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Dear Deb,

I would guess that your liver is hard because it has lots of stones...

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Re: Re: liver flush, -now without

> > a gallbladder

> >

> >

> > > I've asked a version of this same question which

> > got

> > > no responce from anyone here. I have no

> > gallbladder. I

> > > believe they say it is the squeezing of the GB

> > that

> > > forces the stones out so if you have none, what

> > good

> > > does it do to soak your liver with all that oil?

> > or

> > > does something still work. The herbal people think

> > > liver flushes are barbaric of course:). I can see

> > > their points but they are not chronically ill,

> > having

> > > practiced what they preach for years:).

> > >

> > > --- " C. " <holisticparents@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hello there.

> > > >

> > > > I have a friend who had her gallbladder removed

> > > > years ago. She is on a quest for health and is

> > > > following all of the information I have passed

> > on to

> > > > her and THEN some! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > She has just completed the 14 days master

> > cleanse,

> > > > lost 20 lbs and is down to 205. She felt great

> > while

> > > > on the cleanse, now not so much.

> > > >

> > > > She now wants to do the liver cleanse but has

> > read

> > > > Hulda s book. She wants to know how

> > important

> > > > it is to follow the other cleanses first,

> > especially

> > > > since she does not have a gallbladder. They take

> > > > weeks to complete and she is anxious to get to

> > the

> > > > liver cleanse and she would like to do another

> > 14

> > > > day fast before Christmas as well.

> > > >

> > > > I do have some Homozon (although it's been on

> > the

> > > > shelf for a few years) that I could give her and

> > > > she has access to my ozone generator, zappers

> > etc.

> > > >

> > > > I've only ever done the cleanses as per Hulda

> > ,

> > > > so I 'm not sure where to find the info she is

> > > > looking for.

> > > >

> > > > Any thoughts on a protocol for her to follow?

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > >

> > > > wendy

> > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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> > > > Hello there.

> > > >

> > > > I have a friend who had her gallbladder removed

> > > > years ago. She is on a quest for health and is

> > > > following all of the information I have passed

> > on to

> > > > her and THEN some! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > She has just completed the 14 days master

> > cleanse,

> > > > lost 20 lbs and is down to 205. She felt great

> > while

> > > > on the cleanse, now not so much.

> > > >

> > > > She now wants to do the liver cleanse but has

> > read

> > > > Hulda s book. She wants to know how

> > important

> > > > it is to follow the other cleanses first,

> > especially

> > > > since she does not have a gallbladder. They take

> > > > weeks to complete and she is anxious to get to

> > the

> > > > liver cleanse and she would like to do another

> > 14

> > > > day fast before Christmas as well.

> > > >

> > > > I do have some Homozon (although it's been on

> > the

> > > > shelf for a few years) that I could give her and

> > > > she has access to my ozone generator, zappers

> > etc.

> > > >

> > > > I've only ever done the cleanses as per Hulda

> > ,

> > > > so I 'm not sure where to find the info she is

> > > > looking for.

> > > >

> > > > Any thoughts on a protocol for her to follow?

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > >

> > > > wendy

> > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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Hi ; I'd suggest Dr. Kelley's liver flush, skipping the

apple juice but if you like using phosphoric acid instead, for a

candida patient. Literally nobody on the candidiasis group has

had a problem with it, and many skip the coffee enema and don't

take the Alka Seltzer either and still get lots of stones.

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/kelley.asp

Duncan

On 12 Nov 2007 at 10:49, oxyplus wrote:

> Re: whey protocol question

> Posted by: " Eagle " jacobadler123@... jacobadler123

> Date: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:52 pm ((PST))

>

> Duncan,

>

> Thanks very, very much for your comprehensive reply. It helped to

> understand your views on what inulin and the whey do to the bowels.

> I will study it further and I will attempt a liver cleanse at some

> point soon. We're unfortunately right in the middle of a highly

> stressful situation with our home due to water/mold damage from a

> poor roof install. I won't bore you with that here. But my allergist

> thinks that mold (the levels are not high, but I have allergies to

> it) could even be exascerbating the bowels which in spite of all the

> good protocols do vary from loose to constipated. I'm concerned

> about trying the liver cleanse while in the midst of all this stress

> as having done it before I know it requires a good bit of calm and

> patience and in my present case preperation. Which brings me to one

> question-- Is there a version of the liver cleanse and prep that is

> okay for those of us with candida or yeast issues? The cleanses I'd

> done years back invlved the use of apple and

> or grapfruit juice prior to and during the cleanse.

>

> Once again Duncan, thanks very much for taking the time,

>

>

> ps - Saul and anyone else on the list, your added thoughts would

> also be appreciated.

>

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Thanks Duncan,

When you suggest the phos. acid, would it be best taken with filtered water? I

have heard about malic acid as a substitute for the apples to soften the stones

prior to the cleanse. Have you or anyone heard of that and is it in your

estimation okay to use? Is there a dietary approach where you can slowly preapre

your body for the cleanse?

Thanks,

Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

Hi ; I'd suggest Dr. Kelley's liver flush, skipping the

apple juice but if you like using phosphoric acid instead, for a

candida patient. Literally nobody on the candidiasis group has

had a problem with it, and many skip the coffee enema and don't

take the Alka Seltzer either and still get lots of stones.

http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/kelley.asp

Duncan

On 12 Nov 2007 at 10:49, oxyplus wrote:

> Re: whey protocol question

> Posted by: " Eagle " jacobadler123@... jacobadler123

> Date: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:52 pm ((PST))

>

> Duncan,

>

> Thanks very, very much for your comprehensive reply. It helped to

> understand your views on what inulin and the whey do to the bowels.

> I will study it further and I will attempt a liver cleanse at some

> point soon. We're unfortunately right in the middle of a highly

> stressful situation with our home due to water/mold damage from a

> poor roof install. I won't bore you with that here. But my allergist

> thinks that mold (the levels are not high, but I have allergies to

> it) could even be exascerbating the bowels which in spite of all the

> good protocols do vary from loose to constipated. I'm concerned

> about trying the liver cleanse while in the midst of all this stress

> as having done it before I know it requires a good bit of calm and

> patience and in my present case preperation. Which brings me to one

> question-- Is there a version of the liver cleanse and prep that is

> okay for those of us with candida or yeast issues? The cleanses I'd

> done years back invlved the use of apple and

> or grapfruit juice prior to and during the cleanse.

>

> Once again Duncan, thanks very much for taking the time,

>

>

> ps - Saul and anyone else on the list, your added thoughts would

> also be appreciated.

>

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I would very much like to do this flush, but it seems like I read

somewhere that one should not have any mercury fillings in the mouth

before attempting-- like it could be rather toxic to the body to do

so. I'm 4 fillings and 2 crowns away from this. Does anybody know if

this is true?

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Yep, there's an ocean of mis-information out there too. Mercury fillings have

nothing to do

with liver/GB flushing at all! Flush away!

In actuality, A CLEAN LIVER will enable you to expel more toxins of ALL

stripes, heavy metals

included. So, if you are swallowing mercury, as all of us do who have amalgam

fillings, the

flush will help the body detox.

No chelation technique or cleansing that I know of causes a draw of more mercury

out of the

fillings. Certain acid foods like Coke will dissolve more amalgam so don't drink

that. Liver

cleansing/flushing is important following the removal of amalgam fillings, in

fact you should

do about 5 types of cleansings simultaneously when removing amalgam.

Will

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what about if the removal was done without the contact in your mouth? I have an

appointment to get the two out of my mouth. I'm still nursing and it doesn't

look like I'm quitting anytime soon , my daugther is two and not slowing down

and my son is just done at almost 5. So the question is.. should I wait the

possible 2-3 years or just do it up and get those suckers ripped out.

andrea

Will Winter <holistic@...> wrote:

Yep, there's an ocean of mis-information out there too. Mercury

fillings have nothing to do

with liver/GB flushing at all! Flush away!

In actuality, A CLEAN LIVER will enable you to expel more toxins of ALL stripes,

heavy metals

included. So, if you are swallowing mercury, as all of us do who have amalgam

fillings, the

flush will help the body detox.

No chelation technique or cleansing that I know of causes a draw of more mercury

out of the

fillings. Certain acid foods like Coke will dissolve more amalgam so don't drink

that. Liver

cleansing/flushing is important following the removal of amalgam fillings, in

fact you should

do about 5 types of cleansings simultaneously when removing amalgam.

Will

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I have heard a mom say she had fillings removed while breast feeding,

swallowed some, and her child developed problems.

on 4/1/08 7:19 PM, Danny Marrapodi at dmarrapodi@... wrote:

>

>

>

> what about if the removal was done without the contact in your mouth? I have

> an appointment to get the two out of my mouth. I'm still nursing and it

> doesn't look like I'm quitting anytime soon , my daugther is two and not

> slowing down and my son is just done at almost 5. So the question is.. should

> I wait the possible 2-3 years or just do it up and get those suckers ripped

> out.

> andrea

>

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Do not have fillings removed when nursing. I had my fillings out by a

dentist who specializes in it and my second appointment I got very sick even

though they used a lot of precautions. You must wait if you are nursing!!!!

Even if you don't feel sick, there's probably some mercury in your system.

You don't want to be passing mercury to your baby! Don't do it!!!! Can you

tell I feel very strong about this?!

Beth Dryden

www.hopfenspirger.blogspot.com

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Danny Marrapodi

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Liver Flush

what about if the removal was done without the contact in your mouth? I have

an appointment to get the two out of my mouth. I'm still nursing and it

doesn't look like I'm quitting anytime soon , my daugther is two and not

slowing down and my son is just done at almost 5. So the question is..

should I wait the possible 2-3 years or just do it up and get those suckers

ripped out.

andrea

Will Winter <holistic@... <mailto:holistic%40visi.com> > wrote:

Yep, there's an ocean of mis-information out there too. Mercury fillings

have nothing to do

with liver/GB flushing at all! Flush away!

In actuality, A CLEAN LIVER will enable you to expel more toxins of ALL

stripes, heavy metals

included. So, if you are swallowing mercury, as all of us do who have

amalgam fillings, the

flush will help the body detox.

No chelation technique or cleansing that I know of causes a draw of more

mercury out of the

fillings. Certain acid foods like Coke will dissolve more amalgam so don't

drink that. Liver

cleansing/flushing is important following the removal of amalgam fillings,

in fact you should

do about 5 types of cleansings simultaneously when removing amalgam.

Will

---------------------------------

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Total Access, No Cost.

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WOW that is super bad stuff. Waiting is probably better.

andrea

Kathy DeBoer <kdeboer@...> wrote:

I have heard a mom say she had fillings removed while breast feeding,

swallowed some, and her child developed problems.

on 4/1/08 7:19 PM, Danny Marrapodi at dmarrapodi@... wrote:

>

>

>

> what about if the removal was done without the contact in your mouth? I have

> an appointment to get the two out of my mouth. I'm still nursing and it

> doesn't look like I'm quitting anytime soon , my daugther is two and not

> slowing down and my son is just done at almost 5. So the question is.. should

> I wait the possible 2-3 years or just do it up and get those suckers ripped

> out.

> andrea

>

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I should have said, tell me about the protocol for flushing w lemon juice.

Sounds more painless. 

 

Kathy

From: Marc <marc@...>

Re: Parasite cleansing

 

> I can't handle grape fruit juice.  Have you ever tried it t w lemon?

You can do a liver flush with fresh-squeezed lemon juice. That was

the only way I did it.

I don't think I had much of a sense of taste when I started doing

liver flushes, because they didn't seem that bad. When I tried

to another one years later, the taste was awful!

Marc

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