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I don't believe it is specifically the heat and humidity. I think there is something else, barometric pressure perhaps?, that adds to the problem. I still take long hot soaks in the bath, and while I'm weak when I get out I'm not any weaker than I was pre MS after long hot soaks in the tub. And it is only for a few minutes. I'd love to have a big hot tub/whirlpool!

JT

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Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:41 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

Several years ago I went to the Carribean, and spent about ten days either in agony or drugged out of my gourd. Hot, humid, and horrible!

Yet here at home (Edmonton) I can go in a hot tub and exercise, which I have been doing for about seven years now, and feel wonderful. Sometimes I think it is the only thing that saved my sanity during some of my really bad leg spells.

I have not the faintest idea why hot & humid bothers me in the Carribean but not here. Maybe because in the south it is hot & humid all the time, while I only exercise for about two hours at a time - alternating with a regular swimming pool - and the rest of the time I am in the regular Edmonton air which is usually pretty dry. And often very cold!

Anyhow, I would recommend that some of you - very carefully of course - try out a whirlpool. Just giving it a careful try shouldn't hurt anything, and maybe it might help. Everybody is not the same of course - I have PPMS - but odds are if it helps me, it probably might help somebody else too.

Don't just ask your Dr. - the automatic answer is stay away from heat & humidity - actually test it out for yourself. You are the only one who knows how you really feel when you do something.

But just because all the experts say that hot & humid is bad for all MSrs doesn't make it so. Cause here I am, living (I think) proof.

But I repeat - BE CAREFUL.

Tom from Edmonton

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By all means try the hot tub! But by the same token have someone monitor you, One night this spring I went into the hotsprings at "Smalltown" British Columbia.and if it wasn't for my wife telling me to get the heck out I probably would have had quite a happening.I was allready red as a lobster and didn't know it!

I just about couldn't walk when I left the water and I had only been in for about ten minutes. While in the water with it bouying me up I could stand really well.

It was a good thing it was April and still quite cool that night so I recovered fairly fast, or it would have been scary.

Thinking about passing out in a hotsprings or tub is just about scary.

Reg.

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From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 08/03/04 18:14:53

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Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

I don't believe it is specifically the heat and humidity. I think there is something else, barometric pressure perhaps?, that adds to the problem. I still take long hot soaks in the bath, and while I'm weak when I get out I'm not any weaker than I was pre MS after long hot soaks in the tub. And it is only for a few minutes. I'd love to have a big hot tub/whirlpool!

JT

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From: Tom

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Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:41 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

Several years ago I went to the Carribean, and spent about ten days either in agony or drugged out of my gourd. Hot, humid, and horrible!

Yet here at home (Edmonton) I can go in a hot tub and exercise, which I have been doing for about seven years now, and feel wonderful. Sometimes I think it is the only thing that saved my sanity during some of my really bad leg spells.

I have not the faintest idea why hot & humid bothers me in the Carribean but not here. Maybe because in the south it is hot & humid all the time, while I only exercise for about two hours at a time - alternating with a regular swimming pool - and the rest of the time I am in the regular Edmonton air which is usually pretty dry. And often very cold!

Anyhow, I would recommend that some of you - very carefully of course - try out a whirlpool. Just giving it a careful try shouldn't hurt anything, and maybe it might help. Everybody is not the same of course - I have PPMS - but odds are if it helps me, it probably might help somebody else too.

Don't just ask your Dr. - the automatic answer is stay away from heat & humidity - actually test it out for yourself. You are the only one who knows how you really feel when you do something.

But just because all the experts say that hot & humid is bad for all MSrs doesn't make it so. Cause here I am, living (I think) proof.

But I repeat - BE CAREFUL.

Tom from Edmonton

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Hot tubs......definitely a "NO" for an ms'er.

Regards,

Tom

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From: Reg Kreil

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Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:18 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

By all means try the hot tub! But by the same token have someone monitor you, One night this spring I went into the hotsprings at "Smalltown" British Columbia.and if it wasn't for my wife telling me to get the heck out I probably would have had quite a happening.I was allready red as a lobster and didn't know it!

I just about couldn't walk when I left the water and I had only been in for about ten minutes. While in the water with it bouying me up I could stand really well.

It was a good thing it was April and still quite cool that night so I recovered fairly fast, or it would have been scary.

Thinking about passing out in a hotsprings or tub is just about scary.

Reg.

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From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 08/03/04 18:14:53

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Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

I don't believe it is specifically the heat and humidity. I think there is something else, barometric pressure perhaps?, that adds to the problem. I still take long hot soaks in the bath, and while I'm weak when I get out I'm not any weaker than I was pre MS after long hot soaks in the tub. And it is only for a few minutes. I'd love to have a big hot tub/whirlpool!

JT

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From: Tom

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Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:41 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

Several years ago I went to the Carribean, and spent about ten days either in agony or drugged out of my gourd. Hot, humid, and horrible!

Yet here at home (Edmonton) I can go in a hot tub and exercise, which I have been doing for about seven years now, and feel wonderful. Sometimes I think it is the only thing that saved my sanity during some of my really bad leg spells.

I have not the faintest idea why hot & humid bothers me in the Carribean but not here. Maybe because in the south it is hot & humid all the time, while I only exercise for about two hours at a time - alternating with a regular swimming pool - and the rest of the time I am in the regular Edmonton air which is usually pretty dry. And often very cold!

Anyhow, I would recommend that some of you - very carefully of course - try out a whirlpool. Just giving it a careful try shouldn't hurt anything, and maybe it might help. Everybody is not the same of course - I have PPMS - but odds are if it helps me, it probably might help somebody else too.

Don't just ask your Dr. - the automatic answer is stay away from heat & humidity - actually test it out for yourself. You are the only one who knows how you really feel when you do something.

But just because all the experts say that hot & humid is bad for all MSrs doesn't make it so. Cause here I am, living (I think) proof.

But I repeat - BE CAREFUL.

Tom from Edmonton

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People probably know about this but I think that one

of the things that really works for me is taking hot

and cold showers. It is one of the most energy

producing valuable techniques I use.

When I take a shower I do it with normal temperature

water ie not too hot, just comfortable. Then I turn it

too cold for 30 seconds or so. Yes it can be

uncomfortable but think of it this way there's no

pain. Then I turn it to hot again until I'm warmed up.

Then I go cold, hot, cold, hot and finish on cold. You

should do it 3x and leave the shower on cold.

This to me is my medicine and I have been doing it

every day for years.

I have grown to love my cold showers and I find the

benefit is second to none. It feels even better if you

can muster up the energy to skin brush first.

Hot and cold showers actually assist the immune system

by moving the lymph of the lymphatic system.

I have read that these hot and cold showers are

equivalent to half an hours exercise which is great

for someone who can't exercise as much as they should

because of poor vision etc.

It also helps move toxicity in the body which can then

be released if the elimination routes are open.

I have just recovered almost completely from a

horrible relapse where I had severe double vision and

nystagmus for one month. I couldn't see my face in the

mirror or the food on my plate. The only thing I had

the ability or the energy to do was the hot and cold

showering and a little bit of rebounding

..

After seeing my neuro and having him try and start me

on Avonex encouraged me not to miss a mornings showers

as there was no way I would take such poison .

Before I turned the water to cold I would just tell my

self 'time for your medicine'.

As I was having terrible fatigue as well I knew that

although I wasn't moving much the showers were doing

it for me.

I also lost my appetite and lost quite lot of weight

which has now returned. However I was using a green

powder I discovered called 'Perfect Food'.

The good news is that I saw my ophalmologist today and

he said he was surprised i had made a recovery as 70%

of people who have what I had don't make a full

recovery. I am 1 in 3.

I am happy because I have lost my vision at least five

times now over the years and I'm waiting for the day

when it doesn't return.

I thank 'Perfect Food', hot and cold showers, flax

oil, lecithin and the avoidance of processed foods and

all the other horrors in our modern day diets.

I also avoid salt as this stays in our cells and makes

them toxic.

I hope this helps those who have had the will to read

this. I swear its helped me! I'm still RRMS.

Please if you suffer from the heat, jump in a cold

shower. It will lower your body temperature for a

while at least.

Audrey

--- Bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:

> Hot tubs......definitely a " NO " for an ms'er.

>

> Regards,

> Tom

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Reg Kreil

> low dose naltrexone

> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:18 PM

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs & stuff

>

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> By all means try the hot tub! But by the

> same token have someone monitor you, One night this

> spring I went into the hotsprings at " Smalltown "

> British Columbia.and if it wasn't for my wife

> telling me to get the heck out I probably would have

> had quite a happening.I was allready red as a

> lobster and didn't know it!

> I just about couldn't walk when I left the

> water and I had only been in for about ten minutes.

> While in the water with it bouying me up I could

> stand really well.

> It was a good thing it was April and still

> quite cool that night so I recovered fairly fast, or

> it would have been scary.

> Thinking about passing out in a hotsprings

> or tub is just about scary.

> Reg.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: low dose naltrexone

> Date: 08/03/04 18:14:53

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs &

> stuff

>

> I don't believe it is specifically the heat

> and humidity. I think there is something else,

> barometric pressure perhaps?, that adds to the

> problem. I still take long hot soaks in the bath,

> and while I'm weak when I get out I'm not any weaker

> than I was pre MS after long hot soaks in the tub.

> And it is only for a few minutes. I'd love to have

> a big hot tub/whirlpool!

>

> JT

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Tom

> low dose naltrexone

> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:41 PM

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Hot tubs &

> stuff

>

>

> Several years ago I went to the Carribean,

> and spent about ten days either in agony or drugged

> out of my gourd. Hot, humid, and horrible!

>

> Yet here at home (Edmonton) I can go in a

> hot tub and exercise, which I have been doing for

> about seven years now, and feel wonderful.

> Sometimes I think it is the only thing that saved my

> sanity during some of my really bad leg spells.

>

> I have not the faintest idea why hot & humid

> bothers me in the Carribean but not here. Maybe

> because in the south it is hot & humid all the time,

> while I only exercise for about two hours at a time

> - alternating with a regular swimming pool - and the

> rest of the time I am in the regular Edmonton air

> which is usually pretty dry. And often very cold!

>

> Anyhow, I would recommend that some of you -

> very carefully of course - try out a whirlpool.

> Just giving it a careful try shouldn't hurt

> anything, and maybe it might help. Everybody is not

> the same of course - I have PPMS - but odds are if

> it helps me, it probably might help somebody else

> too.

>

> Don't just ask your Dr. - the automatic

> answer is stay away from heat & humidity - actually

> test it out for yourself. You are the only one who

> knows how you really feel when you do something.

>

> But just because all the experts say that

> hot & humid is bad for all MSrs doesn't make it so.

> Cause here I am, living (I think) proof.

>

> But I repeat - BE CAREFUL.

>

> Tom from Edmonton

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> IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click

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