Re: Dissolving Kidney Stones

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lemon juice dissolves kidney stones.

my husband began drinking lemon juice regularly ( no sugar just plain in water ) for other reasons, not even realizing he had kidney stones, until he passed two of them in a 24 hour period. after that i looked around on the net a bit and discovered that lemon juice will turn kidney stones soft andmushy allowing them to pass.

Peace,

Cathie

In a message dated 7/26/2004 1:50:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time, irishfox@... writes:

I had a friend who just e-=mailed me that she has kidney stones and

wants to know what to do. The Ultimate cleanse but does that dissolve

the stones? How do you dissolve the stones...she is not in real pain

yet but was diagnsed by her Physician.

Thanks for your help

Anne

VA USA

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In a message dated 7/26/2004 5:08:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time, irishfox@... writes:

Wow, this is great! How much lemon juice did he drink every day and for about how long. How much in a glass of water?

Thanks,

Anne

Well, he didnt' follow any kind of scientific formula, but he did also quit drinking a pot of coffee every morning and I feel that also helped, as coffee has oxolates in it that combine with cholesterol to make the kidney stones ( i think that's how it works ).

He was drinking a couple tablespoons of lemon juice in water throughout the day. But if you do a google search on kidney stones and lemon juice, I'm sure you'll find plenty. Also, search for the 'Lemonaide Cleanse"

which I've heard is good.

Like I said, there are "methods" on the net that are supposed to dissolve them overnight, but in my husband's case all he did was innocently drink lemon juice. Of course I was making cabbage salad every evening with lemon juice and garlic and olive oil dressing, so that may have helped also, as I notice one of the formulas called for lemon juice and olive oil.

Blessings,

Cathie

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In a message dated 7/26/2004 5:08:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time, irishfox@... writes:

Wow, this is great! How much lemon juice did he drink every day and for about how long. How much in a glass of water?

Thanks,

Anne

Btw, Lemon juice will dissolve Teeth, also, so if you drink lemon juice be sure to swish your mouth out with water afterward !!!

Peace,

Cathie

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This is the file on kidney stones I've accummulated

Pam

KIDNEY STONE DISSOLVING FORMULA AND ROUTINE This routine takes 2

days and can be repeated. Take a gallon jug and fill it with 3

quarts (96 ounces) of Fresh Squeezed Organic Apple Juice. Use strong

apples that have a lot of organic mallic acid, that make you pucker,

not some tasteless politically correct delicious apples that have

little or no nutritional or medicinal benefit at all. Add 20 ounces

of Fresh Squeezed Organic Citrus Juice, Lemon and Lime half and half

is best. Then add 10 ounces of Organic, Raw, Unfiltered Apple Cider

Vinegar. Add 2 ounces of Kidney and Bladder Formula and 2 entire

packages of Kidney and Bladder Tea. Let this mixture steep in a warm

place for a whole day, shaking every couple of hours for a minute or

two. If you have a real serious stone problem, add a few additional

ounces of Hydrangea root and a few more ounces of Gravel root to

this brew. To make this Formula stronger, mix all the ingredients in

a blender. This will break down and smash all the herbs. Let this

sit for 24 hours, then strain through a stainless steel strainer or

squeeze through a clean, cotton T-shirt. The strained formula must

now be kept in the refrigerator until it is all consumed. The next

day after it has brewed, drink 4 ounces an hour of the liquid. You

can even drink an ounce every 15 minutes. Considering that you sleep

8 hours and are up for 16, if you drink 4 ounces every hour that you

are awake, you will consume a total of 64 ounces each day which

means this brew will last you almost 2 days. You will also be

drinking some distilled water, up to 64 ounces a day. Only distilled

water, the emptiest water is allowed. Distilled water is so empty,

it is like a vacuum, it is the universal solvent especially for

unwanted mineral deposits. Just by drinking distilled water on a

regular basis you dissolve stones, and prevent new ones from

forming, but when added to this routine, you'll have a real winner.

Candace

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" Herbs capable of preventing the formation of stones in the kidneys

or urinary tract - Buchu, Couchgrass, Golden Rod, Gravel Root,

Nettle and Uva Ursi " - taken from the Australasian College of Herbal

Studies notes. Persian

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Kidney Stones

Kidney Stones

Home KIDNEY STONES (Renal Calculi) AND THEIR RELATION TO

DIET

There are five types of kidney stones:

1. Calcium phosphate stones are common and easily dissolve in urine

acidified by Vitamin C.

2. Calcium oxalate stones are also common but they do not dissolve

in acid urine.

3. Magnesium ammonium phosphate (struvite stones) are much less

common, often appearing after an infection. They dissolve in vitamin

C acidified urine.

4. Uric acid stones result from a problem metabolizing purines (the

chemical base of adenine, xanthine, theobromine [in chocolate] and

uric acid). They may form in a condition such as gout.

5. Cystine stones result from a hereditary inability to reabsorb

cystine. Most children's stones are this type, and these are rare.

The Role of Vitamin C in Preventing and Dissolving Kidney Stones:

The very common calcium phosphate stone can only exist in a urinary

tract that is not acidic. Ascorbic acid (vitamin C's most common

form) acidifies the urine, thereby dissolving phosphate stones and

preventing their formation.

Acidic urine will also dissolve magnesium ammonium phosphate stones,

which would otherwise require surgical removal. These are the same

struvite stones associated with urinary tract infections. Both the

infection and the stone are easily cured with vitamin C in large

doses. BOTH are virtually 100% preventable with daily consumption of

much-greater-than-RDA amounts of ascorbic acid. Think grams, not

milligrams! A gorilla gets about 4,000 mg of vitamin C a day in its

natural diet. The US RDA for humans is only 60 mg. Someone is wrong,

and I don't think it's the gorillas.

The common calcium oxalate stone can form in an acidic urine whether

one takes vitamin C or not. However, if a person gets adequate

quantities of B-complex vitamins and magnesium, this type of stone

does not form. Any common B-complex supplement twice daily, plus

about 400 milligrams of magnesium, is usually adequate.

Ascorbate (the active ion in vitamin C) does increase the body's

production of oxalate. Yet, in practice, vitamin C does not increase

oxalate stone formation. Drs. Emanuel Cheraskin, Marshall Ringsdorf,

Jr. and Sisley explain in The Vitamin C Connection (1983) that

acidic urine or slightly acidic urine reduces the UNION of calcium

and oxalate, reducing the possibility of stones. " Vitamin C in the

urine tends to bind calcium and decrease its free form. This means

less chance of calcium's separating out as calcium oxalate

(stones). " (page 213) Also, the diuretic effect of vitamin C reduces

the static conditions necessary for stone formation in general. Fast

moving rivers deposit little silt.

Furthermore, you can avoid excessive oxalates by not eating (much)

rhubarb, spinach, or chocolate. If a doctor thinks that a person is

especially prone to forming oxalate stones, they may take their

vitamin C in a buffered form. Instead of ascorbic acid, they might

use vitamin C as non-acidic " ascorbate. " Magnesium, calcium, sodium

and potassium ascorbates are all non-acidic. Other " buffered "

vitamin C preparations are usually made from ascorbic acid mixed

with powdered limestone (Dolomite). Linus ing says you can take

a little sodium bicarbonate with ascorbic acid to neutralize it.

Ways for ANYONE to reduce the risk of kidney stones:

1. Maximize fluid intake. Especially drink fruit and vegetable

juices. Orange, grape and carrot juices are high in citrates which

inhibit both a build up of uric acid and also stop calcium salts

from forming. (Carper, J. " Orange Juice May Prevent Kidney Stones, "

Lancaster Intelligencer-Journal, Jan 5, 1994)

2. Control urine pH: acidic urine helps prevent urinary tract

infections, dissolves both phosphate and struvite stones, and will

not cause oxalate stones.

3. Eat your veggies: studies have shown that dietary oxalate is

generally not a significant factor in stone formation. I would go

easy on rhubarb and spinach, however.

4. Most kidney stones are compounds of calcium and most Americans

are calcium deficient. Instead of lowering calcium intake, reduce

excess dietary phosphorous by avoiding carbonated soft drinks,

especially colas. Soft drinks contain excessive quantities of

phosphorous as phosphoric acid. This is the same acid that has been

used by dentists to etch tooth enamel before applying sealant.

Remember that Americans get only about 500 mg of dietary calcium

daily, and the RDA is 800 to 1200 mg/day. Any nutritionist, doctor

or text suggesting calcium reduction is in serious error.

5. Take a magnesium supplement of AT LEAST the US RDA of 300-350

mg/day (more may be desirable in order to maintain an ideal 1:2

balance of magnesium to calcium)

6. Be certain to take a good B-complex vitamin supplement daily,

which contains pyridoxine (Vitamin B-6). B-6 deficiency produces

kidney stones in experimental animals. Remember:

* B-6 deficiency is very common in humans

* B-1 (thiamine) deficiency also is associated with stones (Hagler

and Herman, " Oxalate Metabolism, II " American Journal of Clinical

Nutrition, 26:8, 882-889, August, 1973)

7. Additionally, low calcium may itself CAUSE calcium stones (L. H.

, et al, " Medical Evaluation of Urolithiasis " Urological

Clinics of North America 1:2, 241-260, June 1974)

8. For uric acid/purine stones (gout), STOP EATING MEAT! Nutrition

tables and textbooks indicate meats as the major dietary purine

source. Naturopathic treatment adds juice fasts and eating sour

cherries. Increased Vitamin C consumption helps by improving the

urinary excretion of uric acid. (Cheraskin, et al, 1983). Use

buffered ascorbate " C " .

9. Persons with cystine stones (only 1% of all kidney stones) should

follow a low methionine diet and use buffered C.

10. Kidney stones are associated with high sugar intake, so eat less

(or no) added sugar (J. A. Thom, et al " The Influence of Refined

Carbohydrate on Urinary Calcium Excretion, " British Journal of

Urology, 50:7, 459-464, December, 1978)

11. Infections can cause conditions that favor stone formation, such

as overly concentrated urine (from fever sweating, vomiting or

diarrhea). Practice good preventive health care, and it will pay you

back with interest.

REFERENCES:

Cheraskin, Ringsdorf Jr., and Sisley: The Vitamin C Connection,

Harper and Row, 1983

ing, Linus " Are Kidney Stones Associated with Vitamin C Intake? "

Today's Living, September, 1981

ing, Linus " Crystals in the Kidney, " Linus ing Institute

Newsletter, 1:11, Spring, 1981

ing, Linus How to Live Longer and Feel Better, Freeman, 1986

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> I had a friend who just e-=mailed me that she has kidney stones

and

> wants to know what to do. The Ultimate cleanse but does that

dissolve

> the stones? How do you dissolve the stones...she is not in real

pain

> yet but was diagnsed by her Physician.

> Thanks for your help

> Anne

> VA USA

[Guest guest]

I sent the info on lemon juice to my friend who's a Nurse Practitioner who suffers from kidney stones (she gets a bit mad with me when I send her some of the "folk remedy" stuff, but I do it anyway :-)) She said that the lemon juice didn't work for her, but that drinking lots of beer does make them pass more quickly :-) FWIW, and the K9's

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Her recipe is 100% - go alkaline - only fruits and veg -dairy

No coffee -tea - meat-poultry-pasta-bread-rice-cereal

relief of pain is almost immediate. They all dissolve.

kalapanakyle <kalapanakyle@...> wrote:

aloha, I recently found out that I have big(4 cm, not mm) kidney

stones and am wondering what success any one has had doing Dr clark's

kidney cleanse. I've already ordered a bottle of Uriflow(it's all

natural, and 100% guaranteed), which I found out about from a link on

dr. clarks site, I would really appreciate some feedback or a lead to

where I can get some.

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