Re: Bronchitis - Hard to breathe laying down

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry you are having such difficulties. Hope you get to feeling better

really soon.

instdesgn1 <instdesgn1@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone ~~~~

I have managed to come down with something - virus or bacteria -

that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to throat, mouth,

and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual pattern which is

head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so bad (not pleasant

but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough! I feel almost like

I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear my lungs squeaking

away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for the fun of it!

On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me but my

albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held inhaler.

My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the emergency room

but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I noticed that a

big meal makes matters worse.

I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there anything

else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help any ?

(not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem so a

pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which are

irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are

getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still

breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that

antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-date med

will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time bug

season!

[Guest guest]

I'm no doctor, but I really think you need to get to yours ASAP. I spent a

month on strict bed rest just after Thanksgiving and before Christmas with

very bad pneumonia. I thought I just had bronchitis and I couldn't have

been more off the mark! I didn't make a big ENOUGH deal out of mine!

I don't want to scare you, but you're describing exactly how I felt. Mine

started in the beginning in my chest as well, and into my sinuses and even

my ears and throat. I was just as confused as you, because I agree, it's a

reverse pattern! I had to fight with my doctor to keep from being

hospitalized. I have a pulse oximeter at home, and he did order home oxygen

so he was willing to work with me more than other doctors might. I'm just

5 minutes from my local hospital, and I also have epi pens at the ready on

my nightstand. I know being sick stinks, but it's nothing to fool around

with. It took much longer for me to recover than I ever expected, and my

oxygen level dropped the most upon lying down and exertion. I'd be very

careful if I were you....

The oxygen helped me tremendously, it helped me feel less lethargic, and

definitely more awake and alert. It didn't help with the coughing, and I

can definitely relate. I tore some of my intercostal muscles from all the

coughing, and then they became inflamed. I ended up on evil candy for my

troubles, which just ticked me off and made me moody. Horribly

uncomfortable. Advil can help some, but not much!

Plenty of rest, even if you have to do it upright in your favorite chair or

on the sofa, tons of fluids and a good expectorant. I practically LIVED on

mucinex during that time!

Please, PLEASE see your doc or visit the ER. ESPECIALLY if you have a

fever! It took me TWO rounds of levaquin 10 days each, plus a z-pack to get

rid of mine. Very unusual, but it was a very stubborn infection. I'm very

lucky that my doc let me stay home to ride it out! Of course, I had to see

him once a week during the whole mess.

Be well,

-------Original Message-------

From: instdesgn1

Date: 01/21/08 07:36:19

Subject: [ ] Bronchitis - Hard to breathe laying down

Hi Everyone ~~~~

I have managed to come down with something - virus or bacteria -

that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to throat, mouth,

and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual pattern which is

head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so bad (not pleasant

but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough! I feel almost like

I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear my lungs squeaking

away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for the fun of it!

On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me but my

albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held inhaler.

My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the emergency room

but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I noticed that a

big meal makes matters worse.

I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there anything

else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help any ?

(not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem so a

pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which are

irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are

getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still

breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that

antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-date med

will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time bug

season!

[Guest guest]

sounds like you're pretty miserable - seems similar to what i had.

mucinex (OTC) might help break up the congestion. drink gallons and

gallons of water. even nebbing (sterile - i boil mine on the stove)

water might help break it up. i'm sure an up to date version of

albuterol will help too.

if laying down causes issues, maybe add a few pillows or find a

recliner or somethign similar to sleep in.

i'm glad the xolair is helping you so much.

hope you feel better

heather

--- In , " instdesgn1 " <instdesgn1@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Hi Everyone ~~~~

>

> I have managed to come down with something - virus or

bacteria -

> that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to throat,

mouth,

> and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual pattern

which is

> head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so bad (not

pleasant

> but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough! I feel almost

like

> I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear my lungs

squeaking

> away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for the fun of it!

>

> On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me

but my

> albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

> couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held

inhaler.

> My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the emergency

room

> but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I noticed

that a

> big meal makes matters worse.

>

> I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

> improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there

anything

> else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help

any ?

> (not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem

so a

> pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which

are

> irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are

> getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still

> breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that

> antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

>

> The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-

date med

> will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

> haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

>

> Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time

bug

> season!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I get like that I haave to sleep sitting up.

Albuterol by neb may actually make you cough more. What happens is

that it alleviates all that constriction giving the mucus room to

move and get expelled by your coughing. No fun, but it does mean its

moving. What my doc has me do when I'm like that is do the neb AND

take Mucinex twice a day. If I'm not taking anything else with

sudafed, I can take Mucinex D.

As always, ask your doctor.

Oh, up your water intake. Hot green tea helps, and make sure you get

your regular daily requirement of vitamin C.

Feel better soon!

Addy

--- In , " instdesgn1 " <instdesgn1@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Hi Everyone ~~~~

>

> I have managed to come down with something - virus or

bacteria -

> that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to throat,

mouth,

> and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual pattern

which is

> head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so bad (not

pleasant

> but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough! I feel almost

like

> I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear my lungs

squeaking

> away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for the fun of it!

>

> On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me

but my

> albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

> couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held

inhaler.

> My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the emergency

room

> but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I noticed

that a

> big meal makes matters worse.

>

> I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

> improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there

anything

> else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help

any ?

> (not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem

so a

> pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which are

> irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are

> getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still

> breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that

> antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

>

> The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-

date med

> will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

> haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

>

> Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time bug

> season!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've discovered coughing is the worst thing I can do, although I constantly want

to do it to bring up the mucus in the lungs. The more I cough, the worse the

wheezing gets - but if I use the Mucinex, at least the coughing is more

productive. Even more importantly, I take decongestants. Without them, the

wheezing and the clicking keep me awake. Used to take Allegra D, but found I

didn't get along well with the pseudoephedrine, so switched to simple OTC

decongestants which work fairly well. Got a cold a few months ago which caused

the sinuses to flare into another bout of sinusitis, which I haven't had for

three years since getting a sinus " D & C " at Duke in 2004 - I had MRSA, mold and a

bacterial infection up there, which was pretty serious and required six weeks of

vancomycin infusion after the surgery. They didn't want to take any chances

this time around, so off I went to Duke again last week to see what's up, so to

speak.

I'm using Foradil, Nasacort and Pulmicort, and before bed a shot of Combivent.

That keeps everything under control. One other thing I found that helps is

taking a deep breath and holding it. For some reason, it quiets everything

down.

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: instdesgn1

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:06 PM

Subject: [ ] Bronchitis - Hard to breathe laying down

Hi Everyone ~~~~

I have managed to come down with something - virus or bacteria -

that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to throat, mouth,

and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual pattern which is

head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so bad (not pleasant

but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough! I feel almost like

I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear my lungs squeaking

away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for the fun of it!

On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me but my

albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held inhaler.

My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the emergency room

but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I noticed that a

big meal makes matters worse.

I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there anything

else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help any ?

(not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem so a

pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which are

irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are

getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still

breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that

antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-date med

will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time bug

season!

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for the suggestions several of you made. I realize that the

desire to cough to get that mucous out of the way did in a sense make

the coughing worse but then .... well, you know, I felt like I had too!

I went for a PFT on Mon. Half way through the test I said I felt

too bad to go on. This feeling of extreme fatigue and shortness of

breath has happened several times although I've never complained or

terminated the test because I was trying to be cooperative. It's a big

mistake because driving home I'm loopy from lack of air. This time a

nurse appeared, then my doctor. They asked if I wanted hospital, meds,

oxygen or what. I was given albuterol and left sitting in a chair for

2-1/2 hours.

Went back to the doc today who said I sounded better than 2 days

ago. Also turns out that I have the thrush in my throat which probably

accounts for the irritated throat and chest - maybe for diarrhea and

fatigue, too, I don't know. Will start some horrible awful liquid med

tonight (nystatin?) that I must gargle and then swallow. Still coughing

up mucous but not anywhere near as much and it's not that horrible color

w/blood.

The doc said my PFT, even though terminated early, was very good!

Still I feel short of breath - she indirectly and mildly suggested

possibly something about heart ..... What should I look for? Ask for?

Is this common w/asthma? How can someone have a good pft and still feel

hungry for air?

Can't wait to be well again! Why is it that job interviews always

come along when I'm sick? !!! (just a little pitty pot tune here!)

Xolair helps, definitely - my doc and I agree - but still have other

illnesses that can really knock me down. Stay well, everyone!

>

> I'm no doctor, but I really think you need to get to yours ASAP. I

spent a > month on strict bed rest just after Thanksgiving and before

Christmas with > very bad pneumonia. I thought I just had bronchitis

and I couldn't have > been more off the mark! I didn't make a big

ENOUGH deal out of mine!

>

> I don't want to scare you, but you're describing exactly how I felt.

Mine > started in the beginning in my chest as well, and into my sinuses

and even > my ears and throat. I was just as confused as you, because I

agree, it's a > reverse pattern! I had to fight with my doctor to keep

from being > hospitalized. I have a pulse oximeter at home, and he did

order home oxygen > so he was willing to work with me more than other

doctors might. I'm just > 5 minutes from my local hospital, and I also

have epi pens at the ready on > my nightstand. I know being sick

stinks, but it's nothing to fool around > with. It took much longer for

me to recover than I ever expected, and my > oxygen level dropped the

most upon lying down and exertion. I'd be very > careful if I were

you....

>

> The oxygen helped me tremendously, it helped me feel less lethargic,

and > definitely more awake and alert. It didn't help with the

coughing, and I > can definitely relate. I tore some of my intercostal

muscles from all the > coughing, and then they became inflamed. I ended

up on evil candy for my > troubles, which just ticked me off and made me

moody. Horribly > uncomfortable. Advil can help some, but not much!

>

> Plenty of rest, even if you have to do it upright in your favorite

chair or > on the sofa, tons of fluids and a good expectorant. I

practically LIVED on > mucinex during that time!

>

> Please, PLEASE see your doc or visit the ER. ESPECIALLY if you have a

> fever! It took me TWO rounds of levaquin 10 days each, plus a z-pack

to get > rid of mine. Very unusual, but it was a very stubborn

infection. I'm very > lucky that my doc let me stay home to ride it

out! Of course, I had to see > him once a week during the whole mess.

>

> Be well,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: instdesgn1

> Date: 01/21/08 07:36:19

> <mailto: >

> Subject: [ ] Bronchitis - Hard to breathe laying down

>

> Hi Everyone ~~~~

>

> I have managed to come down with something - virus or

bacteria - > that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to

throat, mouth, > and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual

pattern which is > head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so

bad (not pleasant > but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough!

I feel almost like > I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear

my lungs squeaking > away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for

the fun of it!

>

> On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me but

my > albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

> couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held

inhaler. > My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the

emergency room > but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I

noticed that a > big meal makes matters worse.

>

> I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

> improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there anything

> else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help any

?

> (not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem so

a > pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which are

> irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are >

getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still >

breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that >

antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

>

> The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-date

med > will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

> haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

>

> Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time bug

> season!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nystatin - that's for vaginal yeast infections - seems like an odd gargle - I

have to use the cream when I'm on antibiotics because I get the yeast infections

in my armpits and they itch like crazy - when I'm in public, people do seem to

wonder about my ape-like armpit scratching. The stuff works, though. However,

if it fails, I have a backup superbelchfire single pill, fluconazole, that does

the trick. I don't understand it though, because I rarely eat yeast.

Ohldepharte

----- Original Message -----

From: instdesgn1

Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:33 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Bronchitis - Hard to breathe laying down

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for the suggestions several of you made. I realize that the

desire to cough to get that mucous out of the way did in a sense make

the coughing worse but then .... well, you know, I felt like I had too!

I went for a PFT on Mon. Half way through the test I said I felt

too bad to go on. This feeling of extreme fatigue and shortness of

breath has happened several times although I've never complained or

terminated the test because I was trying to be cooperative. It's a big

mistake because driving home I'm loopy from lack of air. This time a

nurse appeared, then my doctor. They asked if I wanted hospital, meds,

oxygen or what. I was given albuterol and left sitting in a chair for

2-1/2 hours.

Went back to the doc today who said I sounded better than 2 days

ago. Also turns out that I have the thrush in my throat which probably

accounts for the irritated throat and chest - maybe for diarrhea and

fatigue, too, I don't know. Will start some horrible awful liquid med

tonight (nystatin?) that I must gargle and then swallow. Still coughing

up mucous but not anywhere near as much and it's not that horrible color

w/blood.

The doc said my PFT, even though terminated early, was very good!

Still I feel short of breath - she indirectly and mildly suggested

possibly something about heart ..... What should I look for? Ask for?

Is this common w/asthma? How can someone have a good pft and still feel

hungry for air?

Can't wait to be well again! Why is it that job interviews always

come along when I'm sick? !!! (just a little pitty pot tune here!)

Xolair helps, definitely - my doc and I agree - but still have other

illnesses that can really knock me down. Stay well, everyone!

>

> I'm no doctor, but I really think you need to get to yours ASAP. I

spent a > month on strict bed rest just after Thanksgiving and before

Christmas with > very bad pneumonia. I thought I just had bronchitis

and I couldn't have > been more off the mark! I didn't make a big

ENOUGH deal out of mine!

>

> I don't want to scare you, but you're describing exactly how I felt.

Mine > started in the beginning in my chest as well, and into my sinuses

and even > my ears and throat. I was just as confused as you, because I

agree, it's a > reverse pattern! I had to fight with my doctor to keep

from being > hospitalized. I have a pulse oximeter at home, and he did

order home oxygen > so he was willing to work with me more than other

doctors might. I'm just > 5 minutes from my local hospital, and I also

have epi pens at the ready on > my nightstand. I know being sick

stinks, but it's nothing to fool around > with. It took much longer for

me to recover than I ever expected, and my > oxygen level dropped the

most upon lying down and exertion. I'd be very > careful if I were

you....

>

> The oxygen helped me tremendously, it helped me feel less lethargic,

and > definitely more awake and alert. It didn't help with the

coughing, and I > can definitely relate. I tore some of my intercostal

muscles from all the > coughing, and then they became inflamed. I ended

up on evil candy for my > troubles, which just ticked me off and made me

moody. Horribly > uncomfortable. Advil can help some, but not much!

>

> Plenty of rest, even if you have to do it upright in your favorite

chair or > on the sofa, tons of fluids and a good expectorant. I

practically LIVED on > mucinex during that time!

>

> Please, PLEASE see your doc or visit the ER. ESPECIALLY if you have a

> fever! It took me TWO rounds of levaquin 10 days each, plus a z-pack

to get > rid of mine. Very unusual, but it was a very stubborn

infection. I'm very > lucky that my doc let me stay home to ride it

out! Of course, I had to see > him once a week during the whole mess.

>

> Be well,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: instdesgn1

> Date: 01/21/08 07:36:19

> <mailto: >

> Subject: [ ] Bronchitis - Hard to breathe laying down

>

> Hi Everyone ~~~~

>

> I have managed to come down with something - virus or

bacteria - > that amazingly started in my chest and moved upward to

throat, mouth, > and nasal passages. This is the opposite of the usual

pattern which is > head first and then to lungs. The head part isn't so

bad (not pleasant > but can deal with it) but the chest part is tough!

I feel almost like > I'm going to suffocate when I lay down and can hear

my lungs squeaking > away like letting air out of a balloon slowly for

the fun of it!

>

> On Fri. eve. I started an antibiotic which is good for me but

my > albuterol for nebulizer (haven't used it in maybe 1-1/2 years) is a

> couple years out of date as is the albuterol for the hand held

inhaler. > My doc told me that if I have an emergency to go to the

emergency room > but I wonder if I'm making too big a deal out of it. I

noticed that a > big meal makes matters worse.

>

> I've been on Xolair since March of 2007 and have noticed

> improvement but now ... whew! Lungs are a wreck! Is there anything

> else that can be done when I lay down to sleep? Does oxygen help any

?

> (not that I have any). It's not my throat that's the big problem so

a > pcap machine wouldn't help - I need something for my lungs which are

> irritated and inflammed and have green mucous. My rib muscles are >

getting sore from all the coughing. Wish I could relax but still >

breathe. I'm taking Tranxene and was taking Allegra but think that >

antihistamines can actually make lungs worse - at least in me.

>

> The doc called in new albuterol so I'm hoping that up-to-date

med > will help. I guess it's obvious that the Xolair was helping as I

> haven't been buying Albuterol for a long time!

>

> Hope all of you are breathing well during this winter-time bug

> season!

>

>