immune disease, Minocycline acts as an MMP-9 inhibitor. Overactive MMPs are implicated in some of the nerve damage caused by MS. See: http://www.mmpsinms.ca The research in Canada is looking into this MMP inhibition effect as a therapy for MS, and the preliminary results are excellent--attacks halted, lesions diminished. Best of luck to all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Exactly where I'm coming from. I really believe this is caused by an infectious organism, despite all negative tests. [low dose naltrexone] Re: minocycline Hi folks:I too am taking minocycline--my diagnisis is indeterminate (all tests negative, so not sure if it's Lyme or MS or ??) so I'm taking LDN and minocycline. Minocycline has 2 separate modes of action which I hope will help me:1. It's a good antibiotic--as noted, it's effective against Lyme.2. If MS is not Lyme but really is an auto-immune disease, Minocycline acts as an MMP-9 inhibitor. Overactive MMPs are implicated in some of the nerve damage caused by MS. See:http://www.mmpsinms.caThe research in Canada is looking into this MMP inhibition effect as a therapy for MS, and the preliminary results are excellent--attacks halted, lesions diminished.Best of luck to all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Hi , can you tell me what your dosage of minocycline is? Thanks, > > Hi folks: > > I too am taking minocycline--my diagnisis is indeterminate (all tests > negative, so not sure if it's Lyme or MS or ??) so I'm taking LDN and > minocycline. Minocycline has 2 separate modes of action which I hope > will help me: > > 1. It's a good antibiotic--as noted, it's effective against Lyme. > 2. If MS is not Lyme but really is an auto-immune disease, > Minocycline acts as an MMP-9 inhibitor. Overactive MMPs are > implicated in some of the nerve damage caused by MS. See: > http://www.mmpsinms.ca > > The research in Canada is looking into this MMP inhibition effect as > a therapy for MS, and the preliminary results are excellent--attacks > halted, lesions diminished. > > Best of luck to all, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 It's the same dose used for acne: 100 mg, twice a day. > > > > Hi folks: > > > > I too am taking minocycline--my diagnisis is indeterminate (all tests > > negative, so not sure if it's Lyme or MS or ??) so I'm taking LDN and > > minocycline. Minocycline has 2 separate modes of action which I hope > > will help me: > > > > 1. It's a good antibiotic--as noted, it's effective against Lyme. > > 2. If MS is not Lyme but really is an auto-immune disease, > > Minocycline acts as an MMP-9 inhibitor. Overactive MMPs are > > implicated in some of the nerve damage caused by MS. See: > > http://www.mmpsinms.ca > > > > The research in Canada is looking into this MMP inhibition effect as > > a therapy for MS, and the preliminary results are excellent-- attacks > > halted, lesions diminished. > > > > Best of luck to all, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Thank you. > > > > > > Hi folks: > > > > > > I too am taking minocycline--my diagnisis is indeterminate (all > tests > > > negative, so not sure if it's Lyme or MS or ??) so I'm taking > LDN and > > > minocycline. Minocycline has 2 separate modes of action which I > hope > > > will help me: > > > > > > 1. It's a good antibiotic--as noted, it's effective against > Lyme. > > > 2. If MS is not Lyme but really is an auto-immune disease, > > > Minocycline acts as an MMP-9 inhibitor. Overactive MMPs are > > > implicated in some of the nerve damage caused by MS. See: > > > http://www.mmpsinms.ca > > > > > > The research in Canada is looking into this MMP inhibition > effect as > > > a therapy for MS, and the preliminary results are excellent-- > attacks > > > halted, lesions diminished. > > > > > > Best of luck to all, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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