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Hi, like you I sometimes feel I can't go anywhere. God forbid I sit next to

someone who owns cats or birds or anything for that matter with hair, fur or

feathers. Shopping malls are out because of all the odors. I have been on

Xolair for one year and one month now. I was on 60 mg a day of the evil candy

from December through the End of March 2006-2007 and had been on only 20 mg per

day prior to that for many years. Sometimes I was able to taper down to 5 mg

but that would last just so long before I got another infection or was back on

the nebulizer three or four times a day. In May 2007 I had tapered back down to

20 mg. Then went to 15 for two weeks and tapered off 5 mg at a time for at

least a two week period - when I was down to 5 mg a day I then went to 5 mg

every other day - It was August 2007 - I was completely off of it except for one

of my inhalers that contains it. Thank goodness, the swelling in my face if

gone and the bruising I would

get has stopped - I often looked like someone was beating on me. I just know

that you can't taper off too quickly or you can develop cardiac problems. If

you stay on it too long you get prednisone induced Cushings symptoms. I always

had to take oral potassium as well when on prednisone. Maybe we all need to

pick a part of the country we all like, and build a big bubble around ourselves

and stay there until they come up with a cure for this.

Anne

----- Original Message ----

From: JoyCarol and <jclutterbuster@...>

Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 9:26:23 AM

Subject: [ ] vicious cycle

I recently boasted that after eight months of Xolair

injections I had

tapered my daily prednisone maintenance dose of 20 mg down to 5mg and

was going to do 5mg every other day during March.

took my sick pet hedgehog to the vet on Monday, that sure wrecks havoc

with allergies and sinuses. Wed nite I went to pot luck supper at the

church where there were lots of people. By Friday I was gasping for

air, this morning Sat. my sinus' are full and draining and it's thick

- got an cold or infection coming on. I did six nebulizer treatments

yesterday, so it's time to bump the pred back up to 40. It advances

quickly. I feel raspiness in my throat and tightness in my chest. By

tomorrow I will be in respiratory distress if I don't deal with it now.

I am so hoping that 40 mg will be enough to deal with the asthma. The

vicious cycle I was in before the Xolair was 60 mg and I'd be able to

taper down to 20 - when I tried to taper any lower I'd always have an

asthma exasterbation or catch a cold and that would adversely affect

my asthma.

Sometimes I feel like I shouldn't have left my house, but the

discoloration of the mucous tells me it's not asthma but something

else that will need an antibiotic in addition to the increased dose of

prednisone.

I was so happy to be down on the evil candy - color me sad. Maybe

eight months is too soon to try and be off evil candy, at what point

(how many months of injections) did others successfully taper off?

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So sorry you're sick and had to bump up the evil candy. I'm not on

prednisone due to very severe physical and emotional side effects but

have been on high-dose inhaled steroids for years, still with side

effects but much more tolerable. In the baseline dose I'd been on

before starting Xolair 2 years ago, the steroids are absorbed by the

body at a level equivalent to about 25 mg prednisone daily and I

doubled that when my asthma flared.

I wasn't able to wean down my baseline dose until I'd been on Xolair

for one year. Before that, every time I tried to wean down a small

amount, my peak flows dropped and I had return to my original dose to

get back to normal. After the one year mark, I was finally able to

wean gradually, but I've only been able to go to the equivalent of

8mg pred. Everytime I get near that dose, I end up catching a

respiratory infection which flares my asthma, requiring a return to

my previous baseline or higher to quiet things down.

Unfortunately, I flare up due to respiratory infection often enough

that I just haven't been able to wean down below the 8 mg level

before the next infection hits.

So, it's been disappointing because, like all of us here, I had been

dreaming of totally getting off steroids and their side effects. But,

as I'm sure you'll hear, other folks here have had much better

longterm results from Xolair. It just seems to be very individual.

Fran

>

> I recently boasted that after eight months of Xolair injections I

had

> tapered my daily prednisone maintenance dose of 20 mg down to 5mg

and

> was going to do 5mg every other day during March.

>

> took my sick pet hedgehog to the vet on Monday, that sure wrecks

havoc

> with allergies and sinuses. Wed nite I went to pot luck supper at

the

> church where there were lots of people. By Friday I was gasping for

> air, this morning Sat. my sinus' are full and draining and it's

thick

> - got an cold or infection coming on. I did six nebulizer treatments

> yesterday, so it's time to bump the pred back up to 40. It advances

> quickly. I feel raspiness in my throat and tightness in my chest. By

> tomorrow I will be in respiratory distress if I don't deal with it

now.

>

> I am so hoping that 40 mg will be enough to deal with the asthma.

The

> vicious cycle I was in before the Xolair was 60 mg and I'd be able

to

> taper down to 20 - when I tried to taper any lower I'd always have

an

> asthma exasterbation or catch a cold and that would adversely affect

> my asthma.

>

> Sometimes I feel like I shouldn't have left my house, but the

> discoloration of the mucous tells me it's not asthma but something

> else that will need an antibiotic in addition to the increased dose

of

> prednisone.

>

> I was so happy to be down on the evil candy - color me sad. Maybe

> eight months is too soon to try and be off evil candy, at what point

> (how many months of injections) did others successfully taper off?

>

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It is possible to control asthma without steroids. I cannot take any form of

steroid at all.

I'm that 1 in 20,000 that becomes psychotic when given steroids. I don't mean

mood

swings, I mean - the world is a horrible hopeless place so I should kill every

one I care

about where is the self destruct button on this planet or maybe I should just

kill myself

because I burnt the toast - crazy! My PCPs swore that Advair wasn't systematic

and would

only effect my lungs -HA!- it just took two days longer to make me nuts.

Anyway, after much boo-hooing about how poor couldn't take the

''sacred

steroids'', they gave up and sent me to a specialist who put me on the lovely

Xolair. I went

from multiple nebs a day to an occassional puff of albuterol. I also take

Theophylline and

Singulair. And had to restart Tilade after being sealled inside for the winter

with the dust

mites and mold spores. But I don't feel like a little old lady with half a

bottle of cheap

perfume on could kill me by standing two isles away in the grocery store and

I've been

able to drink wine again! [ Hello, my pretty red friend, how I've missed you.]

So have faith. I know everyone is different, but I can't be the only steroid

free asthmatic on

the planet.

Also, I've been wondering, what [if any] 'roids were the other quick Xolair

responders

taking? I'm not a scientist, but it seems like either the stuff should be in

there binding

things or not. Does it have to go in with a whip and a chair and train the wild

molecules to

bind! Wouldn't it be funny if it turned out steroids interfered with Xolair?

Sorry this was so long.

Breathe easy,

--- In , " JoyCarol and " <jclutterbuster@...>

wrote:

>

> I recently boasted that after eight months of Xolair injections I had

> tapered my daily prednisone maintenance dose of 20 mg down to 5mg and

> was going to do 5mg every other day during March.

>

> took my sick pet hedgehog to the vet on Monday, that sure wrecks havoc

> with allergies and sinuses. Wed nite I went to pot luck supper at the

> church where there were lots of people. By Friday I was gasping for

> air, this morning Sat. my sinus' are full and draining and it's thick

> - got an cold or infection coming on. I did six nebulizer treatments

> yesterday, so it's time to bump the pred back up to 40. It advances

> quickly. I feel raspiness in my throat and tightness in my chest. By

> tomorrow I will be in respiratory distress if I don't deal with it now.

>

> I am so hoping that 40 mg will be enough to deal with the asthma. The

> vicious cycle I was in before the Xolair was 60 mg and I'd be able to

> taper down to 20 - when I tried to taper any lower I'd always have an

> asthma exasterbation or catch a cold and that would adversely affect

> my asthma.

>

> Sometimes I feel like I shouldn't have left my house, but the

> discoloration of the mucous tells me it's not asthma but something

> else that will need an antibiotic in addition to the increased dose of

> prednisone.

>

> I was so happy to be down on the evil candy - color me sad. Maybe

> eight months is too soon to try and be off evil candy, at what point

> (how many months of injections) did others successfully taper off?

>

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My maintenance dose that I couldn't get below was 20mg every other day until

I started Xolair in Aug 2005. I was able to stop pred two years later, Sept

2007; and I haven't had any acute episodes ( I was averaging five episodes a

year until I started Xolair.) I am still at the highest level of Pulmicort

and Foradil, I will try to reduce those next.

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Well I kicked the Unipyl habit (theopyline) 1-1/2 years into Xolair.

Quality of life has improved since severe intestinal cramps stopped.

Also, am approaching my 1st anniversary without Prednisone. Was also

a junkie for that steroid. Now I really believe I can do without

it. We'll see how I fare through the now-begining spring allergy

season but I'm pretty optimistic I'm going to fly right through it

without a problem.

>

> My maintenance dose that I couldn't get below was 20mg every other

day until

> I started Xolair in Aug 2005. I was able to stop pred two years

later, Sept

> 2007; and I haven't had any acute episodes ( I was averaging five

episodes a

> year until I started Xolair.) I am still at the highest level of

Pulmicort

> and Foradil, I will try to reduce those next.

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

> **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL

Money &

> Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

>

>

>

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