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Hello, I live in Ohio and every few months local grocery stores and

churches will offer screening for diabetes, glaucoma, cholesterol,

etc. I would recommend checking with your local grocery store or

church and ask when they will be having these screenings in your area.

> Hi everyone,

>

> here is my question. Is there a economic way to test for

diabetes

> without going to a physician?

>

> thanks christa

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Also, you may check the senior apartments they generally do screening

every month. Sometimes they want a medicasre/medicaid card and

sometimes not. Depends on the company doing the screenings. The mall

also does many screenings. Glad I could be helpful.

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There is an autoimmune form of diabetes. I think it's called Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults, or LADA. It's a Type 1 diabetes, or Type 1.5.

Why would you want to wait weeks or months to begin dealing with it?

H.

In a message dated 10/27/06 9:15:12 AM, sophie65@... writes:

!!!!!!!!

just had my checkup, and my sugar level is high... and on diabetes.org they specifically put a

possible link between celiac and diabetes... SHIT!

Anybody here? Am I really at risk? or could it be because I'm healing and my gut and my diet

are not completely in sync yet?

The only thing I read (and recommended by my doc) is "exercise". Which I could do. But I also

wonder about the food we cook. Does replacing wheat by rice add so much sugar?

Anyway. I need to live a few weeks/ months chewing on the news, and pay attention to what I

do wrong and improve. And yes, having be on a 3000cal a day diet for over 20years (and thin

as a stick) takes some time to adjust to eating less. :-)

Sophie (31)

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I believe the genetic link between celiac and diabetes

applies primarily to Type I. DQ8 (one of the 'celiac

genes') is also a high risk marker for Type I

Diabetes.

--- Debbie Duncan <debbie@...> wrote:

> Sophie, as I understand it, there is a genetic link

> between celiac

> disease and diabetes -- so strong that many newly

> diagnosed diabetic

> children are being screened for celiac disease. The

> Kaiser Santa

> Clara pediatrician who spoke at the Stanford

> Conference a few years

> ago said that celiac children who do not follow the

> diet are at a

> much higher risk of developing diabetes.

>

> Anecdotally, I've observed this for years: every

> year at the

> Conference there'll be about two diabetics among a

> group of 25

> children. That's not the case in " normal "

> classrooms. They all have

> Type I diabetes, and yours may be Type II (2?).

>

>

> On Oct 27, 2006, at 8:57 AM, sophie_and_martin

> wrote:

>

> > !!!!!!!!

> > just had my checkup, and my sugar level is high...

> and on

> > diabetes.org they specifically put a

> > possible link between celiac and diabetes... SHIT!

> >

> > Anybody here? Am I really at risk? or could it be

> because I'm

> > healing and my gut and my diet

> > are not completely in sync yet?

> >

> > The only thing I read (and recommended by my doc)

> is " exercise " .

> > Which I could do. But I also

> > wonder about the food we cook. Does replacing

> wheat by rice add so

> > much sugar?

> >

> > Anyway. I need to live a few weeks/ months chewing

> on the news, and

> > pay attention to what I

> > do wrong and improve. And yes, having be on a

> 3000cal a day diet

> > for over 20years (and thin

> > as a stick) takes some time to adjust to eating

> less. :-)

> >

> > Sophie (31)

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Ok, sorry. Somehow I missed your original post so now

that I see it I have a few things to add (some of

which you may know).

As I mentioned in my other post, the genetic link

between CD and DM is for Type I (via DQ8, for one).

Type I Diabetes Mellitus is an autoimmune disease

involving destruction of the pancreatic beta cells

that produce insulin. Historically, we have called

and thought of Type I as a disease with onset in

childhood. It used to be called Juvenile Diabetes.

While this term is accurate for a child, it implies

that the disease only affects (or more accurately,

presents) in children. This is NOT the case. People

of any age can develop Type I diabetes (though it is

more common for it to show up in children). We used

to call it MODY (mature onset diabetes of the young)

when it appeared in adults but basically its all type

I. Beta cell destruction is not, at this point,

reversible and there is no 'cure.' All type I

diabetics will reach a point in their disease where

they will require insulin therapy (which will be

lifelong pending other medical advancements in ones

lifetime :). Most of the oral diabetic therapies have

no role in DM type I treatment.

Type II diabetes is not an autoimmune disease. The

primary mechanism of type II is reduced sensitivity to

insulin in muscle and other peripheral tissue. Diet

and exercise are first line treatments and can

successfully manage DM II if caught early. There are

also a number of oral medications available.

Ultimately (especially if earlier stages are not

caught or are poorly managed) DM II can also result in

insulin therapy dependance.

I don't know how high is high in your case (and I'm

certainly not asking you to post it! :) but one high

fasting blood glucose value (it was

fasting-preferabley overnight, right??) isn't a

diagnosis of DM. However, since you have another

autoimmune disease I think your doctor is remiss to

simply assume its a prediabetic type II state and tell

you to exercise. Were you scheduled for further

fasting blood glucose testing? Because management of

the two types is different it is important, in my

opinion, to pursue the differential diagnosis in your

case. It is true that for most people your age

presenting with a high blood sugar level would

probably indicate type II or a prediabetic 'impaired

glucose regulation' state but I think your

co-presentation with CD merits additional examination.

I also think you're on to something with the

rice/wheat exchange. I don't know much about how you

ate before or your diet now but its much easier to

consume whole grains (which have more fiber and less

glycemic impact) as a wheat eater than someone

following the GF diet. Plain white rice has a fairly

high glycemic impact and it can be difficult to find

products that use more brown rice flours. It's hard

enough to find the non-wheat products in the first

place!!

Sorry for the novel. For the record lest anyone think

otherwise I'm not a physician, I'm a pharmacy student,

but we have a good deal of DM training because

pharmacists are becoming key players in assessing and

managing this complicated disease state.

--- sophie_and_martin <sophie65@...> wrote:

> !!!!!!!!

> just had my checkup, and my sugar level is high...

> and on diabetes.org they specifically put a

> possible link between celiac and diabetes... SHIT!

>

> Anybody here? Am I really at risk? or could it be

> because I'm healing and my gut and my diet

> are not completely in sync yet?

>

> The only thing I read (and recommended by my doc) is

> " exercise " . Which I could do. But I also

> wonder about the food we cook. Does replacing wheat

> by rice add so much sugar?

>

> Anyway. I need to live a few weeks/ months chewing

> on the news, and pay attention to what I

> do wrong and improve. And yes, having be on a

> 3000cal a day diet for over 20years (and thin

> as a stick) takes some time to adjust to eating

> less. :-)

>

> Sophie (31)

>

>

>

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thanks for all yoru answers.

no it not over the line. My result was right on the line (100), and my dr just

dropped the

line " pre diabetes. Increase exercise " .

I went online to understant how excercise could possibly be linked to diabetes.

Diabetes.org was a good start... till I read " celiac " and my brain clicked.

No my doctor didnt panick, and my next blood count is scheduled in a year. What

worries

me is what I put in my first message. We are eating abnormaly more carbs than

others.

Thats why I wonder if there is a link and if there is a possibility (and it

seems it's not

stupid to think so), I can NOW change some of our cooking habits so next year

the blood

count is OK. I also fear that not changing my diet slightly kind of soon might

exponentiate

the problem because I " feel " that I'm healing full speed (no/tiny reaction from

the last

contamination!!!) (and assuming that I will indeed plateau at a regular

2000calorie diet)

Last, and specificaly because you are in pharmacy business.

Could you explain the blood testing options?

We bought a good blood pressure machine after hubby got hight numbers in office,

and

monitoring over several months, several times a day really helped him figure out

how to

improve his life style. Considering the price of the copays in this country..

I'd rather spend

100 bucks in a machine.. and do my statistiques over 60 days than spend 3 visits

and 3

labs ;-) (of course, only if it makes sense)

thansk again to all of you. And yes, I'll try to search and label my GF flours

according to

sugars, so I can use them the right way.

Sophie

>

All type I

> diabetics will reach a point in their disease where

> they will require insulin therapy (which will be

> lifelong pending other medical advancements in ones

> lifetime :).

>

> Type II diabetes is not an autoimmune disease. The

> primary mechanism of type II is reduced sensitivity to

> insulin in muscle and other peripheral tissue. Diet

> and exercise are first line treatments and can

> successfully manage DM II if caught early. There are

> also a number of oral medications available.

> Ultimately (especially if earlier stages are not

> caught or are poorly managed) DM II can also result in

> insulin therapy dependance.

>

>

> I also think you're on to something with the

> rice/wheat exchange. I don't know much about how you

> ate before or your diet now but its much easier to

> consume whole grains (which have more fiber and less

> glycemic impact) as a wheat eater than someone

> following the GF diet. Plain white rice has a fairly

> high glycemic impact and it can be difficult to find

> products that use more brown rice flours. It's hard

> enough to find the non-wheat products in the first

> place!!

>

>

>

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