Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? Meri ________________________________ From: Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:51:34 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Supplemental meds Be sure to use a spacer with any inhaler especially one which contains a steroid. Pursed lip breathing, rehab exercises, any exercise really when you are feeling well enough have always helped me to come to normalish pfts. Leigh ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Carol Corley <floridabouvs@ gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:04:30 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Supplemental meds Thanks, Addy. The thing is, I hate inhalers and would really rather take Singulair. But I suspect the inhaler is probably what I need right now. My peak-flow has dropped to the 250-300 range. Is there anything else I can do to get it back up? I exercise. Thanks again. Carol If you got an asthmanex inhaler, those are reasonably safe and usually very effective. Singulair works much differently, and may take a few days to take effect. Normally I see effect from adding asthmanex in about 24 hours. Addy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > Meri > > http://www.cchs.net/health/health-info/docs/2400/2408.asp?index=9443 I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I heard of it from a therapist that my allergist had interning in his office one summer, probably 15 years ago. Then when I had pulmonary therapy about three years ago, it is the kind of breathing they taught us to help us relax when we were having breathing problems. Take as deep a breath as you can, purse the lips so that you have to " push " the air out and do it very slowly. Or let the air fill your mouth until your cheeks puff out and then breath out very slowly. It is the tightening of the lips to make you " push " the air out slowly. I have used it for many years at night when I would have minor sob lying down. Not only has it helped, but it is also relaxing. I taught my students this kind of breathing when I taught speech. It helped them relax before giving a speech. I hope I have described it right. And oh, Doug, I know you know this...the therapists put weights on the area right under where there ribs meet and made us breathe from our diaphragm. Years of choir, playing for voice teachers helped me know the concept of breathing with the diaphragm. Okay....I just spent time writing all of this, decided to google pursed lip breathing and the first article I opened said: " One of the best ways to help control shortness of breath is 'pursed lip breathing.' " It has pictures and a step by step. It is very good! Adah From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...> Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > Meri > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? index=9443 I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I just wrote about this. google " pursed lip breathing " and the first article or probably any of them will tell you about it. From: Meri Simon <prankstermeri@...> Subject: Re: [ ] pursed lip breathing Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:35 PM Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? Meri ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:51:34 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Supplemental meds Be sure to use a spacer with any inhaler especially one which contains a steroid. Pursed lip breathing, rehab exercises, any exercise really when you are feeling well enough have always helped me to come to normalish pfts. Leigh ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Carol Corley <floridabouvs@ gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:04:30 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Supplemental meds Thanks, Addy. The thing is, I hate inhalers and would really rather take Singulair. But I suspect the inhaler is probably what I need right now. My peak-flow has dropped to the 250-300 range. Is there anything else I can do to get it back up? I exercise. Thanks again. Carol If you got an asthmanex inhaler, those are reasonably safe and usually very effective. Singulair works much differently, and may take a few days to take effect. Normally I see effect from adding asthmanex in about 24 hours. Addy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I was told about this by my Optometrist, go figure. I use it daily, possibly in a modified form from here. Whenever my breathing becomes " labored " or " difficult " which is sometimes several times a day, I breath in normally and breath out by pursing my lips like I'm going to whistle, restricting the exhale slightly. I now find myself doing it automatically like today when leaving Walmart I needed to " Catch my breath " so I was breathing in this manner automatically. I kinda smiled at myself wondering what anybody would be thinking watching me. Hey, the guy is whistling but I don't hear nothing! " Anyway, it helps a lot in " recovering quickly " . Ron On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, asthmatic50@... wrote: > > I heard of it from a therapist that my allergist had interning in > his office one summer, probably 15 years ago. Then when I had > pulmonary therapy about three years ago, it is the kind of breathing > they taught us to help us relax when we were having breathing > problems. > > Take as deep a breath as you can, purse the lips so that you have to > " push " the air out and do it very slowly. Or let the air fill your > mouth until your cheeks puff out and then breath out very slowly. > It is the tightening of the lips to make you " push " the air out > slowly. > > I have used it for many years at night when I would have minor sob > lying down. Not only has it helped, but it is also relaxing. I > taught my students this kind of breathing when I taught speech. It > helped them relax before giving a speech. > > I hope I have described it right. And oh, Doug, I know you know > this...the therapists put weights on the area right under where > there ribs meet and made us breathe from our diaphragm. Years of > choir, playing for voice teachers helped me know the concept of > breathing with the diaphragm. > Okay....I just spent time writing all of this, decided to google > pursed lip breathing and the first article I opened said: " One of > the best ways to help control shortness of breath is 'pursed lip > breathing.' " > > It has pictures and a step by step. It is very good! > > Adah > > > > From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing > > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > Meri > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > index=9443 > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > one. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Pursed lip breathing is excellent for controlling the sensation of being sob. So is putting a fan on your face. It stimulates the facial nerve and makes it feel like breathing is easier. We use that with palliative care patients. I always sleep with a fan on my face. Well not ON my face. Lol. Blowing on my face. Heheh. C ps Vicks makes me SUPER sob. Everyone clearly has different triggers! ________________________________ From: Carpenter <cowtrail@...> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:55:09 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing I was told about this by my Optometrist, go figure. I use it daily, possibly in a modified form from here. Whenever my breathing becomes " labored " or " difficult " which is sometimes several times a day, I breath in normally and breath out by pursing my lips like I'm going to whistle, restricting the exhale slightly. I now find myself doing it automatically like today when leaving Walmart I needed to " Catch my breath " so I was breathing in this manner automatically. I kinda smiled at myself wondering what anybody would be thinking watching me. Hey, the guy is whistling but I don't hear nothing! " Anyway, it helps a lot in " recovering quickly " . Ron On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, asthmatic50 wrote: > > I heard of it from a therapist that my allergist had interning in > his office one summer, probably 15 years ago. Then when I had > pulmonary therapy about three years ago, it is the kind of breathing > they taught us to help us relax when we were having breathing > problems. > > Take as deep a breath as you can, purse the lips so that you have to > " push " the air out and do it very slowly. Or let the air fill your > mouth until your cheeks puff out and then breath out very slowly. > It is the tightening of the lips to make you " push " the air out > slowly. > > I have used it for many years at night when I would have minor sob > lying down. Not only has it helped, but it is also relaxing. I > taught my students this kind of breathing when I taught speech. It > helped them relax before giving a speech. > > I hope I have described it right. And oh, Doug, I know you know > this...the therapists put weights on the area right under where > there ribs meet and made us breathe from our diaphragm. Years of > choir, playing for voice teachers helped me know the concept of > breathing with the diaphragm. > Okay....I just spent time writing all of this, decided to google > pursed lip breathing and the first article I opened said: " One of > the best ways to help control shortness of breath is 'pursed lip > breathing.' " > > It has pictures and a step by step. It is very good! > > Adah > > > > From: uca79iii <uca79iiigmail (DOT) com> > Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing > > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > Meri > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > index=9443 > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > one. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 > > Pursed lip breathing is excellent for controlling the sensation of being sob. So is putting a fan on your face. It stimulates the facial nerve and makes it feel like breathing is easier. We use that with palliative care patients. I always sleep with a fan on my face. Well not ON my face. Lol. Blowing on my face. Heheh. > > C > ps Vicks makes me SUPER sob. Everyone clearly has different triggers! > I can't sleep without a CPAP anymore. Clean, fresh, humidified air going into my lungs all night long. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Refreshing nights sleep or even a cat nap My doctor ONLY prescribed me one because I went through a sleep study and was diagnosed with sleep apnea. NO relation to my asthma. PS, I blew a 750 today at the dr's office. I do remember those days before Xolair when I was eating Prednisone like candy and doing good to blow a 150. Doug Group founder On Xolair for just under 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yes, it does. And our therapist told us that even if we had to stop walking to do it, to lean a shoulder against the wall while doing it. In therapy, they gave us numerous aids to use before going for the inhaler. > > From: uca79iii <uca79iiigmail (DOT) com> > Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing > > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > Meri > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > index=9443 > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > one. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yes, the fan blowing on the face was another tip. And we use a fan on low in our bedroom, even in winter. I am with you.....I have to have air circulating around me and over my face.... > > From: uca79iii <uca79iiigmail (DOT) com> > Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing > > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > Meri > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > index=9443 > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > one. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 To each his own. I would feel like I was suffocating if I had to use a mask at night...I guess I would use it if it mean life or death! The pursed lip breathing is great during the day when you can't get to your inhaler or your neb....It really does relax you...... From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...> Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 5:04 PM > > Pursed lip breathing is excellent for controlling the sensation of being sob. So is putting a fan on your face. It stimulates the facial nerve and makes it feel like breathing is easier. We use that with palliative care patients. I always sleep with a fan on my face. Well not ON my face. Lol. Blowing on my face. Heheh. > > C > ps Vicks makes me SUPER sob. Everyone clearly has different triggers! > I can't sleep without a CPAP anymore. Clean, fresh, humidified air going into my lungs all night long. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Refreshing nights sleep or even a cat nap My doctor ONLY prescribed me one because I went through a sleep study and was diagnosed with sleep apnea. NO relation to my asthma. PS, I blew a 750 today at the dr's office. I do remember those days before Xolair when I was eating Prednisone like candy and doing good to blow a 150. Doug Group founder On Xolair for just under 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 > > To each his own. I would feel like I was suffocating if I had to use a mask at night...I guess I would use it if it mean life or death! > > The pursed lip breathing is great during the day when you can't get to your inhaler or your neb....It really does relax you...... > > My mask is a gel-mask that is very comfortable. The machine always keeps pressure up, therefore no feeling of suffocation. I don't know how I lived without it for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Pursed-lipped breathing helps restore proper ventilation in the lungs by helping the lungs empty out more completely upon exhalation. It keeps the airways open, making breathing more effective and less work. Addy Group co-owner > > > > Pursed lip breathing is excellent for controlling the sensation of being sob. So is putting a fan on your face. It stimulates the facial nerve and makes it feel like breathing is easier. We use that with palliative care patients. I always sleep with a fan on my face. Well not ON my face. Lol. Blowing on my face. Heheh. > > > > C > > ps Vicks makes me SUPER sob. Everyone clearly has different triggers! > > > > I can't sleep without a CPAP anymore. Clean, fresh, humidified air going into my lungs all night long. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Refreshing nights sleep or even a cat nap > > My doctor ONLY prescribed me one because I went through a sleep study and was diagnosed with sleep apnea. NO relation to my asthma. > > PS, I blew a 750 today at the dr's office. I do remember those days before Xolair when I was eating Prednisone like candy and doing good to blow a 150. > > Doug > Group founder > On Xolair for just under 6 years > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I know I could use it if it meant life or death or a good night's sleep! A gel mask has to be more comfortable than the plastic masks with oxygen...... Seriously, I am glad there is something to help you sleep! From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...> Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 7:00 PM > > To each his own. I would feel like I was suffocating if I had to use a mask at night...I guess I would use it if it mean life or death! > > The pursed lip breathing is great during the day when you can't get to your inhaler or your neb....It really does relax you...... > > My mask is a gel-mask that is very comfortable. The machine always keeps pressure up, therefore no feeling of suffocation. I don't know how I lived without it for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I remember my therapist saying that.....It really does help! From: pyle456 <jamcculloch2@...> Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:23 PM Pursed-lipped breathing helps restore proper ventilation in the lungs by helping the lungs empty out more completely upon exhalation. It keeps the airways open, making breathing more effective and less work. Addy Group co-owner > > > > Pursed lip breathing is excellent for controlling the sensation of being sob. So is putting a fan on your face. It stimulates the facial nerve and makes it feel like breathing is easier. We use that with palliative care patients. I always sleep with a fan on my face. Well not ON my face. Lol. Blowing on my face. Heheh. > > > > C > > ps Vicks makes me SUPER sob. Everyone clearly has different triggers! > > > > I can't sleep without a CPAP anymore. Clean, fresh, humidified air going into my lungs all night long. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Refreshing nights sleep or even a cat nap > > My doctor ONLY prescribed me one because I went through a sleep study and was diagnosed with sleep apnea. NO relation to my asthma. > > PS, I blew a 750 today at the dr's office. I do remember those days before Xolair when I was eating Prednisone like candy and doing good to blow a 150. > > Doug > Group founder > On Xolair for just under 6 years > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Well, I too, keep a fan on low in my room all the time to keep the air circulating. I also let it blow slightly on my face. As for the pursed lips?? Yes, it does work. I've been doing this for some time on my own. Untill I just read this article, I was unaware of what it was called and if I was the only one that found this silly looking way to breath, a way to ease breathing when it is a littlt difficult. Also---I would like to say, This xolair is finally working. At my last visit, my oxygen hit an all time high of 98. whoo-hoo. Also, I dropped 2 asthma meds and haven't taken 'PREDNISONE' for 3 weeks now,andswitched my Advair 500 for Symbicort and Singulair. More steroids, but not PREDNISONE. -- In , Adah Voigt <asthmatic50@...> wrote: > > Yes, the fan blowing on the face was another tip. And we use a fan on low in our bedroom, even in winter. I am with you.....I have to have air circulating around me and over my face.... > > > > > > From: uca79iii <uca79iiigmail (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing > > > > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > > > Meri > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > > index=9443 > > > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > > one. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 how long have you been getting the xolair? we are anxiously awaiting it to work for my husband but he's only had 3 shots. thanx, maureen k. ________________________________ From: JEANNE <bits122000@...> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:55:47 PM Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing Well, I too, keep a fan on low in my room all the time to keep the air circulating. I also let it blow slightly on my face. As for the pursed lips?? Yes, it does work. I've been doing this for some time on my own. Untill I just read this article, I was unaware of what it was called and if I was the only one that found this silly looking way to breath, a way to ease breathing when it is a littlt difficult. Also---I would like to say, This xolair is finally working. At my last visit, my oxygen hit an all time high of 98. whoo-hoo. Also, I dropped 2 asthma meds and haven't taken 'PREDNISONE' for 3 weeks now,andswitched my Advair 500 for Symbicort and Singulair. More steroids, but not PREDNISONE. -- In , Adah Voigt <asthmatic50@ ...> wrote: > > Yes, the fan blowing on the face was another tip. And we use a fan on low in our bedroom, even in winter. I am with you.....I have to have air circulating around me and over my face.... > > > > > > From: uca79iii <uca79iiigmail (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: pursed lip breathing > > > > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > > > Meri > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > > index=9443 > > > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > > one. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 > > how long have you been getting the xolair? we are anxiously awaiting it to work for my husband but he's only had 3 shots. > thanx, maureen k. > > September will make 6 years for me. Doug Group founder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Yes, I forgot to let you all know how long I've been on xolair. It's been about a year and a half. I was starting to get frustrated with it. Wondering if and when it would work. T he thing to remember is DON'T GIVE UP. iT DOES WORK Thanks to all the articals I've read on this site. I've only written a couple of times, but I read them every day. So yes, Thank You for the support. GO XOLAIR!!! > > > > > > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > > > > > > > Meri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cchs. net/health/ health-info/ docs/2400/ 2408.asp? > > > index=9443 > > > > > > I have been an asthmatic for 50 years and have never heard of this > > > one. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I was told that it creates back pressure and therefore keeps things inflated, alveoli are open and you hold the air in longer. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Meri Simon <prankstermeri@...> wrote: > > > Can someone tell me more about pursed lip breathing? > > Meri > > ________________________________ > From: Leigh McCall-Alton <mccallalton@... <mccallalton%40>> > < %40> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:51:34 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Supplemental meds > > Be sure to use a spacer with any inhaler especially one which contains > a steroid. > Pursed lip breathing, rehab exercises, any exercise really when you are > feeling > well enough have always helped me to come to normalish pfts. > Leigh > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Carol Corley <floridabouvs@ gmail.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:04:30 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: Supplemental meds > > Thanks, Addy. The thing is, I hate inhalers and would really rather take > Singulair. But I suspect the inhaler is probably what I need right now. > My peak-flow has dropped to the 250-300 range. Is there anything else I can > do to get it back up? I exercise. > Thanks again. > Carol > > If you got an asthmanex inhaler, those are reasonably safe and usually very > effective. Singulair works much differently, and may take a few days to > take > effect. Normally I see effect from adding asthmanex in about 24 hours. > > Addy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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