Re: GERD ie heartburn from Hell

[Guest guest]

I get severe chest pains from acid reflux. My Pulmo stated that the

majority of asthma sufferers also have GERD, and it can cause an

asthma attack. My research via the web also indicates the same

conclusion.

My Pulmo prescribed Reglan and Prevacid, it helps.

On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:46 AM, mister_manganese wrote:

> I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

> asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

> supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

> have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

>

> Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

> taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

> getting the GERD under control?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is interesting that you should bring GERD up at this time. When I first

began having asthma, my allergist told me to take TUMS from time to time and at

the time there was an antiacid gum (can't remember the name.) Over the years I

did that. Seven years ago I went to the ER thinking I might be having a heart

attack. Not only did the doctor tell put me on an antiacid, but showed me a

huge hernia that I had that had shown up on my x-rays. I knew I had a hernia,

but didn't know it was so big!

My Internist put me on Aciphex once a day. About two years ago my allergist

heard me clearing my throat and coughing (but the gunk was all in my throat) and

he put me on nexium 2 times a day. This last week when I went back, he added

Zantac--two tabs before I go to bed. We finally raised the head of our bed and

I have finally realized I am going to have to watch my diet very carefully. I

also have to see a gastro (whatever) surgeon. But next week I see my Internist

so he will probably order the upper GI for me again--same one I had done about

six years ago.

Bottom line--has it helped to curb some of my asthma to take the medicine for

it? Yes, for the most part, although if I eat too fast or eat some types of

bread, and don't chew my food really well, I have some problems--including

breathing.

Yes, from what I've read, GERD and asthma seem to go together. My hiatal

hernia is hereditary--my mom has had one since she was in her early fifties and

is now 92. She has learned over the years to be careful what she eats.

There are excellent web sites for GERD and there are suggested diets--what to

eat, what not to eat, when to eat, and other things you can do to help yourself.

This is probably more than you wanted to know!

Be sure to talk to your doctor, though. I'm sure he will want to make sure

that it is not your heart!

The xolair has helped tremendously with the allergies....but I have had some

difficulty with the GERD recently.

Let us know what happens.

Adah

mister_manganese <mister_manganese@...> wrote:

I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

getting the GERD under control?

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[Guest guest]

Hope everyone is in the process of feeling better with Xolair, if not

already better!

My allergist from the University Hospitals in the Cleveland Ohio area

told me not to take TUMS for my GERD. He said it makes it worse. I

am unsure of this but I take Tums occasionally as a calcium

supplement.

When I was carrying my daughter 8.5 years ago, Carafate helped me

tremendously.

I take Nexium but getting just average results. (Maybe I am not

taking it correctly. I think I want to give Carafate another chance.)

These are my experiences, and of course, one specific antacid may not

work for everyone all the time. Just thought i could give my .02

cents.

Good luck to all.

GM

> I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my

chest and

> asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

> supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

> have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

>

> Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

> taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

> getting the GERD under control?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have both GERD and asthma and GERD meds are an absolutely essential

part of my asthma management. However, making the leap from " pains in

my chest " to a diagnosis of GERD is potentially very dangerous. You

absolutely need to see your primary about these pains for an evaluation

to be sure you don't have serious heart disease. This could save your

life! If it turns out your heart is healthy (let's hope), then you can

explore the possibility that the pains are due to GERD.

Please don't let this go!!!

Fran

>

> I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

> asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

> supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

> have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

>

> Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

> taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

> getting the GERD under control?

>

[Guest guest]

Yo, Man - I've had GERD for many years. It's easily kept under control with

several drugs. I use Aciphex, which is more than $3 per tablet if you buy it in

U.S., but is far less from or through Canada. Milder forms of GERD can be

controlled with over-the-counter drugs like Prilosec and Pepcid (generic version

available from Walmart cheap). GERD can really exacerbate or create asthma

symptoms. What's worse, if untreated, it can result in cancer of the esophagus,

which is fairly unpleasant. I used to have heartburn so bad I couldn't swallow

at times. Eventually, it created significant scar tissue in my esophagus which

made it difficult to swallow, resulting in my having to have my esophagus

stretched every couple of years (a simple procedure done during an endoscopy).

Have it checked out, Man.

Ohldepharte - a.k.a. Terry

----- Original Message -----

From: mister_manganese

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:46 AM

Subject: [ ] GERD ie heartburn from Hell

I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

getting the GERD under control?

[Guest guest]

Adah - with Aciphex I can eat whatever I want whenever I want, whereas before

Aciphex, I had to avoid a variety of foods and not eat later in the evening -

otherwise I got to enjoy some of the meal twice as it popped back up from my

hiatal hernia. About the only thing that fires me up now is eating a 16 " pizza

with a sixpack of beer at 10 P.M. Raising the head of the bed really helped

also - I notice the difference in motels.

Terry

----- Original Message -----

From: Adah Voigt

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] GERD ie heartburn from Hell

It is interesting that you should bring GERD up at this time. When I first

began having asthma, my allergist told me to take TUMS from time to time and at

the time there was an antiacid gum (can't remember the name.) Over the years I

did that. Seven years ago I went to the ER thinking I might be having a heart

attack. Not only did the doctor tell put me on an antiacid, but showed me a huge

hernia that I had that had shown up on my x-rays. I knew I had a hernia, but

didn't know it was so big!

My Internist put me on Aciphex once a day. About two years ago my allergist

heard me clearing my throat and coughing (but the gunk was all in my throat) and

he put me on nexium 2 times a day. This last week when I went back, he added

Zantac--two tabs before I go to bed. We finally raised the head of our bed and I

have finally realized I am going to have to watch my diet very carefully. I also

have to see a gastro (whatever) surgeon. But next week I see my Internist so he

will probably order the upper GI for me again--same one I had done about six

years ago.

Bottom line--has it helped to curb some of my asthma to take the medicine for

it? Yes, for the most part, although if I eat too fast or eat some types of

bread, and don't chew my food really well, I have some problems--including

breathing.

Yes, from what I've read, GERD and asthma seem to go together. My hiatal

hernia is hereditary--my mom has had one since she was in her early fifties and

is now 92. She has learned over the years to be careful what she eats.

There are excellent web sites for GERD and there are suggested diets--what to

eat, what not to eat, when to eat, and other things you can do to help yourself.

This is probably more than you wanted to know!

Be sure to talk to your doctor, though. I'm sure he will want to make sure

that it is not your heart!

The xolair has helped tremendously with the allergies....but I have had some

difficulty with the GERD recently.

Let us know what happens.

Adah

mister_manganese <mister_manganese@...> wrote:

I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

getting the GERD under control?

---------------------------------

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

[Guest guest]

GM - correctamundo - Tums may have a brief, temporary relief effect, but they

result in the production of more acid, so the problem gets worse. Drugs like

Aciphex, acid inhibitors, reduce the production of acid so it doesn't come up

from yer tummy like a geyser and burn, baby, burn.

Terry

----- Original Message -----

From: gmelkote

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:15 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: GERD ie heartburn from Hell

Hope everyone is in the process of feeling better with Xolair, if not

already better!

My allergist from the University Hospitals in the Cleveland Ohio area

told me not to take TUMS for my GERD. He said it makes it worse. I

am unsure of this but I take Tums occasionally as a calcium

supplement.

When I was carrying my daughter 8.5 years ago, Carafate helped me

tremendously.

I take Nexium but getting just average results. (Maybe I am not

taking it correctly. I think I want to give Carafate another chance.)

These are my experiences, and of course, one specific antacid may not

work for everyone all the time. Just thought i could give my .02

cents.

Good luck to all.

GM

> I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my

chest and

> asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

> supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

> have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

>

> Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

> taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

> getting the GERD under control?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I checked the label on one of the proton inhibitors (on more than

one, actually, but can't remember the names of them now) that I was

supposed to take to ward off allergic reaction to iodine for a

catscan.

One ingredient I noticed was an artificial sweetner or at least a

chemical related to artificial sweetners. Those really give me

crampy diarrhea. Unfortunately, those chemicals are found in a lot

of meds - especially the liquid types.

My doctor told me the best treatment for heartburn is water - lots

and lots of plain old water. For people w/special needs - pregnancy,

hernia, etc. I'm sure there's more that's needed, though.

--- In , " Terry " <onabeach@...>

wrote:

>

> GM - correctamundo - Tums may have a brief, temporary relief

effect, but they result in the production of more acid, so the

problem gets worse. Drugs like Aciphex, acid inhibitors, reduce the

production of acid so it doesn't come up from yer tummy like a geyser

and burn, baby, burn.

>

> Terry

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: gmelkote

>

> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:15 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: GERD ie heartburn from Hell

>

>

> I take Nexium but getting just average results. (Maybe I am not

> taking it correctly. I think I want to give Carafate another

chance.)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I take Aciphex to for GERD, it works better then all the other drugs, Asmatics

have GERD because of the sprays we use.

Kathy

Terry <onabeach@...> wrote:

Yo, Man - I've had GERD for many years. It's easily kept under control

with several drugs. I use Aciphex, which is more than $3 per tablet if you buy

it in U.S., but is far less from or through Canada. Milder forms of GERD can be

controlled with over-the-counter drugs like Prilosec and Pepcid (generic version

available from Walmart cheap). GERD can really exacerbate or create asthma

symptoms. What's worse, if untreated, it can result in cancer of the esophagus,

which is fairly unpleasant. I used to have heartburn so bad I couldn't swallow

at times. Eventually, it created significant scar tissue in my esophagus which

made it difficult to swallow, resulting in my having to have my esophagus

stretched every couple of years (a simple procedure done during an endoscopy).

Have it checked out, Man.

Ohldepharte - a.k.a. Terry

----- Original Message -----

From: mister_manganese

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:46 AM

Subject: [ ] GERD ie heartburn from Hell

I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

getting the GERD under control?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've been on Prevacid (30mg, 2xday) since starting prolonged

prednisone use in July 2005. It works great for me, in fact when I

was admitted to a hospital at one point, after I had been using

Prevacid, the hospital's drug formulary for PPI's (Proton Pump

Inhibitors - GERD medicine) was Protonix, which did absolutely

nothing for me. I noticed a significant change in my heartburn just a

couple hours after the nurse gave me my first dose. My pulmo made the

case to the hospital pharmacy that I needed to be on Prevacid, not

Protonix, and I was immediately switched back.

Prevacid works well for me but when I get a REALLY bad

bronchitis, pneumonia, or a whopper of a sinus infection, my

pulmo/allergist puts me on Clindamycin, which is basically a super

antibiotic. It kills the infection, but it kills my stomach at the

same time. My pulmo knows I hate Clinda, so he only prescribes it

after we've tried some other antibiotic, and to protect my stomach,

he has me take 1 Pepto Bismol Tablet (in addition to the Prevacid

2x/day) with each dose of the Clinda (4x/day), which lessens Clinda's

effects on my stomach.

I also get burning in my chest when I am coming down with/ have

a bronchitis or pneumonia. It's actually a way I can tell if my SOB

is an asthma-flare or infection. I don't know if other people get

this, but my pulmo thinks it's that the infection causes the GERD to

worsen, I don't necessarily agree, regardless of what it is, it more

than likely means I've got bronchitis or pneumonia. Thank God I don't

get it that often, as it is not fun at all, I've only experienced

this burning 4 times - 3 were pneumonias and 1 was bronchitis.

Just incase anyone's interested, the internet address at the and

of this paragraph, is a YouTube video of my pulmonologist/allergist,

Dr. Marcus, talking about how GERD can mimic asthma, but they often

coexist. He kinda sounds arrogant in the video, but he's not like

that in real life and the video is informative.

Meagan

> Yo, Man - I've had GERD for many years. It's easily kept

under control with several drugs. I use Aciphex, which is more than

$3 per tablet if you buy it in U.S., but is far less from or through

Canada. Milder forms of GERD can be controlled with over-the-counter

drugs like Prilosec and Pepcid (generic version available from

Walmart cheap). GERD can really exacerbate or create asthma symptoms.

What's worse, if untreated, it can result in cancer of the esophagus,

which is fairly unpleasant. I used to have heartburn so bad I

couldn't swallow at times. Eventually, it created significant scar

tissue in my esophagus which made it difficult to swallow, resulting

in my having to have my esophagus stretched every couple of years (a

simple procedure done during an endoscopy). Have it checked out, Man.

>

> Ohldepharte - a.k.a. Terry

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: mister_manganese

>

> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:46 AM

> Subject: [ ] GERD ie heartburn from Hell

>

> I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

> asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

> supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

> have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

>

> Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

> taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

> getting the GERD under control?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Its funny here in Australia Prilosec or Losec as we call it isn't a

supermarket brand but a prescription drug and costs around $26.00 a

month, our supermarket brands are Mylanta and Gaviscon, my daughter who

is 16 now was taking Mylanta from 6 months till she was 6yo then Zantac

up until she turned 15yo and now she is taking a 20mg Losec capsule per

day.

When her specialist put her on Losec she said it works better than

Zantac but quite frankly it works the same and Cheyenne still has GERD

every day, what annoys me is that we don't always get the same good

drugs you get in America and I really hate seeing her with so much chest

pain every day.

Simone

> > Yo, Man - I've had GERD for many years. It's easily kept

> under control with several drugs. I use Aciphex, which is more than

> $3 per tablet if you buy it in U.S., but is far less from or through

> Canada. Milder forms of GERD can be controlled with over-the-counter

> drugs like Prilosec and Pepcid (generic version available from

> Walmart cheap). GERD can really exacerbate or create asthma symptoms.

> What's worse, if untreated, it can result in cancer of the esophagus,

> which is fairly unpleasant. I used to have heartburn so bad I

> couldn't swallow at times. Eventually, it created significant scar

> tissue in my esophagus which made it difficult to swallow, resulting

> in my having to have my esophagus stretched every couple of years (a

> simple procedure done during an endoscopy). Have it checked out, Man.

> >

> > Ohldepharte - a.k.a. Terry

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: mister_manganese

> >

> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:46 AM

> > Subject: [ ] GERD ie heartburn from Hell

> >

> > I've got suspicions that the pain I sometimes feel in my chest and

> > asthma fits that follow it is stomach acid getting where it isn't

> > supposed to be. Then I read that a lot of asthmatic sufferers also

> > have this GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease).

> >

> > Anyone with this GERD problem wish to elaborate a little? Like does

> > taking some meds for it help and can you tame down your asthma by

> > getting the GERD under control?

> >

> >