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That was one ignorant and poorly trained RN. Sorry to hear you're

having the miseries - feel better soon. Just wondering - do use

Astelin as one of your nasal sprays? If not, as your doc to add it to

your meds. It's an antihistamine that goes right to the source in

nasal allergies. I use it a lot for my chronically itchy nose (and

gee, I'm on Xolair - tell THAT to that RN!LOL) and especially for

flareups. For me those flareups these days come mainly on rainy days

due to mold spores, my biggest nemesis of many big nemeses.

>

> the RN was an interesting lady today.

> She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor the

> allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

back

> and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more today,

so I

> will have to wait out the night.

>

> I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

she's

> overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

>

> take care all

>

> ~Sniffles :-\

>

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My doctor prescribed Nasonex AND Astelin. He told me that they take care of two

different problems. He gave them to me when I had a coughing event for about

three weeks. My GP had also given me Astelin several years ago when my ears

were stopped up after an International flight. It really helped that, too. I

try to keep Astelin on hand.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote:

That was one ignorant and poorly trained RN. Sorry to hear you're

having the miseries - feel better soon. Just wondering - do use

Astelin as one of your nasal sprays? If not, as your doc to add it to

your meds. It's an antihistamine that goes right to the source in

nasal allergies. I use it a lot for my chronically itchy nose (and

gee, I'm on Xolair - tell THAT to that RN!LOL) and especially for

flareups. For me those flareups these days come mainly on rainy days

due to mold spores, my biggest nemesis of many big nemeses.

>

> the RN was an interesting lady today.

> She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor the

> allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

back

> and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more today,

so I

> will have to wait out the night.

>

> I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

she's

> overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

>

> take care all

>

> ~Sniffles :-\

>

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Interesting you should mention Astelin. It's among the myriad of nasal sprays

I've tried over the last 50 years that didn't really work. The worst, of

course, being anything with oxymetazoline in it. That stuff is nasty. I was

spraying it probably 10 - 20 times a day until an allergist told me about it and

gradually weaned me off it. Talk about evil stuff. Eventually, I found an ENT

guy who said my problem was not so much allergies as chronic sinusitis, and

we've been treating that ever since. I have a 912 Ege level, hence the Xolair,

but the real buggaboo is my sinuses. Alas.

OP

----- Original Message -----

From: tiredofsteroids

Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:44 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: alleriges

That was one ignorant and poorly trained RN. Sorry to hear you're

having the miseries - feel better soon. Just wondering - do use

Astelin as one of your nasal sprays? If not, as your doc to add it to

your meds. It's an antihistamine that goes right to the source in

nasal allergies. I use it a lot for my chronically itchy nose (and

gee, I'm on Xolair - tell THAT to that RN!LOL) and especially for

flareups. For me those flareups these days come mainly on rainy days

due to mold spores, my biggest nemesis of many big nemeses.

>

> the RN was an interesting lady today.

> She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor the

> allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

back

> and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more today,

so I

> will have to wait out the night.

>

> I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

she's

> overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

>

> take care all

>

> ~Sniffles :-\

>

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Right, Nasonex is a steroid and Astelin is an antihistamine, so they

attack nasal allergies from two different directions. - Fran

> >

> > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

the

> > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> back

> > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

today,

> so I

> > will have to wait out the night.

> >

> > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> she's

> > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> >

> > take care all

> >

> > ~Sniffles :-\

> >

>

>

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Thanks, Fran. I think I remember that is what he said. Also, he told me to use

them only twice a day. I would think the body (nose in particular) might become

immune to the Astelin if it was used too much????? At any rate, I have always

been afraid of nose sprays since I had a friend years ago who became addicted to

a nasal spray and the doctor had to wean her off of it. That sort of did it for

me. I have used an over the counter nasal spray at the instruction of my

doctor, but he told me to use it for three or four days and then stop.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote: Right, Nasonex is a steroid

and Astelin is an antihistamine, so they

attack nasal allergies from two different directions. - Fran

> >

> > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

the

> > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> back

> > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

today,

> so I

> > will have to wait out the night.

> >

> > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> she's

> > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> >

> > take care all

> >

> > ~Sniffles :-\

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Adah - chances are the nasal spray to which you refer was one containing

oxymetazoline (Afrin) which is very effective. I discovered its dangers many

years ago when I started using it and it worked so well I kept on using it,

eventually carrying it with me at all times and spraying maybe every half hour

or so to keep my nasal passages open. Back then, I don't know whether or not

the container had the warning label about not using the stuff more than about

five days, but if it did, I ignored it completely and used it months on end.

The result, according to the doc, was an ever-increasing rebound effect that

made my condition increasingly worse. I had to be gradually weaned off the

stuff. A few weeks ago, I was at Duke Univ. Hosp for a look into my infected

sinuses, and just before they shoved the camera thingy up my nose, they sprayed

Afrin in - it worked perfectly and kept my passages open for hours, but now I

know enough not to use it further.

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: Adah Voigt

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: alleriges

Thanks, Fran. I think I remember that is what he said. Also, he told me to use

them only twice a day. I would think the body (nose in particular) might become

immune to the Astelin if it was used too much????? At any rate, I have always

been afraid of nose sprays since I had a friend years ago who became addicted to

a nasal spray and the doctor had to wean her off of it. That sort of did it for

me. I have used an over the counter nasal spray at the instruction of my doctor,

but he told me to use it for three or four days and then stop.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote: Right, Nasonex is a steroid and

Astelin is an antihistamine, so they

attack nasal allergies from two different directions. - Fran

> >

> > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

the

> > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> back

> > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

today,

> so I

> > will have to wait out the night.

> >

> > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> she's

> > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> >

> > take care all

> >

> > ~Sniffles :-\

> >

>

>

>

>

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Terry: You are so right--it was Afrin! I think sometimes my brain just shorts

out! I was very cautious about using it as my doctor really scared

me--especially after having a friend who had been so dependent on nasal spray!

Thanks for reminding me. Glad you responded well to it this last time.

I have had some drainage and stuffiness but the nasacort and astelin seem to

work. Again, I am very cautious, though when using them. I did find that I

could use something like Ocean Spray at any time and it seemed to help with

stuffiness as well. I have a sample of one of the salt water sinus rinses, but

everytime I read the label and instructions I get cold feet. I have had stopped

up ears and am a little afraid for that reason. Probably wouldn't hurt me,

though.

HOpe you get some relief from the sinusitis.

Adah

Terry <onabeach@...> wrote:

Adah - chances are the nasal spray to which you refer was one

containing oxymetazoline (Afrin) which is very effective. I discovered its

dangers many years ago when I started using it and it worked so well I kept on

using it, eventually carrying it with me at all times and spraying maybe every

half hour or so to keep my nasal passages open. Back then, I don't know whether

or not the container had the warning label about not using the stuff more than

about five days, but if it did, I ignored it completely and used it months on

end. The result, according to the doc, was an ever-increasing rebound effect

that made my condition increasingly worse. I had to be gradually weaned off the

stuff. A few weeks ago, I was at Duke Univ. Hosp for a look into my infected

sinuses, and just before they shoved the camera thingy up my nose, they sprayed

Afrin in - it worked perfectly and kept my passages open for hours, but now I

know enough not to use it further.

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: Adah Voigt

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: alleriges

Thanks, Fran. I think I remember that is what he said. Also, he told me to use

them only twice a day. I would think the body (nose in particular) might become

immune to the Astelin if it was used too much????? At any rate, I have always

been afraid of nose sprays since I had a friend years ago who became addicted to

a nasal spray and the doctor had to wean her off of it. That sort of did it for

me. I have used an over the counter nasal spray at the instruction of my doctor,

but he told me to use it for three or four days and then stop.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote: Right, Nasonex is a steroid and

Astelin is an antihistamine, so they

attack nasal allergies from two different directions. - Fran

> >

> > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

the

> > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> back

> > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

today,

> so I

> > will have to wait out the night.

> >

> > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> she's

> > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> >

> > take care all

> >

> > ~Sniffles :-\

> >

>

>

>

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Just a little thing, but we have perpetuated the misspelling of allergies in the

subject line!

Being a retired English teacher, I noticed--but I really thought someone else

might catch it. I've smiled everytime I've seen it Wonder if someone has a

definition for alleriges? Maybe the wrinkles on the sides and top of the nose

caused by the upward stroke of the palm of the hand on the nose when it itches ?

Adah Voigt <asthmatic50@...> wrote:

Thanks, Fran. I think I remember that is what he said. Also, he told

me to use them only twice a day. I would think the body (nose in particular)

might become immune to the Astelin if it was used too much????? At any rate, I

have always been afraid of nose sprays since I had a friend years ago who became

addicted to a nasal spray and the doctor had to wean her off of it. That sort of

did it for me. I have used an over the counter nasal spray at the instruction of

my doctor, but he told me to use it for three or four days and then stop.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote: Right, Nasonex is a steroid and

Astelin is an antihistamine, so they

attack nasal allergies from two different directions. - Fran

> >

> > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

the

> > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> back

> > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

today,

> so I

> > will have to wait out the night.

> >

> > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> she's

> > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> >

> > take care all

> >

> > ~Sniffles :-\

> >

>

>

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Well, I'm currently ending my first week of daily antibiotic infusion of

Cefepime thru my jolly pic line for one of my various sinus infections - only

five more weeks to go - taking cipro and another oral antibiotic for pseudomonas

and one other infection up there. That's why I'm concerned about the 20% of

Xolair users who develop upper respiratory infections - seems like I abound with

them. If I could get rid of the infections, I'd gladly give up Xolair and deal

with the asthma, especially now that I know it's caused by sinus inflamation.

It's too bad there is so much uncertainty and confusion about what causes what

and what should be treated by what. I've got an infectious disease control doc

here who doesn't agree with the ENT doc at Duke who doesn't agree with my

primary here. Sheeeesh!!

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: Adah Voigt

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: alleriges

Terry: You are so right--it was Afrin! I think sometimes my brain just shorts

out! I was very cautious about using it as my doctor really scared

me--especially after having a friend who had been so dependent on nasal spray!

Thanks for reminding me. Glad you responded well to it this last time.

I have had some drainage and stuffiness but the nasacort and astelin seem to

work. Again, I am very cautious, though when using them. I did find that I could

use something like Ocean Spray at any time and it seemed to help with stuffiness

as well. I have a sample of one of the salt water sinus rinses, but everytime I

read the label and instructions I get cold feet. I have had stopped up ears and

am a little afraid for that reason. Probably wouldn't hurt me, though.

HOpe you get some relief from the sinusitis.

Adah

Terry <onabeach@...> wrote:

Adah - chances are the nasal spray to which you refer was one containing

oxymetazoline (Afrin) which is very effective. I discovered its dangers many

years ago when I started using it and it worked so well I kept on using it,

eventually carrying it with me at all times and spraying maybe every half hour

or so to keep my nasal passages open. Back then, I don't know whether or not the

container had the warning label about not using the stuff more than about five

days, but if it did, I ignored it completely and used it months on end. The

result, according to the doc, was an ever-increasing rebound effect that made my

condition increasingly worse. I had to be gradually weaned off the stuff. A few

weeks ago, I was at Duke Univ. Hosp for a look into my infected sinuses, and

just before they shoved the camera thingy up my nose, they sprayed Afrin in - it

worked perfectly and kept my passages open for hours, but now I know enough not

to use it further.

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: Adah Voigt

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: alleriges

Thanks, Fran. I think I remember that is what he said. Also, he told me to use

them only twice a day. I would think the body (nose in particular) might become

immune to the Astelin if it was used too much????? At any rate, I have always

been afraid of nose sprays since I had a friend years ago who became addicted to

a nasal spray and the doctor had to wean her off of it. That sort of did it for

me. I have used an over the counter nasal spray at the instruction of my doctor,

but he told me to use it for three or four days and then stop.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote: Right, Nasonex is a steroid and

Astelin is an antihistamine, so they

attack nasal allergies from two different directions. - Fran

> >

> > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high today.

> > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

the

> > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> back

> > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

today,

> so I

> > will have to wait out the night.

> >

> > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> she's

> > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> >

> > take care all

> >

> > ~Sniffles :-\

> >

>

>

>

>

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Hi Adah - Not all nasal sprays are alike. The type of nasal spray you

can become " addicted " to is decongestant spray like Afrin and Neo-

Synephrine. It's not a true addiction like to narcotics. Instead what

happens is if you use them longer than about 3 days and then stop

when you feel better, you can have rebound nasal congestion due to

your nose just having adjusted to having the medication.

But - if you need these meds, you need them and they can be extremely

helpful in the super-congested and painful days of a sinus infection,

especially if you can't take oral decongestants or they're not

effective. You just have to know that when you eventually stop this

type of spray, you may feel congested again but if you just wait it

out, understanding what's happening, the sensation goes away within a

day or so. I learned this not in my medical training but from my ENT

in the days when I had very frequent, very severe sinus infections

that didn't respond to the usual antibiotics. Many docs are simply

not aware that there's a way to use these meds safely and

effectively, it just takes patient education.

And it's not impossible, I suppose, that you might become " immune " to

Astelin after using it steadily for a length of time but I've been

using it for many years and it's always very effective and, just like

Addy said, often immediately. It's really a great med with only rare

side effects.

Fran

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Adah, do you know that we call the motion you described the " rabbit

sign " in medicine? Because, of course, when you do it you make your

nose look like a little bunny's nose. It's one of the clinical clues

that the patient may be suffering from allergies. Honest, it's true!!!

LOL

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Terry - I'm so sorry you're having such a tough time. As I've

mentioned to you in the past, I spent many years in exactly your

position, including many hospitalizations for weeks at a time of IV

antibiotics before the days of home IVs. I had so many major sinus

surgeries that I now have basically one large cavity back there with

all the linings removed(sorry if that's TMI for some of you) That

still didn't do it. I finally had a very detailed and thorough

immunology work-up by a medical school immunologist who figured out

that I had an unusual type of antibody deficiency. I did much better

after that because I started receiving monthy IV infusion of

antibodies (IVIG). Can't remember for sure whether you've had that

extensive an immunology workup but if not, it's well worth it. Hope

you feel better soon.

Fran

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour,

nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a

call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area

that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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P.S. - not sure if I explained it well enough before, but the 20% of

Xolair users getting respiratory infections was no different than the

percentage of placebo test subjects getting respiratory infections.

IMHO, it's not the Xolair. -Fran

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour,

nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a

call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area

that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Now that you mention the neosynepherine, I think that is what my friend had

overused. It did take her a while to become accustomed to not using it all the

time.

Thank you for the information. I do know that in the early years when I used

the Afrin I got relief almost immediately and I do now with the Astelin. Our

group is very fortunate to have you as a member, not only for your medical

expertise, but for your experiences as well. I, for one, look forward to the

times you share your knowledge with us.

Hope you are having really good days--Yesterday was not a terribly good day

for me. I found myself using my inhaler a little more than usual. (Of course I

have not been using it all some days, so even to use it once would be more than

usual). Lots of stuff in the dry air yesterday. But today, aside from an itchy

nose, I am feeling good again. I really appreciate the days when I feel super

good and get a lot accomplished. Didn't have too many of these days at all

before xolair.

Have a great week all--should be an exciting Super Bowl game--and I am a

Dallas Cowboy fan.....sorry folks.....I would like to see the Giants win, simply

because I am usually for the underdog.

Adah

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote:

Hi Adah - Not all nasal sprays are alike. The type of nasal spray you

can become " addicted " to is decongestant spray like Afrin and Neo-

Synephrine. It's not a true addiction like to narcotics. Instead what

happens is if you use them longer than about 3 days and then stop

when you feel better, you can have rebound nasal congestion due to

your nose just having adjusted to having the medication.

But - if you need these meds, you need them and they can be extremely

helpful in the super-congested and painful days of a sinus infection,

especially if you can't take oral decongestants or they're not

effective. You just have to know that when you eventually stop this

type of spray, you may feel congested again but if you just wait it

out, understanding what's happening, the sensation goes away within a

day or so. I learned this not in my medical training but from my ENT

in the days when I had very frequent, very severe sinus infections

that didn't respond to the usual antibiotics. Many docs are simply

not aware that there's a way to use these meds safely and

effectively, it just takes patient education.

And it's not impossible, I suppose, that you might become " immune " to

Astelin after using it steadily for a length of time but I've been

using it for many years and it's always very effective and, just like

Addy said, often immediately. It's really a great med with only rare

side effects.

Fran

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

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I believe. I have watched my little 4 year old granddaughter rub her nose that

way! I find myself doing that when my nose is really itchy--like today.

tiredofsteroids <sitesee@...> wrote: Adah, do you know that we

call the motion you described the " rabbit

sign " in medicine? Because, of course, when you do it you make your

nose look like a little bunny's nose. It's one of the clinical clues

that the patient may be suffering from allergies. Honest, it's true!!!

LOL

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour, nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Fran - yes, a while back you mentioned the similarities of our plights and

suggested a test - I don't recall the name, but I mentioned it to my primary

care doc and he had it run. I was in the normal range, albeit on the low side,

but I may press him to refer me to an immunologist at Duke - I don't think we

have any locally, even though we're the medical center for S.E. NC. On the

other hand, maybe I'll just buy a few gallons of Hadacol if I can find any.

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: tiredofsteroids

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:35 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: alleriges

Hi Terry - I'm so sorry you're having such a tough time. As I've

mentioned to you in the past, I spent many years in exactly your

position, including many hospitalizations for weeks at a time of IV

antibiotics before the days of home IVs. I had so many major sinus

surgeries that I now have basically one large cavity back there with

all the linings removed(sorry if that's TMI for some of you) That

still didn't do it. I finally had a very detailed and thorough

immunology work-up by a medical school immunologist who figured out

that I had an unusual type of antibody deficiency. I did much better

after that because I started receiving monthy IV infusion of

antibodies (IVIG). Can't remember for sure whether you've had that

extensive an immunology workup but if not, it's well worth it. Hope

you feel better soon.

Fran

> > >

> > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

today.

> > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour,

nor

> the

> > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a

call

> > back

> > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> today,

> > so I

> > > will have to wait out the night.

> > >

> > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area

that

> > she's

> > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > >

> > > take care all

> > >

> > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Terry, I think that it would be great for you to get checked out

by a Duke immunologist. If you're right there, they can do tests that

can't even be sent from a distance. Hope you're feeling better.

Fran

> > > >

> > > > the RN was an interesting lady today.

> > > > She said since I am on Xolair I should not have a flare up.

> > > > Tell that to my allergies. Pine and Cypress tress are high

> today.

> > > > I am suffering badly. Can't take the nose spray every hour,

> nor

> > the

> > > > allegra. Yet, I am feeling lousy. I left 2 more VM's for a

> call

> > > back

> > > > and have heard NADA. now it's 5PM, won't hear anything more

> > today,

> > > so I

> > > > will have to wait out the night.

> > > >

> > > > I am assuming there are many allergy sufferers in my area

> that

> > > she's

> > > > overwhelmed, but her response was not necessary.

> > > >

> > > > take care all

> > > >

> > > > ~Sniffles :-\

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > Search.

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