Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Good advice Addy. I remember in 2006, Pre Xolair, I was admitted to the hospital for 7 days with confirmed influenza. My Dr said he was barely able to " save me " , and I do not believe that strain was as virulent as the swine flu. I also am not panicking, but I am following your " common sense advise " . I have discovered I am no longer invincible, LOL. Ron On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:29 PM, pyle456 wrote: > > > Not that y'all need any reminders, but: > > Please take care to keep up with what is happening in your own > communities regarding the Swine Flu, and log-in or watch your local > news daily. > > Information about how to guard against getting the flu and what to > do if you suspect you may have it may be found at www.cdc.com. > > Many of us already take precautions on a regular basis, avoiding > crowds, the mall, places like Walmart. Even though we have no > reported outbreaks in my area, I plan to be a little more vigilant > about that, trying to do my errands at non-peak times, etc. > > I'm not panicking over this. I'm not inviting, suggesting, or > encouraging panic. But I recognize that we are a community of people > who are already immune-compromised and whose lungs are not in the > world's best shape. Let's all take good care and err on the side of > caution. > > Addy > Group Co-owner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 But was it really Swine Flu, we can't trust the officials. So sorry about your friend. Jean In a message dated 1/7/2010 1:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tina83862@... writes: We have one friend who died from Swine flu he picked it up on vacation with his family on a crusie ship out of Fla. He was early 50's and very healthy man. fwiw--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 With all due respect to the deceased, here are my thoughts: Was it really the swine flu? If so, was the victim really healthy? I know personally of a local case that was featured on the local news, “Local healthy 27 year-old woman dies of swine fluâ€. This was not true at all, but it sounds dramatic for the news station. She was not healthy by my definition. During her hospital stay before her death, she was diagnosed with a bacterial problem. From what I have read, all of the true deaths from the swine flu (which are very few in number) have had victims that had this bacterial problem that causes respiratory problems, pneumonia, etc. I can’t remember the name of it. But in any case, this bacterial problem is supposedly due to overuse of antibiotics. What a surprise! Again, with all due respect, the victim here was probably 40 to 50 pounds overweight. From what I have read, this increases the odds of contracting H1N1 and also having complications from it. Not healthy by my definition. But the news media wouldn’t know healthy if it hit them in the face. They don’t want to. It is a better story if they sell the story as a healthy woman dying. It is more dramatic and gets people all stirred up. Also, I have read that people who have gotten the seasonal flu shot are at higher risk. Don’t know if true or not, but makes sense to me. Again, these people would be considered healthy – but they have had serious toxins injected into their bodies. Not healthy by my definition. And if you want to take it a step further, the vast majority of people consume the Standard American Diet which plays havoc on the immune system and sets them up for serious problems like these. Again, not my definition of healthy. From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of gingsong@... Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:36 PM gallstones Subject: Re: Swine flu But was it really Swine Flu, we can't trust the officials. So sorry about your friend. Jean In a message dated 1/7/2010 1:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tina83862@...<mailto:tina83862%40> writes: We have one friend who died from Swine flu he picked it up on vacation with his family on a crusie ship out of Fla. He was early 50's and very healthy man. fwiw--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 While the people dying from H1N1 are dying from the " cytokine storm " (an immunal overreaction to the infection which creates a type of pneumonia), it is an over reaction by the immune system (don't like the term, would prefer immunal response). Therefore we are talking about a compromised immune system (there goes that term again). This is like inflammation or fever: They all can kill you but are normal necessary reactions to some type of stress or infection. We did not evolve these, or God create these to kill us. To the contrary, if we did not have these reactions built in we would be in a lot bigger trouble. So we also have moderator systems to control these reactions. Example- You have prostaglandins which are inflammatory and you have prostaglandin moderators to control the reaction. Kind of like having a sympathetic nervous system and a parasympathetic nervous system (again, don't like the term system it insinuates separation). So when we have a reaction go wild we have a functional imbalance or malfunction. The numbers that have died from the swine flu are much lower than the numbers who have died from the regular seasonal flu by the way. I have " treated " many cases of " swine flu " (at least that was their diagnosis from their MD) this year. There are 2 protocols that have worked exceptionally well: The vitamin D protocol which you can find at the Vitamin D Council website I believe, which is 1000iu of D3 per pound of body weight per day (taken all at once) for 7 days. Have seen " symptoms " clear up in a couple of hours (do not discontinue protocol upon relief of symptoms), and second a Chinese formula called Yin Chiao in large quantities. For those that do not know here a couple of statistics: If you had the regular flu shot last year, your chances of contracting the swine flu this year are double. Also if you have had the swine flu shot your chances of contracting the regular flu this year are also doubled. This would indicate that both of them suppress immune function to some extent. Please, please keep yourselves in as good of health as you can, keep nutrient levels up (especially V-D3) and allow your own systems to do their job with as little interference as possible. -D Re: Swine flu But was it really Swine Flu, we can't trust the officials. So sorry about your friend. Jean In a message dated 1/7/2010 1:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tina83862@...<mailto:tina83862%40><mailto:tina83862%40> writes: We have one friend who died from Swine flu he picked it up on vacation with his family on a crusie ship out of Fla. He was early 50's and very healthy man. fwiw--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 it is almost impossible to prove that a person died of the swine flu. can I ask what evidence the doctors gave you on that. and did he get any flu shot prior to that? was he on any medication, they have tremendous side effects, aspirin for example helps eliminate one type of stroke but causes another type of stroke, aspirin always causes microscopic bleeding, up to a tsp a day. I would ask for proof from the doctors after researching the flu - bird, swine,etc I have found that all flus are the same, and doctors say that it builds up your immune system from year to year (with rest of course) On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:35 AM, gingsong@... wrote: > But was it really Swine Flu, we can't trust the officials. So sorry > about your friend. > Jean > > > In a message dated 1/7/2010 1:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > tina83862@... writes: > > We have one friend who died from Swine flu he picked it up on > vacation with > his family on a crusie ship out of Fla. > > He was early 50's and very healthy man. > > fwiw--- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 From what I know this man went on vacation with his family his daughther and himself got swine flu---she suffered very little compared to her father who went into hospital and died two weeks later. (daughter was teenager) He had no prior health issues that we know of--- no medications as well-- > > > But was it really Swine Flu, we can't trust the officials. So sorry > > about your friend. > > Jean > > > > > > In a message dated 1/7/2010 1:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > tina83862@... writes: > > > > We have one friend who died from Swine flu he picked it up on > > vacation with > > his family on a crusie ship out of Fla. > > > > He was early 50's and very healthy man. > > > > fwiw--- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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