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Oh, yes. Try Xylitol. go to www.needs.com.

Or Sinufix (can't remember the website).

Also do nasal washing with a neti pot.

Ann

-----Original Message-----From: infections [mailto:infections ]On Behalf Of nickySent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:23 AMinfections Subject: [infections] SinusitisHi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell the group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for me)..at the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON it..rebound concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I had to see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT MESSAGE..I ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL SPRAYS..AT THE MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does anybody in the group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without using meds,thanks..Nick:)

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A Grossan's HydroPulse (nasal irrigator) is much, much easier to use

than a neti pot. Completly effortless and no discomfot. It pulses at

the same rate as the cilia in your sinuses, which are probably not

functioning properly. This was developed by an ENT and is proven very

effective against sinusitis. Costs about $80. Well worth the money.

You can even use betadine and other anti-microbials in it to rid

yourself of an infection.

penny

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> Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell the

> group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for me)..at

> the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up

> nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON it..rebound

> concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I had

to

> see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL

> SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT MESSAGE..I

> ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL SPRAYS..AT

THE

> MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does anybody in

the

> group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without using

> meds,thanks..Nick:)

>

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Hi Penny..thank you for the reply....i have the sinus irrigation..thinking it was sinusitis..the irrigation isn't working,for one good reason...again it's not sinusitis..i had a CT XRAY..Diagnosis ..was deviated septum and also..enlarged Turbinates..breathing is very hard in one nostril...Penny.i have two ways to go with this...live with it.or go for surgery...still Aug i had this problem..taking Nascort aq spray..it helps to a point..but the finally results..could be surgery..do you have any input about the surgery.thank you...Nick..also with this problem..having bad headaches,i'm not big on meds..so i live with the headaches...penny <pennyhoule@...> wrote: A Grossan's HydroPulse (nasal irrigator) is much, much easier to use than a neti pot. Completly effortless and no discomfot. It pulses at the same rate as the cilia

in your sinuses, which are probably not functioning properly. This was developed by an ENT and is proven very effective against sinusitis. Costs about $80. Well worth the money. You can even use betadine and other anti-microbials in it to rid yourself of an infection. penny>> Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell the > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for me)..at > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON it..rebound > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I had to > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT MESSAGE..I > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF

DECONCESTION AND NASAL SPRAYS..AT THE > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does anybody in the > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without using > meds,thanks..Nick:)>

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Hi Nick yanelli, tony kourlinis here-my good freind is nick

prostakopoulos ( a greek dude with a prostate problem)

Many people go for the surgery but come out very bad afterwards,

more sick than before sometimes never fully heals.fully sick yeah?So

be carefull whoever did the scan and told you you haven't got

sinusitis is a dud. 96 % of cfs/fibro people have sinus ilness, what

they call yours is not necessarily what it is.they make moustakes.

tony

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> > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell the

> > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for

me)..at

> > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up

> > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON

it..rebound

> > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I

had

> to

> > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL

> > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT

MESSAGE..I

> > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL

SPRAYS..AT

> THE

> > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does anybody

in

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> > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without

using

> > meds,thanks..Nick:)

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Hello ALL,

I am attaching two articles. In one, bromelain does help - aliviate some

symptoms. The real eye openings goes to the second article. Try to find the

new one on medline for this year.

I tried bromelain. It works but not for long in my case: I have Chronic

sinusitis and CLL. So I ended up with the second one. It works wonders. But

you have to see those doctors who practice this theory.

arkady

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The Mayo clinic back in 1999 published a study concluding that fungi was

the basic cause of chronic sinusitis, this study supports that ...i would

try anti-fungals as a probe before any other treatment is contemplated....

Ihave more on the subjuct shout if you would like more info ...

J Allergy Clin Immunol. 2003 May;111(5):1137-8; author reply 1138-40.

Intranasal antifungal treatment in 51 patients with chronic rhinosinusitis.

Ponikau JU, Sherris DA, Kita H, Kern EB.

Department of Otorhinolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Mayo Clinic

Rochester, Rochester, MN 55905, USA.

BACKGROUND: Chronic rhinosinusitis (CRS) is the most common chronic disease

that is frequently refractory to treatment. OBJECTIVE: We sought to

establish the safety and demonstrate the clinical efficacy of intranasal

antifungal drug therapy in patients with CRS in a pilot trial. METHODS: A

prospective open-label trial used amphotericin B as a medical treatment in

51 randomly selected patients with CRS. The antifungal agent was applied

intranasally as 20 mL of a 100 microg/mL solution twice daily. The outcome

was measured by using their symptoms and by using an endoscopic scoring

system in all patients. In addition, pretreatment and posttreatment coronal

computed tomographic scans of the nose and sinuses were available for

evaluation in 13 patients. RESULTS: By using amphotericin B, improvement of

sinusitis symptoms was observed in 38 (75%) of 51 patients. Endoscopically,

18 (35%) of 51 patients became disease free, and an additional 20 (39%) of

51 had improvement of at least one stage (P <.001). No effect was seen in 13

(25%) of 51 patients. The available computed tomographic scans before and

after treatment demonstrated a significant reduction in the inflammatory

mucosa thickening that had occluded the paranasal sinuses (P <.0001 in

maxillary sinus). CONCLUSION: This open-label pilot trial demonstrates that

direct mucoadministration of an antifungal drug appears to be both safe and

effective in the treatment of patients with CRS. Therefore controlled and

blinded trials are indicated to clarify the novel role of intranasal

antifungal drugs in the treatment of CRS.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 12464951 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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>Hi Nick yanelli, tony kourlinis here-my good freind is nick

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>prostakopoulos ( a greek dude with a prostate problem)

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>Many people go for the surgery but come out very bad afterwards,

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>more sick than before sometimes never fully heals.fully sick yeah?So

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>be carefull whoever did the scan and told you you haven't got

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>sinusitis is a dud. 96 % of cfs/fibro people have sinus ilness, what

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Hi Ann..Don't that i know of....we thought it was Sinusitis..as it turns out.i had a ct x-ray and saw the ENT doctor...diagnosis as follows...enlarged turbinates and deviated septum...doctor gave me ..nascort aq spray.it helps to a point...i have two ways to look at this....LIVE WITH IT OR GO SURGERY...keep in touch,and thanks for the reply...Nick..Ann Greenberger <greenline@...> wrote: Are there any intranasal anti-fungals available without a prescription, maybe something natural? Ann

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Don't do surgery. Just my 2 cents.

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Thanks,Jill..again i don't no what way to go,im so confuss about this subject..Nicky...jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: Don't do surgery. Just my 2 cents. BODY { MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; COLOR: #333333;

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Here's a good question to ask:

Have I always had this anatomy?

If yes, then how come I wasn't ALWAYS symptomatic?????

Years ago when I had an infected wisdom tooth that probably came from

a fracture (hairline) during a cleaning and nobody but nobody would

believe it as it LOOKED fine! tho I kept saying, it FEELS funny, and

I was in a lot of PAIN, one of the top ENT's at New York University

said, you have a deviated septum and need surgery under general

anesthesia etc, and THEN you will be out of pain! And so I said, I've

had a deviated septum my whole life, so why would it bother me now?

Remember, surgeons are in the business to do surgery and make $. I've

not heard people getting better from these type of surgeries. If they

have nasal polyps or something, yes. But not these anatomical types

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Jill,good answer from you..if not surgey,,how do i live with this?...being on nascort aq spray.is that the answer..using SUDAFED making things worse..one of the problem is not having good medical care,also by not going to the right ENT..many ent doctor's don't fully understand the problems...some doctors are good and some not as good.you have to be lucky to find the right doctor..just to toss meds is not the answer,its a fast fix for a few hours...sorry for boring...i'm looking into seeing another ent doctor,as the one im seeing (is like he couldn't not be bother)true big bucks with ent doctor's..thank god im cover,if not it would cost me alot of money...again let me note again,the biggest problem..NOT GOOD MEDICAL CARE,AND THE WRONG DOCTOR.Thanks again for your reply...Nick....jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: Here's a good

question to ask:Have I always had this anatomy?If yes, then how come I wasn't ALWAYS symptomatic?????Years ago when I had an infected wisdom tooth that probably came from a fracture (hairline) during a cleaning and nobody but nobody would believe it as it LOOKED fine! tho I kept saying, it FEELS funny, and I was in a lot of PAIN, one of the top ENT's at New York University said, you have a deviated septum and need surgery under general anesthesia etc, and THEN you will be out of pain! And so I said, I've had a deviated septum my whole life, so why would it bother me now?Remember, surgeons are in the business to do surgery and make $. I've not heard people getting better from these type of surgeries. If they have nasal polyps or something, yes. But not these anatomical types of surgeries. BODY { MARGIN-TOP: > 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: > Verdana, Arial

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Why not try the intranasal amphotericin B that posted about, as

well as...bactobran, I think its called, will get coag neg staph in

the sinuses. Try both of those.

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Good thought Jill...intranasal amphotericin b,and also bactobran(sp?)at this stage i'll try anything lol..its not a laughing matter,yes i did reply to paul..Question is this intranasal amphotericin..OTC?..or do i need a doctors note?..jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: Why not try the intranasal amphotericin B that posted about, as well as...bactobran, I think its called, will get coag neg staph in the sinuses. Try both of those. BODY { MARGIN-TOP: > > 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; COLOR: #333333; FONT-> FAMILY: > > Verdana, Arial } IMG { MARGIN-TOP: 25px; MARGIN-LEFT: -> > 20px

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Sorry, forgot to attach the articles. You can add curry and lots of garlic to bromelain.

[infections] Re: Sinusitis>Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:03:08 -0000>>>>>>Hi Nick yanelli, tony kourlinis here-my good freind is nick>>prostakopoulos ( a greek dude with a prostate problem)>>Many people go for the surgery but come out very bad afterwards,>>more sick than before sometimes never fully heals.fully sick yeah?So>>be carefull whoever did the scan and told you you haven't got>>sinusitis is a dud. 96 % of cfs/fibro people have sinus ilness, what>>they call yours is not necessarily what it is.they make moustakes.>>tony>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell the>> > > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for>>me)..at>> > > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up>> > > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON>>it..rebound>> > > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I>>had>> > to>> > > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL>> > > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT>>MESSAGE..I>> > > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL>>SPRAYS..AT>> > THE>> > > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does anybody>>in>> > the>> > > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without>>using>> > > meds,thanks..Nick:)>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

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Irrigation can clear acute bacterial sinusitis, but not chronic.

Chronic sinusitis goes to the bone, therefore the bacteria cannot be

washed away, but it can help alot along with abx.

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> > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell the

> > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for

me)..at

> > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up

> > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON

it..rebound

> > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I

had

> to

> > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL

> > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT

MESSAGE..I

> > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL

SPRAYS..AT

> THE

> > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does anybody

in

> the

> > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without

using

> > meds,thanks..Nick:)

> >

>

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Nick -- I have the exact same situation. I would not go for the

surgery, but of course that's up to you. There is a REASON your (and

my) turbinates are inflamed. I think dealing with and treating that,

will reduce their inflammation...

just my two cents,

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> > >

> > >me)..at

> > >

> > > > > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff

up

> > >

> > > > > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON

> > >

> > >it..rebound

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> > > > > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took

afrin...I

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Hi Dan,thanks for the reply,so you have the same problem...i thought i was the only one lol..Dan what helps you...i've been trying COLLOIDAL SILVER..it does help..Nick...kdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote: Nick -- I have the exact same situation. I would not go for the surgery, but of course that's up to you. There is a REASON your (and my) turbinates are inflamed. I think dealing with and treating that, will reduce their inflammation...just my two cents,Dan> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell > the> > >> > > > > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for> > >> > >me)..at> > >> > > > > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up> > >> > > > > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON> > >> > >it..rebound> > >> > > > > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I> >

>> > >had> > >> > > > to> > >> > > > > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL> > >> > > > > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT> > >> > >MESSAGE..I> > >> > > > > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL> > >> > >SPRAYS..AT> > >> > > > THE> > >> > > > > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does > anybody> > >> > >in> > >> > > > the> > >> > > > > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without> > >> > >using> > >> > > > > meds,thanks..Nick:)> > >> > > > >> >

>> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >

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That is so smart. I believe it goes more than to the bone it attacks

the brain and half the head- but your explanation is unfortunately

under recognised as the truer picture of ill health.

tony

> > >

> > > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell

the

> > > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for

> me)..at

> > > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up

> > > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON

> it..rebound

> > > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took afrin...I

> had

> > to

> > > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL

> > > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT

> MESSAGE..I

> > > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL

> SPRAYS..AT

> > THE

> > > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does

anybody

> in

> > the

> > > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without

> using

> > > meds,thanks..Nick:)

> > >

> >

>

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Dan,

I couldn't agree more. And, there is a good chance that surgery will

spread the disease around real good. That can be very debilitating.

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me

tell

> > the

> > > >

> > > > > > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least

for

> > > >

> > > >me)..at

> > > >

> > > > > > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad

cold,stuff

> up

> > > >

> > > > > > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON

> > > >

> > > >it..rebound

> > > >

> > > > > > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took

> afrin...I

> > > >

> > > >had

> > > >

> > > > > to

> > > >

> > > > > > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL

> > > >

> > > > > > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT

> > > >

> > > >MESSAGE..I

> > > >

> > > > > > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL

> > > >

> > > >SPRAYS..AT

> > > >

> > > > > THE

> > > >

> > > > > > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does

> > anybody

> > > >

> > > >in

> > > >

> > > > > the

> > > >

> > > > > > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose

> without

> > > >

> > > >using

> > > >

> > > > > > meds,thanks..Nick:)

> > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

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Tony,

Just trying to add a little " earned " horse sense to the conversation.

PS. I actually once stuck a Water Pik up both nostrils in an attempt

to clean out my {surgically opened) sinuses and try to hit what I

could swear was an abcess (pus pocket) at my left maxillary

(oversized) ostium. It hurt when I hit the spot, but nothing came

out. I once had uptake with a nuclear scan in that spot, so something

is going on under the skin. I think I got it pretty good taking

megadoses of flagyl, as the local pain was intense.

Be wary of an itchy surgeon. I had NO sinus disease prior to surgery.

CFS came months later.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Group,i'm so happy i found this group..first let me tell

> the

> > > > group...taking AFRIN NASAL SPRAY is not a good (at least for

> > me)..at

> > > > the time i thought i was coming down with a bad cold,stuff up

> > > > nose..the more i use AFRIN..the more i got hook up ON

> > it..rebound

> > > > concestion..the problem was worse then before i took

afrin...I

> > had

> > > to

> > > > see AN E.N.T. doctor..and was diagnosis with CHR ETHMOIDAL

> > > > SINUSITIS.Also had a CT XRAY....P.S. TO MAKE THIS A SHORT

> > MESSAGE..I

> > > > ABUSE MY SINUS BY TAKING ALOT OF DECONCESTION AND NASAL

> > SPRAYS..AT

> > > THE

> > > > MOMENT I'M NOT USING ANY MEDS OR SPRAYS..QUESTION..Does

> anybody

> > in

> > > the

> > > > group know any treatment while having a stuff up nose without

> > using

> > > > meds,thanks..Nick:)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hello All,

I attribute it to Xolair (I'm pretty sure it is), but I used to

have what seemed like 1 continuous sinus infection for months(and

sometimes it dripped and caused pneumonias it was not fun) but the

past 2 years I've had just 1 sinus infection (yay!). I currently have

a sinus infection and I'm hoping treatment was initiated early enough

so it doesn't cause my asthma to flare.

I was set to see my pulmo/allergist on 2/12 for the first time

since the end of November (I had been doing so well) and was feeling

like I had 2 black eyes b/c my sinuses were so inflamed, but figured

that I didn't need to go to my PCP since I really started to feel bad

on 2/2, and I was going to see my pulmo so soon. I should know by now

after living in NY for over 20 years that the weather in November -

March can be a bit odd. So I didn't end up going to my doctor on 2/12

due to a snow/ice storm (it was just impossible to drive). I called my

pulmo and THANK GOD (I really thought my head was going to explode) he

knows I know what a sinus infection feels like and prescribed

antibiotics over the phone (I finished on the phone with him and was

going around telling the people in my house " I LOVE Dr. Marcus! " ).

I was able to see my pulmo this past Tuesday (2/19) and he was

amazed that even after a week of antibiotics I'm still apparently

quite inflamed/infected, even though I feel much better. My doctor is

REALLY trying to keep this from causing problems with my lungs, so he

wants me on a 21 day course of Vantin (which is apparently a very

obscure antibiotic which my pharmacy has to stock now because of me).

Overall it turned out well though because my doctor knew I knew what I

was talking about when I told him over the phone " I have a sinus

infection " and called in the Vantin for me. Its funny, he said when I

saw him this week " you made the correct diagnosis Meg! " (like it was

some sick test).

Really though one 3-4 week sinus infection/year as opposed to like

two 3-4 month sinus infections/year is SUCH an improvement. Just a

little tip I figured out in the throws of this sinus infection,

pressing your face up against a cold window really feels good, it

looks very odd but it numbs your face.

In any event, I'm feeling much better now and really see what

Xolair is doing for me.

Meagan

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Hi:

I've had asthma and sinus problems all my life.. It sounds like you need an

ent doctor..

Kathy

meagainbenny <bennetme@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I attribute it to Xolair (I'm pretty sure it is), but I used to

have what seemed like 1 continuous sinus infection for months(and

sometimes it dripped and caused pneumonias it was not fun) but the

past 2 years I've had just 1 sinus infection (yay!). I currently have

a sinus infection and I'm hoping treatment was initiated early enough

so it doesn't cause my asthma to flare.

I was set to see my pulmo/allergist on 2/12 for the first time

since the end of November (I had been doing so well) and was feeling

like I had 2 black eyes b/c my sinuses were so inflamed, but figured

that I didn't need to go to my PCP since I really started to feel bad

on 2/2, and I was going to see my pulmo so soon. I should know by now

after living in NY for over 20 years that the weather in November -

March can be a bit odd. So I didn't end up going to my doctor on 2/12

due to a snow/ice storm (it was just impossible to drive). I called my

pulmo and THANK GOD (I really thought my head was going to explode) he

knows I know what a sinus infection feels like and prescribed

antibiotics over the phone (I finished on the phone with him and was

going around telling the people in my house " I LOVE Dr. Marcus! " ).

I was able to see my pulmo this past Tuesday (2/19) and he was

amazed that even after a week of antibiotics I'm still apparently

quite inflamed/infected, even though I feel much better. My doctor is

REALLY trying to keep this from causing problems with my lungs, so he

wants me on a 21 day course of Vantin (which is apparently a very

obscure antibiotic which my pharmacy has to stock now because of me).

Overall it turned out well though because my doctor knew I knew what I

was talking about when I told him over the phone " I have a sinus

infection " and called in the Vantin for me. Its funny, he said when I

saw him this week " you made the correct diagnosis Meg! " (like it was

some sick test).

Really though one 3-4 week sinus infection/year as opposed to like

two 3-4 month sinus infections/year is SUCH an improvement. Just a

little tip I figured out in the throws of this sinus infection,

pressing your face up against a cold window really feels good, it

looks very odd but it numbs your face.

In any event, I'm feeling much better now and really see what

Xolair is doing for me.

Meagan

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Hi,

Thank you all for your kind words. I do see an ENT but think I'm

going to have to switch - he's absolutely convinced that 'chronic

sinusitis' = 'do not treat'. Whereas my pulmo/allergist I've been

seeing longer and he knows what happens if I'm not treated (I end up

with a pneumonia), so I figured to go without a fight and just call my

pulmo/allergist.

Meagan

> Hello All,

>

> I attribute it to Xolair (I'm pretty sure it is), but I used to

> have what seemed like 1 continuous sinus infection for months(and

> sometimes it dripped and caused pneumonias it was not fun) but the

> past 2 years I've had just 1 sinus infection (yay!). I currently have

> a sinus infection and I'm hoping treatment was initiated early enough

> so it doesn't cause my asthma to flare.

>

> I was set to see my pulmo/allergist on 2/12 for the first time

> since the end of November (I had been doing so well) and was feeling

> like I had 2 black eyes b/c my sinuses were so inflamed, but figured

> that I didn't need to go to my PCP since I really started to feel bad

> on 2/2, and I was going to see my pulmo so soon. I should know by now

> after living in NY for over 20 years that the weather in November -

> March can be a bit odd. So I didn't end up going to my doctor on 2/12

> due to a snow/ice storm (it was just impossible to drive). I called my

> pulmo and THANK GOD (I really thought my head was going to explode) he

> knows I know what a sinus infection feels like and prescribed

> antibiotics over the phone (I finished on the phone with him and was

> going around telling the people in my house " I LOVE Dr. Marcus! " ).

>

> I was able to see my pulmo this past Tuesday (2/19) and he was

> amazed that even after a week of antibiotics I'm still apparently

> quite inflamed/infected, even though I feel much better. My doctor is

> REALLY trying to keep this from causing problems with my lungs, so he

> wants me on a 21 day course of Vantin (which is apparently a very

> obscure antibiotic which my pharmacy has to stock now because of me).

> Overall it turned out well though because my doctor knew I knew what I

> was talking about when I told him over the phone " I have a sinus

> infection " and called in the Vantin for me. Its funny, he said when I

> saw him this week " you made the correct diagnosis Meg! " (like it was

> some sick test).

>

> Really though one 3-4 week sinus infection/year as opposed to like

> two 3-4 month sinus infections/year is SUCH an improvement. Just a

> little tip I figured out in the throws of this sinus infection,

> pressing your face up against a cold window really feels good, it

> looks very odd but it numbs your face.

>

> In any event, I'm feeling much better now and really see what

> Xolair is doing for me.

>

> Meagan

>

>

>

>

>

>

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My mother-in-law told me, when she used to get sinus

infections back in college, she put her face against

the cold window on the bus and discovered the

vibrations of the bus helped break things up. Making

recovery much quicker.

I don't recommend touching anything on public transit!

But the vibration thing really seems to work. I have a

pen with a vibrating tip [novelty item from

Restoration Hardware-Not what you're thinking!] that

really works well. Anything with a small enough end to

put against the edge of your cheek bone, brow, or nose

[that tickles!] would work. You can even try pressing

with your thumb and jiggling your hand really fast. Or

using the back of an electric toothbrush.

I know it sounds silly, but it works.

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