Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 One of my symptoms from my implants was a hive like rash that appeared across my abdomen from my breasts to my belly button. My doc had me take pics and couldn't believe what he saw. His response was"That is really impressive". Mine did not itch I would just notice it when changing clothes or getting in or out of the bath. I got the rash one last time about a week after I was explanted. I will try to attach a picture. I hope it helps. Well I can't find the pictures. It looked like someone had written in some sort of ancient language all over me and it was raised. to tell the truth It reminded me of the movie the excorsist when she wrote help me on her stomach. It was very weird Toni Toni Frampton toni_frampton@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Toni, So many women have problems with rashes and hives! . . .. Unfortunately some of the children born to implanted women have the same problems! For the women at least, the problems go away after explant and detoxing. (One of the herx effects may be a temporary worsening of the symptoms though.) Should you have photos, they will not attach to messages that go to the group. They can be uploaded to the Photo section. If you need some help, we'll be glad to help. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thank you! I do plan on finding them. My PS is also supposed to be sending the pics of my implants. They were yellow. although she may have distroyed so that I can't use them in a law suit. You know how they stick together. --- I am begining to sound as paranoid as she thinks I am---- hugs to all of you couragous women ToniToni Frampton toni_frampton@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Ask for the hospital pathology report and slides.Toni Frampton <toni_frampton@...> wrote: Thank you! I do plan on finding them. My PS is also supposed to be sending the pics of my implants. They were yellow. although she may have distroyed so that I can't use them in a law suit. You know how they stick together. --- I am begining to sound as paranoid as she thinks I am---- hugs to all of you couragous women ToniToni Frampton toni_frampton@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Hi , Here is a direct quote from Dr. Hulda 's book: " The Cure for All Diseases " . " Hives Sometimes your body will break out in hives instead of a rash. Again, gallstones in the liver and gallbladder are responsible. Do the Liver Cleanse. " The gallstones that you have originate from a problem with your liver. Removing the gall bladder does not fix the problem with your liver. The blood tests the doctors do to test your liver enzyme levels will not find this type of problem with your liver (unless your liver is very bad off). Flushing your gall bladder flushes your liver, they both get helped at the same time. Hope this helps, Vince > > I have undergone a battery of tests recently -- which is how I found out that I have gallstones. But what started me going to several doctors is the Chronic Hives I have had for the past few months. The hives have become larger and have spread all over and despite taking medication prescribed by an allergist the hives sometimes resemble small marbles. > > I am wondering if there is some connection between the gallstones and my hives. Does anyone have any information?? > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Vince, Thank you for the information --- I will definitely look into this and hopefully stop itching!!!! Happy Holidays!!! Kind Regards, VR <new_man85@...> wrote: Hi , Here is a direct quote from Dr. Hulda 's book: " The Cure for All Diseases " . " Hives Sometimes your body will break out in hives instead of a rash. Again, gallstones in the liver and gallbladder are responsible. Do the Liver Cleanse. " The gallstones that you have originate from a problem with your liver. Removing the gall bladder does not fix the problem with your liver. The blood tests the doctors do to test your liver enzyme levels will not find this type of problem with your liver (unless your liver is very bad off). Flushing your gall bladder flushes your liver, they both get helped at the same time. Hope this helps, Vince > > I have undergone a battery of tests recently -- which is how I found out that I have gallstones. But what started me going to several doctors is the Chronic Hives I have had for the past few months. The hives have become larger and have spread all over and despite taking medication prescribed by an allergist the hives sometimes resemble small marbles. > > I am wondering if there is some connection between the gallstones and my hives. Does anyone have any information?? > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 You made a great point here. An acupuncturist recently told me that your liver has to be about 70% damaged before the problem shows up on the routine blood tests that are done by doctors. Thanks for sharing, but I thought I'd highlight the point. -----Original Message----- From: new_man85@... gallstones Sent: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 8:42 PM Subject: Re: HIVES Hi , Here is a direct quote from Dr. Hulda 's book: " The Cure for All Diseases " . " Hives Sometimes your body will break out in hives instead of a rash. Again, gallstones in the liver and gallbladder are responsible. Do the Liver Cleanse. " The gallstones that you have originate from a problem with your liver. Removing the gall bladder does not fix the problem with your liver. The blood tests the doctors do to test your liver enzyme levels will not find this type of problem with your liver (unless your liver is very bad off). Flushing your gall bladder flushes your liver, they both get helped at the same time. Hope this helps, Vince > > I have undergone a battery of tests recently -- which is how I found out that I have gallstones. But what started me going to several doctors is the Chronic Hives I have had for the past few months. The hives have become larger and have spread all over and despite taking medication prescribed by an allergist the hives sometimes resemble small marbles. > > I am wondering if there is some connection between the gallstones and my hives. Does anyone have any information?? > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I am not sure, but I did want to say that my mom had Hep C and when her liver enzymes were at the highest she also had hives. It had something to do with her liver not functioning properly. Maybe others can give you better information. -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:58 AM gallstones Subject: HIVES I have undergone a battery of tests recently -- which is how I found out that I have gallstones. But what started me going to several doctors is the Chronic Hives I have had for the past few months. The hives have become larger and have spread all over and despite taking medication prescribed by an allergist the hives sometimes resemble small marbles. I am wondering if there is some connection between the gallstones and my hives. Does anyone have any information?? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 , I get hives too...I have dont flushes and have not gotten much out accept ALOT of stagnant bile, and dark green stones. I have had hives since I was 13, and get them when ever I am under alot of stress...I also have slight jaundice (only noticed at eyes, they have a slight yellow tinge)...Funny thing is, food allergies and hives started around the same time...could someone get a stone as young as 13? I am 23 now, and have gotten a ultrasound and they found nothing...after about 5 total flushes still get hives and still have slight jaundice of the eyes (sclera). I am now thinking of doing a LF then 21 day master cleanse then another LF to help out my system...thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 I once had Hep A and during that time I broke out in hives. Seems like the connection to the liver and hives is correct. The following year I had my first Gallbladder attack. Hope you get to the bottom of it SOON and stop itching! AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Thank you because all I seem to do is itch. But I am also working with an allergist. Now that I found out that I have gallstones I have to ask him what his thoughts are on the subject. I don't know if it is true of all allergists (I hate to make generalizations) but the one I saw is anything but conventional. AthleticItaliano@... wrote: I once had Hep A and during that time I broke out in hives. Seems like the connection to the liver and hives is correct. The following year I had my first Gallbladder attack. Hope you get to the bottom of it SOON and stop itching! AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 , I get hives too...I have dont flushes and have not gotten much out accept ALOT of stagnant bile, and dark green stones. I have had hives since I was 13, and get them when ever I am under alot of stress...I also have slight jaundice (only noticed at eyes, they have a slight yellow tinge)...Funny thing is, food allergies and hives started around the same time...could someone get a stone as young as 13? I am 23 now, and have gotten a ultrasound and they found nothing...after about 5 total flushes still get hives and still have slight jaundice of the eyes (sclera). I am now thinking of doing a LF then 21 day master cleanse then another LF to help out my system...thoughts? > I once had Hep A and during that time I broke out in hives. Seems like the > connection to the liver and hives is correct. The following year I had my > first Gallbladder attack. Hope you get to the bottom of it SOON and stop > itching! > > AJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 You mention food allergies -- just curious if you know what you are allergic to? You also mention an LF -- I am sorry but I don't even knw what that is. I haven't tried a flush yet--kind of scared. Take care, crzyakta <crzyakta@...> wrote: , I get hives too...I have dont flushes and have not gotten much out accept ALOT of stagnant bile, and dark green stones. I have had hives since I was 13, and get them when ever I am under alot of stress...I also have slight jaundice (only noticed at eyes, they have a slight yellow tinge)...Funny thing is, food allergies and hives started around the same time...could someone get a stone as young as 13? I am 23 now, and have gotten a ultrasound and they found nothing...after about 5 total flushes still get hives and still have slight jaundice of the eyes (sclera). I am now thinking of doing a LF then 21 day master cleanse then another LF to help out my system...thoughts? > I once had Hep A and during that time I broke out in hives. Seems like the > connection to the liver and hives is correct. The following year I had my > first Gallbladder attack. Hope you get to the bottom of it SOON and stop > itching! > > AJ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 LF is a liver flush...curezone has all the info on it...I have done a few, but my problem still exists, I think I have to continue to like 15 flushes (they are a pain)...I myself have a slight jaundice in the eyes (slight yellow tinge)...and am allergic to apples, pears, plums, almonds, hazel nuts, raw carrots...its a real pain, and dont know if the food allergy is related to intestines or the liver or both? Amit > > I once had Hep A and during that time I broke out in > hives. Seems like the > > connection to the liver and hives is correct. The following year I > had my > > first Gallbladder attack. Hope you get to the bottom of it SOON and > stop > > itching! > > > > AJ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this substitute and it needs to be discarded. This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to waste from protein and fat. This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be cured from the inside of the body. My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic diseases. To your health, DR. M. Vos. Naturopathic Physician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Why is there so many vegetarians that suffer from gallstones? Vos wrote: >The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro >Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. > >First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. >The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to >digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, >Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. >This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has >certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. > >However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, >Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before >your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. >Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas >production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, >Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. > >When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT >and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these >patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing >digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this >substitute and it needs to be discarded. > >This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a >good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything >with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to >waste from protein and fat. > >This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the >bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as >DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic >at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. > >As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The >SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to >Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. >The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the >dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. >HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be >cured from the inside of the body. > >My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your >daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: >Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same >laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? > >It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is >loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic >diseases. > >To your health, DR. M. Vos. Naturopathic Physician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > >Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > >Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > >Images: >http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ >http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > >To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > >To Post message: gallstones >Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > >Web Sites for more information: >http://CureZone.org >http://www.liverdoctor.com/ >http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ >http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm >http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html >http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > >Group page: gallstones > >To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest >To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail >To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal >You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! >Have a nice day ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I haven't eaten any meat since 1983 -- and seldom ate pork products prior to that -- and had my first gallbladder attacks last year. G & K Murray <kgtnm@...> wrote: Why is there so many vegetarians that suffer from gallstones? Vos wrote: >The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro >Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. > >First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. >The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to >digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, >Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. >This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has >certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. > >However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, >Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before >your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. >Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas >production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, >Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. > >When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT >and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these >patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing >digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this >substitute and it needs to be discarded. > >This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a >good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything >with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to >waste from protein and fat. > >This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the >bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as >DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic >at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. > >As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The >SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to >Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. >The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the >dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. >HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be >cured from the inside of the body. > >My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your >daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: >Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same >laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? > >It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is >loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic >diseases. > >To your health, DR. M. Vos. Naturopathic Physician. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 >http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > >Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > >Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > >Images: >http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ >http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > >To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > >To Post message: gallstones >Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > >Web Sites for more information: >http://CureZone.org >http://www.liverdoctor.com/ >http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ >http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm >http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html >http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > >Group page: gallstones > >To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest >To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail >To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal >You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! >Have a nice day ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I would love to make you a FREE alternative diagnose, but you have to mail me on my email address and apply for a questionnaire. Hope the group moderator allows this. Kind regards, Dr. m. Vos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 I spoke to someone quite knowledgable i homeopathic medicine the other day and part of the reason a vegetarian can suffer from gallstones is that they may be eating foods they're allergic to. We need to eat according to our blood type. Simply giving up meat alone is not a cure all. For instance, I am a type O and this requires that I stay away from excess amounts of wheat and corn. By overindulging in these things, it causes the red blood cells to clump up and move inefficiently. This then causes the bile to move inefficiently causing it to become sludgy. The poor quality of the bile and its ineffective movement leave substances behind that ultimately form gallstones. I only wish I knew all of this sooner. I just had my gallbladder removed, yet no one will tell me the actual condition of my gall bladder after removal. In other words, was it a necessity or just playtime for the surgeon???? > > >The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro > >Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. > > > >First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. > >The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to > >digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, > >Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. > >This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has > >certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. > > > >However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, > >Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before > >your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. > >Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas > >production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, > >Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. > > > >When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT > >and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these > >patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing > >digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this > >substitute and it needs to be discarded. > > > >This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a > >good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything > >with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to > >waste from protein and fat. > > > >This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the > >bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as > >DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic > >at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. > > > >As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The > >SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to > >Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. > >The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the > >dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. > >HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be > >cured from the inside of the body. > > > >My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your > >daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: > >Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same > >laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? > > > >It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is > >loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic > >diseases. > > > >To your health, DR. M. Vos. 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Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 THIS IS A SHAMEFULLY IGNORANT STATEMENT: " the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. " - Vos <vos@...> wrote: The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this substitute and it needs to be discarded. This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to waste from protein and fat. This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be cured from the inside of the body. My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic diseases. To your health, DR. M. Vos. Naturopathic Physician. --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 > . > The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the > dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. > HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be > cured from the inside of the body. > I can personally attest to this. After suffering a pesticide poisoning that affected my heart, lungs and bones, I developed hives for the first time in my life. When my body started healing from the inside, it showed on my skin. I had hives from my forehead to my ankles. Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 While I may not totally agree with Dr. Voss's statement, I can appreciate the viewpoint and possibly take something of value away from the discussion. If you feel that it is a " shamefully ignorant " statement, PLEASE elaborate and elucidate your position. It rings hollow and has no teeth without. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Liz Sapareto<mailto:lizsapar@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: HIVES THIS IS A SHAMEFULLY IGNORANT STATEMENT: " the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. " - Vos <vos@...<mailto:vos@...>> wrote: The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this substitute and it needs to be discarded. This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to waste from protein and fat. This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be cured from the inside of the body. My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic diseases. To your health, DR. M. Vos. Naturopathic Physician. --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I have been a vegetarian for 44 years and passed more than 15,000 gallstones after 51 flushes. I question the validity of Dr. Voss's statement about meat products or animals fats causing gallstones. With all my research as a novice into the subject of gallstones, my conclusion is there is no definitive reason yet, as why there are gallstones. It is hinted that non-fat diets and lack of hydration (drinking sufficient amounts of water) may lead to the formation of gallstones. The issue is the options on how to rid the body of gallstones if the gallbladder is diseased, not functioning, and/or causing pain. One is cholecystectomy (removal of the gallbladder) or doing liver-gallbladder flushes. Thanks, Waters Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote: While I may not totally agree with Dr. Voss's statement, I can appreciate the viewpoint and possibly take something of value away from the discussion. If you feel that it is a " shamefully ignorant " statement, PLEASE elaborate and elucidate your position. It rings hollow and has no teeth without. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Liz Sapareto<mailto:lizsapar@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: HIVES THIS IS A SHAMEFULLY IGNORANT STATEMENT: " the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. " - Vos <vos@...<mailto:vos@...>> wrote: The ALTERNATIVE VIEW on HIVES, and proven with Iridology and Electro Acupuncture in my private medical clinic for over 35 years. First of we have to understand what the real cause of GALLSTONES is. The cause of gallstones is the incapability of the patients body to digest the food element ANIMAL FAT. Most patient do not like PORK, Sausages, Ham and Pork Chops. This undigested fat is a burden to the LIVER and GALLBLADDER and has certain consequences, which vary from patient to patient. However our daily food consists of 5 basic element: Water, Sugar, Fat, Protein and Carbohydrates. All 4 solid needs to be digested before your body can use them to build new body cells to replace the old ones. Western medical doctors can only diagnose a failure in the pancreas production of insulin, but the pancreas also produces: LIPASE for fat, Pepsin for protein and Amylase for carbohydrates. When the LIPASE production fails your body is short of DIGESTED FAT and the cell building is in trouble. At that point the body of these patient starts producing a new product to substitute for the missing digested fat. However the body of most patients do not accept this substitute and it needs to be discarded. This substitute is made from SUGAR and regarded by the kidneys as a good product so they won't discard it, and the liver won't do anything with it since it is based on sugar, and their job is restricted to waste from protein and fat. This means that this substitute keeps floating around in the bloodstream, reason why many of these patients are diagnosed as DIABETICS, but not the TYPE 1, but the TYPE 2, which is not diabetic at all, since it is a " FAT-Patient " , not able to digest FAT. As a last resort the body will use it's last discarding organ: The SKIN. All skin problems from Acne to Psoriasis, and from Eczema to Rash and also the HIVES are a result of this. The only way to solve these skin problems is certainly not the dermatologist who doesn't even know what the cause of the problem is. HIVES and all other skin problems come from the inside and can only be cured from the inside of the body. My advice , and trust me it works: Omit all the ANIMAL FAT in your daily food, especially the poisonous PORK and pork products. Mind you: Jews don't eat pork it is in their laws, but Muslims have the same laws about pork, only western communities eat pork, WHY??? It's cheap, it tastes good and it's easy to breed pigs, but it is loaded with hidden hard to digest FAT. And the cause of many chronic diseases. To your health, DR. M. Vos. Naturopathic Physician. --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 saw my gastroenterologist to schedule a colonoscopy and he noticed the rash across my collarbone exposed by my top button being undone. I've posted about this before. I told him I've had that rash on and off for a couple years, whenever I start to get down on my steroids it flares up, the steroids not only help the asthma (and I'm hoping the Xolair will get me off them entirely)... it also suppresses whatever chronic hive condition I have going on. He agreed. He said it looked like a reaction rash, that I could be allergic to one of my medications. Eliminating anything I have I might have switched to last summer or discontinued using (I've had this rash a lot longer) that leaves me with uniphyl, nexium, singulair, fosamax, over the counter Feosol and Percogesic as what I consume regularly. Has anyone ever had a rash reaction from any of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 > > saw my gastroenterologist to schedule a colonoscopy and he noticed the > rash across my collarbone exposed by my top button being undone. I've > posted about this before. I told him I've had that rash on and off for > a couple years, whenever I start to get down on my steroids it flares > up, the steroids not only help the asthma (and I'm hoping the Xolair > will get me off them entirely)... it also suppresses whatever chronic > hive condition I have going on. He agreed. > > He said it looked like a reaction rash, that I could be allergic to > one of my medications. Eliminating anything I have I might have > switched to last summer or discontinued using (I've had this rash a > lot longer) that leaves me with uniphyl, nexium, singulair, fosamax, > over the counter Feosol and Percogesic as what I consume regularly. > Has anyone ever had a rash reaction from any of these? > I had a rash too and my family doc said it looked like a reaction. I went to the dermatologist and it turned out to be Psoriasis. It is not on my face so I am not complaining. I use a prescription cream called " Taclonex. " It works GREAT Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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