Re: medication and suicide thoughts

[Guest guest]

--- In , " jclutterbuster " <jclutterbuster@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm sure everyone has seen the various ads on tv for different medications and

they give all the warnings and many of them mention 'thoughts of suicide'.

>

> In recent weeks my sister and I were comparing various asthma meds we are on,

I noticed she was not taking singular. I asked and she responded she had

horrible, violent dreams while on singular.

>

> I had a personal trauma a year ago and have been very distraught, but not

depressed nor would the counselor or my primary care physician put me on any

anti-depressants. This past summer I found a new project to put my energies into

and I should have been fine... but instead I calmly think about suicide all the

time. My best friend expresses her concern that I talk about it like I'm going

to exchange a handbag.

>

> She's right, this is not normal and I know this. I am wondering if the problem

my sister had with the singular could be causing this in me. And then a friend

suggested it might be the symbicort. I take Uniphyl, Singular, use Symbicort,

albuterol nebulizer treatments and have been getting Xolair injections for over

two years (and I've been off steroids eleven months).

>

>

> Please don't preach to me, I have made an appointment to see my pulmonologist

and I will tell him about this Tuesday and pose these questions to him. He might

also send me for a cat scan, I had a brain tumor successfully removed in 2003

and there is always the possibility that another small lesion has become a mass.

I just wondered if anyone else has had any of these thoughts or dreams while on

any asthma meds/treatments?

>

No preaching from this minister.

I just want to say that you are doing the right thing by discussing these

concerns with your doctor.

Doug

Group founder

[Guest guest]

Hi J

As the head nurse in a pulmonary office who only cared for the most severe lung

cases, then head nurse for Xolaie at a specialty pharmacy, I have never heard

any of my patients profess suicidal ideation because of their medications.  Even

on meds that possibly could have them.  That does not mean that you couldn't. 

When drug companies do studies with their new medications EVERYTHING the people

say when going in to see the nurses conducting the studies is written down and

reported to the FDA.  As an example a lady driving to the Xolair study before

she got to the study site, had a car accident & broke her leg, so it was reprted

to the FDA and if you read

all the information on Xolair it reports you could have a broken leg from using

Xolair.  I applaud you for heading to the doctor and dicussing this.  It seems

you have a good support system.  Please seek medical attention if your thoughts

become strong before you go to the doctor.  Every area has a suicide hotline

listed in their phone book.  How is your asthma?

[Guest guest]

I have had mild depression from time to time and have wondered about the

singulair...but I have never had thoughts of suicide.  However, depression can

be caused by many things, so I am glad you plan to discuss this with your

doctor.  God bless and we will keep you in our prayers.

From: jclutterbuster <jclutterbuster@...>

Subject: [ ] medication and suicide thoughts

Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 3:42 PM

 

I'm sure everyone has seen the various ads on tv for different medications and

they give all the warnings and many of them mention 'thoughts of suicide'.

In recent weeks my sister and I were comparing various asthma meds we are on, I

noticed she was not taking singular. I asked and she responded she had horrible,

violent dreams while on singular.

I had a personal trauma a year ago and have been very distraught, but not

depressed nor would the counselor or my primary care physician put me on any

anti-depressants. This past summer I found a new project to put my energies into

and I should have been fine... but instead I calmly think about suicide all the

time. My best friend expresses her concern that I talk about it like I'm going

to exchange a handbag.

She's right, this is not normal and I know this. I am wondering if the problem

my sister had with the singular could be causing this in me. And then a friend

suggested it might be the symbicort. I take Uniphyl, Singular, use Symbicort,

albuterol nebulizer treatments and have been getting Xolair injections for over

two years (and I've been off steroids eleven months).

Please don't preach to me, I have made an appointment to see my pulmonologist

and I will tell him about this Tuesday and pose these questions to him. He might

also send me for a cat scan, I had a brain tumor successfully removed in 2003

and there is always the possibility that another small lesion has become a mass.

I just wondered if anyone else has had any of these thoughts or dreams while on

any asthma meds/treatments?

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I am not sure about the suicide, but I do know my 4th child had very

disturbing dreams for over a year. We removed Singulair which he had taken

for several years, and within a week the dreams stopped. He was 6 years old

so was really only able to detail the dreams as he got older. Now, this

child does have anxiety issues, so we are not sure if the anxiety just put

him at greater risk for the dreams.

About 6 months after his stopping the Singulair, the drug company did update

the side effects to include psychological issues with Singulair. This is

from the Merck website -

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/s/singulair/singulair_pi.pdf

-

Neuropsychiatric Events

Neuropsychiatric events have been reported in adult, adolescent, and

pediatric patients taking

SINGULAIR. Post-marketing reports with SINGULAIR use include agitation,

aggressive behavior or

hostility, anxiousness, depression, dream abnormalities, hallucinations,

insomnia, irritability, restlessness,

somnambulism, suicidal thinking and behavior (including suicide), and

tremor. The clinical details of some

post-marketing reports involving SINGULAIR appear consistent with a

drug-induced effect.

Patients and prescribers should be alert for neuropsychiatric events.

Patients should be instructed to

notify their prescriber if these changes occur. Prescribers should carefully

evaluate the risks and benefits

of continuing treatment with SINGULAIR if such events occur (see ADVERSE

REACTIONS, Post-

Marketing Experience).

Myself, my daughter and my 5th child do all take Singulair with good

results.

Please do discuss the benefits and risks with your doctor. I am glad we did.

B.

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of jclutterbuster

Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:43 PM

Subject: [ ] medication and suicide thoughts

I'm sure everyone has seen the various ads on tv for different medications

and they give all the warnings and many of them mention 'thoughts of

suicide'.

In recent weeks my sister and I were comparing various asthma meds we are

on, I noticed she was not taking singular. I asked and she responded she had

horrible, violent dreams while on singular.

I had a personal trauma a year ago and have been very distraught, but not

depressed nor would the counselor or my primary care physician put me on any

anti-depressants. This past summer I found a new project to put my energies

into and I should have been fine... but instead I calmly think about suicide

all the time. My best friend expresses her concern that I talk about it like

I'm going to exchange a handbag.

She's right, this is not normal and I know this. I am wondering if the

problem my sister had with the singular could be causing this in me. And

then a friend suggested it might be the symbicort. I take Uniphyl, Singular,

use Symbicort, albuterol nebulizer treatments and have been getting Xolair

injections for over two years (and I've been off steroids eleven months).

Please don't preach to me, I have made an appointment to see my

pulmonologist and I will tell him about this Tuesday and pose these

questions to him. He might also send me for a cat scan, I had a brain tumor

successfully removed in 2003 and there is always the possibility that

another small lesion has become a mass. I just wondered if anyone else has

had any of these thoughts or dreams while on any asthma meds/treatments?

[Guest guest]

It's a bit troublesome to me that Singular can have this type of side effect. I

wonder if there was a way to make it like an inhaler where it might have less

side effects, like the steroid inhalers for lungs. But for me, Singulair helps

me use less prednisone, etc. But I have always had a problem with anxiety even

before taking Singulair. I think anxiety is a problem with relatives on my

father's side.

(By the way, just wanted to mention my allergist took me off Xolair a couple of

months back. - he didn't like the warning and potential for heart problems, etc.

Since the FDA - or was it them? issued a statement about the possibility of

heart problems with Xolair. My grandparents all had some heart disease and that

killed them in their 70s and 80s, so I have to be careful. Although I am still

open to going back on Xolair if this experiment of being off Xolair doesn't work

for me.)

>

> I am not sure about the suicide, but I do know my 4th child had very

> disturbing dreams for over a year. We removed Singulair which he had taken

> for several years, and within a week the dreams stopped. He was 6 years old

> so was really only able to detail the dreams as he got older. Now, this

> child does have anxiety issues, so we are not sure if the anxiety just put

> him at greater risk for the dreams.

>

>

>

> About 6 months after his stopping the Singulair, the drug company did update

> the side effects to include psychological issues with Singulair. This is

> from the Merck website -

> http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/s/singulair/singulair_pi.pdf

> -

>

>

>

> Neuropsychiatric Events

>

> Neuropsychiatric events have been reported in adult, adolescent, and

> pediatric patients taking

>

> SINGULAIR. Post-marketing reports with SINGULAIR use include agitation,

> aggressive behavior or

>

> hostility, anxiousness, depression, dream abnormalities, hallucinations,

> insomnia, irritability, restlessness,

>

> somnambulism, suicidal thinking and behavior (including suicide), and

> tremor. The clinical details of some

>

> post-marketing reports involving SINGULAIR appear consistent with a

> drug-induced effect.

>

> Patients and prescribers should be alert for neuropsychiatric events.

> Patients should be instructed to

>

> notify their prescriber if these changes occur. Prescribers should carefully

> evaluate the risks and benefits

>

> of continuing treatment with SINGULAIR if such events occur (see ADVERSE

> REACTIONS, Post-

>

> Marketing Experience).

>

>

>

> Myself, my daughter and my 5th child do all take Singulair with good

> results.

>

>

>

> Please do discuss the benefits and risks with your doctor. I am glad we did.

>

>

>

> B.

>

>

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of jclutterbuster

> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:43 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] medication and suicide thoughts

>

>

>

>

>

> I'm sure everyone has seen the various ads on tv for different medications

> and they give all the warnings and many of them mention 'thoughts of

> suicide'.

>

> In recent weeks my sister and I were comparing various asthma meds we are

> on, I noticed she was not taking singular. I asked and she responded she had

> horrible, violent dreams while on singular.

>

> I had a personal trauma a year ago and have been very distraught, but not

> depressed nor would the counselor or my primary care physician put me on any

> anti-depressants. This past summer I found a new project to put my energies

> into and I should have been fine... but instead I calmly think about suicide

> all the time. My best friend expresses her concern that I talk about it like

> I'm going to exchange a handbag.

>

> She's right, this is not normal and I know this. I am wondering if the

> problem my sister had with the singular could be causing this in me. And

> then a friend suggested it might be the symbicort. I take Uniphyl, Singular,

> use Symbicort, albuterol nebulizer treatments and have been getting Xolair

> injections for over two years (and I've been off steroids eleven months).

>

> Please don't preach to me, I have made an appointment to see my

> pulmonologist and I will tell him about this Tuesday and pose these

> questions to him. He might also send me for a cat scan, I had a brain tumor

> successfully removed in 2003 and there is always the possibility that

> another small lesion has become a mass. I just wondered if anyone else has

> had any of these thoughts or dreams while on any asthma meds/treatments?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Presnisone is known for messing with a person's emotions. It made me fat,

grumpy, irritable and yes depressed. I hated that stuff UGH!

VERY SERIOUS side effects from ANY medication should be IMMEDIATELY reported to

your doctor.

If it is a weekend or holiday and he/she is not available, there is always the

good OL ER!

Please everyone, please be safe

Doug

Group founder

[Guest guest]

My lung problems would kill me long before I reached 70 or 80. So even if I

thought I would get heart problems from Xolair, I'd still take it.

>

>

> .....(By the way, just wanted to mention my allergist took me off Xolair a

couple of months back. - he didn't like the warning and potential for heart

problems, etc. Since the FDA - or was it them? issued a statement about the

possibility of heart problems with Xolair. My grandparents all had some heart

disease and that killed them in their 70s and 80s, so I have to be careful.

Although I am still open to going back on Xolair if this experiment of being off

Xolair doesn't work for me.)

>

[Guest guest]

Antihistamines tend to make me depressed depending on the drug. Allegra is less

so. Although Singular helped with asthma I always felt odd while I was on it -

guess it was a sort've low grade panic - but the last straw was the horrible

frequent upper respiratory infections that took me off it. (And, yes, docs

talked me into re-trying it several times) A close friend has a neurological

disease that affects the brain and yes, mood is affected.

When I first started Plaquenil (for arthritis - unfortunately did not help with

allergies) I had TERRIFYING dreams of falling. I had to switch the med to am

and had less trouble although it took several months for it to really let up.

--- In , " jclutterbuster " <jclutterbuster@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm sure everyone has seen the various ads on tv for different medications and

they give all the warnings and many of them mention 'thoughts of suicide'.

>

> In recent weeks my sister and I were comparing various asthma meds we are on,

I noticed she was not taking singular. I asked and she responded she had

horrible, violent dreams while on singular.

>

> I had a personal trauma a year ago and have been very distraught, but not

depressed nor would the counselor or my primary care physician put me on any

anti-depressants. This past summer I found a new project to put my energies into

and I should have been fine... but instead I calmly think about suicide all the

time. My best friend expresses her concern that I talk about it like I'm going

to exchange a handbag.

>

> She's right, this is not normal and I know this. I am wondering if the problem

my sister had with the singular could be causing this in me. And then a friend

suggested it might be the symbicort. I take Uniphyl, Singular, use Symbicort,

albuterol nebulizer treatments and have been getting Xolair injections for over

two years (and I've been off steroids eleven months).

>

>

> Please don't preach to me, I have made an appointment to see my pulmonologist

and I will tell him about this Tuesday and pose these questions to him. He might

also send me for a cat scan, I had a brain tumor successfully removed in 2003

and there is always the possibility that another small lesion has become a mass.

I just wondered if anyone else has had any of these thoughts or dreams while on

any asthma meds/treatments?

>