RE: Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

[Guest guest]

I wonder how many of us have had many episodes of mild

anaphlyxsis.  Thanks for the advice.  I always keep my epi

pens and children's liquid benadryl around plus pepsid, zyrtec,

zofran, etc.  It is all so complicated.

I am sooo glad that you recovered. 

Best,

Leigh

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From: instdesgn1 <instdesgn1@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 4:33:27 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

 

Thanks for sharing! I had no idea that different antihistamines block different

allergic responses. The hydroxyzine would have me totally whacked out for a

couple days! Compazine absolutely blew my mind and put me into repeat severe

panic/anxiety attacks for years. It might have been complicated by prednisone

for a few weeks as well as anticholinergic drugs (this was *many* years ago) but

I would not take it now. I usually reach for the 3 or 4 day tapering dose of

oral Triamcinolone.

>

> Hi All,

>

> This is a bit embarrassing because it turns out I didn't do 1/3 of what you're

supposed to do but I'm sharing this because I hope someone else might benefit.

On July 4th, we had a big family party outside and as per usual some of my many

food allergens were around (watermelon & shrimp) so I thought I'd be fine just

avoiding them as much as possible. Well, evidently not because despite just

having my Xolair 4 days prior, I broke out in horrific hives - it looked like I

was mutating or something. I took 1 25mg atarax(hydroxyzine) and thought that

was sufficient to stop the reaction without putting me to sleep (atarax is a

powerful sedative in addition to being one of the best antihistamines out

there), the hives grew, so 2 hours later I took another 25mg of atarax. The

hives continued to grow, up to my chest/neck, so I took another 25mg of atarax 2

hours after that. Then I slept for 9 hours, woke up the next morning with the

hives exactly the same size

and the same locations as they were the previous day. At that point I

remembered that one of the pills (compazine) that I had been prescribed during

my pancreatitis bit last fall was also an antihistamine, so I took 10mg of that

and the hives seemingly magically disappeared.

>

> I brought this 'event' up with my doctor when I saw him (for the first time

since this happened) this week. I brought it up kinda casually and confident in

that I treated it correctly and my pulmo/allergist was like " Meagan you had a

mild form of anaphylaxis, you could've gone to the ER. " But he said in the

future if that happens again, and I don't go to the ER, not to treat it with

just atarax at first because that's an H1 blocker and hives can be caused by

H2's. He said that what I'm supposed to do is take 50mg of atarax every 4 hours,

150mg of Zantac (H2 blocker) every 12 hours while symptoms persist and 1

Singulair (which I take daily anyway). So I thought atarax covered hives, and it

turns out it doesn't completely. The compazine that I took the next day is an H2

blocker, and my hives were H2 mediated apparently, so that's why the compazine

worked so well.

>

> Anyway, I just wanted to let people know, so that you don't make the same

mistake I did.

>

> Enjoy the rest of the weekend,

> Meagan

>

[Guest guest]

my sister was given tedral in tablet form....a very small tablet.  I remember

having to take one on time when I had an asthma attack.  it made me very shaky. 

I was probably about 9 or 10 at the time.  I can still remember curling up in

the big living room chair and sleeping after my breathing settled down a bit. 

Wow...that was a long time ago!

From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:00 PM

 

>

> Hives were a regular part of my allergic response pattern

> as a child; my allergiest never associated them with

> anaphylaxis. I suspect it varies depending on the nature

> and length of the response, but I don't know.

>

> I took a regular antihistamine for children (I'm

> assuming it was an H2) that came in liquid form and

> smelled terrible. I will remember that smell until the

> day I die.

>

> Addy

> Group co-owner

>

>

>

Addy,

I remember taking Tedral in liquid form in the 60's, It was thick, yellow and

tasted like licorice, which I HATE! I will NEVER forget that taste either. YUCK!

For you younger people who have never heard of this OLD asthma drug, here is a

website telling what it is:

http://www.mayoclin ic.com/health/ drug-information /DR600409

Doug

[Guest guest]

AAGGHHHH!  Quadrinal!!  I have nightmares about that stuff!! I was about 7 when

I was first put on that. Do they even make that anymore?! I thought it was

banned in the  late 70's because it caused irregular heart beats.  If it wasn't

that it was some other med I took for my asthma when I was younger.

When I was young I did the Vick's vaporizer and my parents 7 or grandparents

would lightly pat me on my back to help loosen the " gunk " .   have been told that

the  patting on the  back is also something CF patients do to help loosen up the

 gunk in the  lungs. 

From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 4:40 PM

 

>

> my sister was given tedral in tablet form....a very small tablet.  I remember

having to take one on time when I had an asthma attack.  it made me very shaky. 

I was probably about 9 or 10 at the time.  I can still remember curling up in

the big living room chair and sleeping after my breathing settled down a bit. 

Wow...that was a long time ago!

>

I remember as a small child in the early 60's how my mom used to take me into a

steam filled bathroom to try and help my breathing.

Also, she would rock me in her arms and sing hymns of comfort to me.

Another pill I took was Quadrinal. It was very similar to Tedral.

http://www.medicati ons.com/drugs/ quadrinal

To me, those were the covered wagon days in asthma treatment.

Today, I live a normal life thanks to Xolair

[Guest guest]

Yep.  My mom often held my sister in her lap against her chest to help my sister

breathe easily.  And as my sister got older, I would often rub her shoulders and

back to ease the pain of struggling to breathe and to help her relax.  There

were a lot of rough nights and days.  But God gave Mom the strength.  At one

time when she needed sleep and when my sister needed breathing relief and sleep,

God gave Mom the 91st Psalm.  It helped and mom often referred to that Psalm all

of her life.

From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:40 PM

 

>

> my sister was given tedral in tablet form....a very small tablet.  I remember

having to take one on time when I had an asthma attack.  it made me very shaky. 

I was probably about 9 or 10 at the time.  I can still remember curling up in

the big living room chair and sleeping after my breathing settled down a bit. 

Wow...that was a long time ago!

>

I remember as a small child in the early 60's how my mom used to take me into a

steam filled bathroom to try and help my breathing.

Also, she would rock me in her arms and sing hymns of comfort to me.

Another pill I took was Quadrinal. It was very similar to Tedral.

http://www.medicati ons.com/drugs/ quadrinal

To me, those were the covered wagon days in asthma treatment.

Today, I live a normal life thanks to Xolair

[Guest guest]

I took Quadrinal too. That medicine helped me quite a bit!

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of uca79iii

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:40 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

>

> my sister was given tedral in tablet form....a very small tablet. I remember

having to take one on time when I had an asthma attack. it made me very shaky.

I was probably about 9 or 10 at the time. I can still remember curling up in

the big living room chair and sleeping after my breathing settled down a bit.

Wow...that was a long time ago!

>

I remember as a small child in the early 60's how my mom used to take me into a

steam filled bathroom to try and help my breathing.

Also, she would rock me in her arms and sing hymns of comfort to me.

Another pill I took was Quadrinal. It was very similar to Tedral.

http://www.medications.com/drugs/quadrinal

To me, those were the covered wagon days in asthma treatment.

Today, I live a normal life thanks to Xolair

[Guest guest]

Quadrinal was probably one of the first medicines that actually worked for me.

That was until it enlarged my thyroid. Then I went to another medicine

Veriquad.

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of K K

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:04 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

AAGGHHHH! Quadrinal!! I have nightmares about that stuff!! I was about 7 when

I was first put on that. Do they even make that anymore?! I thought it was

banned in the late 70's because it caused irregular heart beats. If it wasn't

that it was some other med I took for my asthma when I was younger.

When I was young I did the Vick's vaporizer and my parents 7 or grandparents

would lightly pat me on my back to help loosen the " gunk " . have been told that

the patting on the back is also something CF patients do to help loosen up the

gunk in the lungs.

--- On Mon, 8/10/09, uca79iii <uca79iii@...<mailto:uca79iii%40gmail.com>>

wrote:

From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...<mailto:uca79iii%40gmail.com>>

Subject: [ ] Re: Forms of Anaphylaxis

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Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 4:40 PM

>

> my sister was given tedral in tablet form....a very small tablet. I remember

having to take one on time when I had an asthma attack. it made me very shaky.

I was probably about 9 or 10 at the time. I can still remember curling up in

the big living room chair and sleeping after my breathing settled down a bit.

Wow...that was a long time ago!

>

I remember as a small child in the early 60's how my mom used to take me into a

steam filled bathroom to try and help my breathing.

Also, she would rock me in her arms and sing hymns of comfort to me.

Another pill I took was Quadrinal. It was very similar to Tedral.

http://www.medicati ons.com/drugs/ quadrinal

To me, those were the covered wagon days in asthma treatment.

Today, I live a normal life thanks to Xolair