Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 In a message dated 8/18/2004 5:11:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jatrac1@... writes: The nausea is a 24 hour event. It is no worse after the med, perhaps a little worse in the morning though. I didn't have nausea, but had a stomach ache almost all the time. I stopped taking all my supps and all the other things (amino acids, etc) I was taking, except my antibiotic for Lyme and LDN. The stomach ache stopped. I am going to start introducing them again to see which one is causing the problem. Are you taking any supplements, or eating something you may be allergic to? Maybe a cause? Just a thought. Arlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 , I will definitely ask Dr. Bihari about that when I see him next week. How soon after taking LDN do you experience the nausea and have you tried taking it with food? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Most who experience nausea taking LDN is having a reation to the filer, not the LDN. I experienced nausea, near vomiting and headache with the filler Avicel. Some have had trouble with Calcium Carbonate and corn starch. Try Lactose(if not allergic) or Acidophilus(perfect for intestinal problems) as your filler and see if all nausea goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 First, the nausea is very mild, not miserable but just annoying. I have tried giving up all supplements and seen no change, and have changed my diet due to the testing. The only thing I haven't done is quit taking LDN. The nausea arrived with the LDN, but is a small price to pay. However, if there is a neat trick to get rid of it I'd sure go for it! Thanks, JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Lactose was my first filler... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bren low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN and nausea Most who experience nausea taking LDN is having a reation to the filer, not the LDN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I used to see a chiropractor / alternative healer, when I was living in New Zealand, his name is Errol Conroy (sp?) and looking back, I feel that he did manage to keep me 'steady'. It was in the early stages after DX so not a great deal of observation was made of what was helping me and what was not, I was still 'walking and talking', so I was seeing him as a general alternative health care provider. Inevitably he would perform a manipulation/correction whenever I saw him to correct damage to my skeletal structure, I am 6'4", formerly worked as a fisherman, builder, truck driver and a few more 'back no-no s'. I now live in Finland and have not seen a chiropractor in years and now in a wheelchair full-time, but now have hope. Thinking of finding another chiropractor here, just wondering if anyone has any thoughts regarding the use of Chiropractors or experience of them. This morning I received a Google News Alert and have pasted it below. I found it very intersting, reading it gave me cause to contemplate. CHIROPRACTIC Correction of Upper Neck Injuries and Multiple ...Newswise (press release) - USA... JVSR --- http://www.jvsr.com), is the first to show that correctionof upper neck injuries may reverse the progression of both Multiple Sclerosis(MS) and ...<http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/506659/> XGRAF PS hearing mistakes can't be that bad, if you never heard them before. This LDN trip is great when you stop and realise that this or that was not possible the other day, everyday stop, smell, see, feel and hear the roses. ----- Original Message ----- From: low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea Reg, I've been afraid to use a chiropractor since diagnosis. I know that I have lesions in my neck, and the idea of someone manipulating my spine rather worries me. Anybody else use chiropractors? By the way, I notice just the day after I took my first dose of LDN that the people in the coffee shop were having conversations, not just murmuring in the background. The I noticed how much more music I could hear. My guitar sounded fuller, I could certainly hear my mistakes better! JT ----- Original Message ----- From: Reg Kreil low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea Just because I can't seem to keep out of things I am writing this as maybe you may get some help here. I know filler has been bashed around a lot so I will leave that out. About two years ago I was having this same condition plus music was "off"it was like listening to an orchistra that was playing under water! Now that was very important to me as I always have appreciated music and it's always playing around me! I just put it off as an M.S. thing but the nausea was real bad and there was no drug available to cure that.Tried Gravol and anything else the docs prescribed but to no avail.However I went to a Chiropracter with a stiff neck (from sleeping wrong or something like that) and after the second adjustment I could shoulder check again while driving without the world going around in circles,and then the music sounded better and I was less dizzy and nauseous. Now I am not pushing Chiropractic on anyone but in my case it was just to coincidental to ignore.I thought you should know. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 08/18/04 15:11:01 low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea The nausea is a 24 hour event. It is no worse after the med, perhaps a little worse in the morning though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Landau low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea , I will definitely ask Dr. Bihari about that when I see him nextweek. How soon after taking LDN do you experience the nausea and haveyou tried taking it with food?________________________________________________________________The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 You're taking LDN? You're going to find a good chiropractor? Be sure to let us know when you're walking again. I was going to this one chiro since 1989. At the height of my exacerbation 3/02 - 5/02, his son graduated chiro school and joined his practice. In April he would sit in and observe his dad work on me, and talk with me, and we were trying to figure things out together. May 17th was the first time he asked if he could adjust me. May 20th I saw the original chiro and he put me on his Extensilizer (few chiros have these). 20 minutes later back at my friend's house I was typing again, without interruption. For 2 months my fingers on my left hand would just freeze over keys for a few moments at a time. On May 20th I felt the 'release' or 'fix', I don't know what to call it, but I felt it. The son's first adjustment 3 days earlier though was different than the father. The son has become my main support, we've been learning MS together, we decided I'd try LDN and at 3.0. The father is great at adjusting me, but he doesn't chat much. The son still, 27 months later, spends time talking with me about what's going on. His adjustments are quite different than his father's. His father is the best I ever found or heard of... until his son graduated and joined his practice. There are still some things he doesn't do though, so sometimes I see him, and then his dad comes in and does his specialty. It's great. My friend said we go see the Father and the Son and they fix our Holy Spirit. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tomasta low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:04 Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea I used to see a chiropractor / alternative healer, when I was living in New Zealand, his name is Errol Conroy (sp?) and looking back, I feel that he did manage to keep me 'steady'. It was in the early stages after DX so not a great deal of observation was made of what was helping me and what was not, I was still 'walking and talking', so I was seeing him as a general alternative health care provider. Inevitably he would perform a manipulation/correction whenever I saw him to correct damage to my skeletal structure, I am 6'4", formerly worked as a fisherman, builder, truck driver and a few more 'back no-no s'. I now live in Finland and have not seen a chiropractor in years and now in a wheelchair full-time, but now have hope. Thinking of finding another chiropractor here, just wondering if anyone has any thoughts regarding the use of Chiropractors or experience of them. This morning I received a Google News Alert and have pasted it below. I found it very intersting, reading it gave me cause to contemplate. CHIROPRACTIC Correction of Upper Neck Injuries and Multiple ...Newswise (press release) - USA... JVSR --- http://www.jvsr.com), is the first to show that correctionof upper neck injuries may reverse the progression of both Multiple Sclerosis(MS) and ...<http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/506659/> XGRAF PS hearing mistakes can't be that bad, if you never heard them before. This LDN trip is great when you stop and realise that this or that was not possible the other day, everyday stop, smell, see, feel and hear the roses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Larry, Been with LDN 45 days, can't say that it has been incredible, but I 'feel' changes and as said you need to stop and reflect on the changes. I have begun to search for a chiropractor, that hopefully speaks English, here in Finland. My physiotherapist should be helpful as well as a few friends. Your 'Father and Son' or more specifically the Son, do they 'specialise' in the way they are practising chiropractic’s? Do not worry, if I get to walk again, you will not have to wait for me to write, I am sure you will hear my whoops of joy XGRAF----- Original Message ----- From: LarryGC low dose naltrexone Cc: MSWatchers Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea You're taking LDN? You're going to find a good chiropractor? Be sure to let us know when you're walking again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 I'll be waiting to hear that! What do you mean 'specialise'? I don't know. But they sure are special! ----- Original Message ----- From: Tomasta low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 13:40 Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea Larry, Been with LDN 45 days, can't say that it has been incredible, but I 'feel' changes and as said you need to stop and reflect on the changes. I have begun to search for a chiropractor, that hopefully speaks English, here in Finland. My physiotherapist should be helpful as well as a few friends. Your 'Father and Son' or more specifically the Son, do they 'specialise' in the way they are practising chiropractic’s? Do not worry, if I get to walk again, you will not have to wait for me to write, I am sure you will hear my whoops of joy XGRAF----- Original Message ----- From: LarryGC low dose naltrexone Cc: MSWatchers Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and nausea You're taking LDN? You're going to find a good chiropractor? Be sure to let us know when you're walking again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Larry, I was referring to the technique they were using I came across a message this morning that mentioned the NUCCA Technique so I did the natural thing and did a search NUCCA is the abbreviation for the National Upper Cervical Chiropractic Association. NUCCA is a speciality within the chiropractic profession. It is a progressive highly advanced procedure that is extremely precise and gentle unlike any other kind of care. This page has a few case studies specifically relating to Multiple Sclerosis treatment using the NUCCA procedure.- http://www.nespinalcare.com/multiple_sclerosis_treatment_d.html There were many further links that resulted from the search. Finally I am wondering if you could ask the 'Father and Son' if this is the technique they (or the Son) are using or if they had heard of it. XGRAF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Sorry for the late reply a. It is quite possibly due to the filler being used - that seems to be a predominant cause of any nausea or stomach problems as far as I can tell from reading about those problems for three and a half years on here. It could also be the naltrexone itself but that's less likely. If it's not too difficult try to get the pharmacist to use a different filler. Where are you getting the LDN compounded and what filler are they using? Fran wrote: > Has anyone experienced Nausea in the morning..lasting most of the day......while taking > LDN? or do i need to be suspecting something else in my diet/meds? > > thanks > a in orlando > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 a, this is . I switches fillers from lactose to avicel, and now am experiencing stomach upset every morning and nausea. I would say it's the filler. I have the transdermal ldn on the way, and I can't wait to try it. What filler are you using now? keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 This is keith. I just switched to an avicel filler for my LDN, because I had been using Lactose filler for the past year with really no results to report, plus I'm allegic to dairy and lactose intolerant, but it never upset my stomach.Now using avicel I have stomach upset every morning for the last week and a half.Will it go away? Should I keep using it? Thanks keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 > > This is keith. I just switched to an avicel filler for > my LDN, because I had been using Lactose filler for > the past year with really no results to report, plus > I'm allegic to dairy and lactose intolerant, but it > never upset my stomach.Now using avicel I have stomach > upset every morning for the last week and a half.Will > it go away? Should I keep using it? Thanks > keith >========== For me it never went away and I stuck it out nearly an entire month. Start following Dr. McCandless' diet protocol and do as much detox as you can. Try to get your diet as alkaline as possible, you may even want to try juicing. You may have yeasts/mold/etc that is preventing the LDN from killing off cancer. You may want to look into Dr. Burt Berkson's intravenous alpha lipoic acid treatment he uses with pancreatic cancer patients along with the LDN protocol. Contact me privately for Berkson's email contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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