Re: off - topic holiday scent bombardment

[Guest guest]

I went to Target to day, and the fumes were overwhelming. Seriously, what the

hell are people trying to cover up smell wise?

Do their houses smell like pig farms or a great ape house at the zoo?

The stench greeted me at the door. It was that strong.

I don't mind cooking smells, or even the natural pot pouri, but the artificial

stuff IS VILE!

Nan-->nebbing with Intal as I type..

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

I noticed the last time I was in Target that an odor was eminating from the

Christmas decoration department--apparently the store uses some sort of

Christmasy smell at least in that department.

My husband noticed the smell as well. I did not confirm the use with management

BUT I got the H*** out of there.

Ashleigh

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From: " pteropus.seychellensis@... " <pteropus.seychellensis@...>

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 1:25:45 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] off - topic holiday scent bombardment

I went to Target to day, and the fumes were overwhelming. Seriously, what the

hell are people trying to cover up smell wise?

Do their houses smell like pig farms or a great ape house at the zoo?

The stench greeted me at the door. It was that strong.

I don't mind cooking smells, or even the natural pot pouri, but the artificial

stuff IS VILE!

Nan-->nebbing with Intal as I type..

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

order on line everybody...even then I notice packing odors...Ash

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From: pyle456 <jamcculloch2@...>

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 1:20:28 PM

Subject: [ ] off - topic holiday scent bombardment

Just taking a brief moment to vent about all the crap

I'm forced to smell if I actually take the time to go

anywhere. I try to shop locally, but this time of year

it can be very hard....

Addy

[Guest guest]

Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell, but the

vanilla scent was so intense that I could taste it and after a while, it

actually made me nauseas and wheezy. At one point we left their house to go

visit another relative and unfortunately, the house we went to had plug-in

floral air fresheners in every room. What the HECK people? Since when did

clean, unscented air become something to be ashamed of?

For the love of Pete, your houses smell FINE. Arrgh!

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> I went to Target to day, and the fumes were overwhelming. Seriously, what the

hell are people trying to cover up smell wise?

>

> Do their houses smell like pig farms or a great ape house at the zoo?

>

> The stench greeted me at the door. It was that strong.

>

> I don't mind cooking smells, or even the natural pot pouri, but the artificial

stuff IS VILE!

>

> Nan-->nebbing with Intal as I type..

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

[Guest guest]

I think in general, people watch way too much television and are influenced by

commercials for these scented products. 

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From: bisnono <bisnono@...>

Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:29:06 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: off - topic holiday scent bombardment

 

Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell, but the

vanilla scent was so intense that I could taste it and after a while, it

actually made me nauseas and wheezy. At one point we left their house to go

visit another relative and unfortunately, the house we went to had plug-in

floral air fresheners in every room. What the HECK people? Since when did clean,

unscented air become something to be ashamed of?

For the love of Pete, your houses smell FINE. Arrgh!

>

> I went to Target to day, and the fumes were overwhelming. Seriously, what the

hell are people trying to cover up smell wise?

>

> Do their houses smell like pig farms or a great ape house at the zoo?

>

> The stench greeted me at the door. It was that strong.

>

> I don't mind cooking smells, or even the natural pot pouri, but the artificial

stuff IS VILE!

>

> Nan-->nebbing with Intal as I type..

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

[Guest guest]

this is one reason I stopped going to relatives house around the

holidays..candles, air fresheners, sprays..all to make their house smell

" nice " ..they know my dauhgter and I are sensitive but still use it..and they

wonder why I dont visit anymore..umm. jean

>

> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

[Guest guest]

OK...I've heard a lot of complaining in the short time I've belonged to this

group about scents, sprays,perfumes, etc. We all have to realize that we are in

the minority of those that are either annoyed or affected by all of these. To

me, this complaining adds very little to the purpose of this group and the

reason I joined it. I would rather talk and discuss Xolair and its benefits and

drawbacks rather than the few that obsess on things that bother them. We all

have gone thru the allergy tests and know what triggers our asthma. I would

rather get more on topic than complain about mold, dustmites and ragweed to all

of you. Let's try to talk about Xolair specifics in regard to outcomes, concerns

and successes. While I understand the frustrations we all face, I'm not sure the

whining and complaining is constructive to the group. Sorry...just my opinion.

And if this offends you, I'm sorry. I just don't see any benefit of these posts

to any of us.

On Sun Dec 6th, 2009 2:48 PM EST gigles_1955 wrote:

>this is one reason I stopped going to relatives house around the

holidays..candles, air fresheners, sprays..all to make their house smell

" nice " ..they know my dauhgter and I are sensitive but still use it..and they

wonder why I dont visit anymore..umm. jean

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>> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

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[Guest guest]

Ya'll know those (* & ^%$#W@ wax " tarts " that Yankee candle sells? One of my

friends bought me a " Christmas themed set last year, which included a tart

burner and cedar scented " tarts " . I kept the tart burner, but the bag of tarts

are sitting outside in our garden shed and they STILL stink of cedar. I can't

even get close enough to " re-gift " them.

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From: gigles_1955 <fgigles55@...>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 2:48:16 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: off - topic holiday scent bombardment

this is one reason I stopped going to relatives house around the

holidays..candles, air fresheners, sprays..all to make their house smell

" nice " ..they know my dauhgter and I are sensitive but still use it..and they

wonder why I dont visit anymore..umm. jean

>

> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

[Guest guest]

I've been assaulted by so many evil scents lately, too. The ones you can taste

are the worst! Don't people know this stuff is bad for everyone, not just

asthmatics? Why half of it is legal is beyond me.

My husband is healthy and he's been given coughing fits by some of the scents

we've encountered. He always says afterwards, " I can't believe that didn't kill

you! " Bed Bath & Beyond (I know, wha was I even doing there?) was so stinky that

he sent me out to the car while he got what we needed.

Don't even get me started on those freaking " cinnamon " pine cones every store on

the planet seems to have bags and bags of this time of year! Arrgh indeed!

>

> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell, but the

vanilla scent was so intense that I could taste it and after a while, it

actually made me nauseas and wheezy. At one point we left their house to go

visit another relative and unfortunately, the house we went to had plug-in

floral air fresheners in every room. What the HECK people? Since when did

clean, unscented air become something to be ashamed of?

>

> For the love of Pete, your houses smell FINE. Arrgh!

>

[Guest guest]

A few years ago someone decided to install a night lite in our bathroom. Would

you believe it was scented?

I kept smelling what I thought was sewer gas in that bathroom and finally pulled

the commode and replaced the wax ring. The sewer gas smell didn't go away and

the stench was finally traced to that scented night light.

Generally, that's what those commercial scents smell like to me .... sewer gas.

No need for people to let gas in church if they're wearing perfume to cover up

their body odor. I'll give them plenty of room to wallow in their noxious odor.

When I walk in a store that stinks of scents I turn right around and walk out

before I suffer an asthma attack. Stinking up one's store is what I call

negative advertising.

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> > Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell, but the

vanilla scent was so intense that I could taste it and after a while, it

actually made me nauseas and wheezy. At one point we left their house to go

visit another relative and unfortunately, the house we went to had plug-in

floral air fresheners in every room. What the HECK people? Since when did

clean, unscented air become something to be ashamed of?

> >

> > For the love of Pete, your houses smell FINE. Arrgh!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mark,

The group now allows off-topic posts on weekends. The original post for this

topic was made on a weekend. Perhaps you missed the announcement 2-3 months ago

about off-topic posts.

This group is one of the very few places where our very allergic

members can share their frustrations with living in a world

that is, in some ways, hostile to folks with life-threatening

allergies. Since you've lived with this yourself, I would hope you

would understand that.

Any member can choose NOT to read off-topic posts, which everyone has

been kindly flagging with the words " Off topic " in the subject header.

Thanks for your post,

Addy

Group co-owner

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> >> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

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[Guest guest]

On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:19 PM, mark flash wrote:

> Let's try to talk about Xolair specifics in regard to outcomes,

> concerns and successes. While I understand the frustrations we all

> face, I'm not sure the whining and complaining is constructive to

> the group. Sorry...just my opinion. And if this offends you, I'm

> sorry. I just don't see any benefit of these posts to any of us.

Agreed. Perhaps people telling how their sensitivities have improved

(or not) with Xolair would be more appropriate (I realize that

weekends are OT, but it does seem to continue into the week more than

intended).

I've been getting Xolair for over 4 years now, with no ill effects. I

also get immunotherapy and take a lot of daily meds. My asthma, in

general is extremely well controlled, but the main purpose of putting

me on Xolair was to stop recurring, chronic hives, which were getting

to the point of scary and keeping me on prednisone way more than

ideal. I have not had hives since starting the Xolair, which to me is

a small miracle. It is hard to say whether my asthma has improves

significantly, because it has been pretty well managed for quite

awhile now.

This fall (early October) I got my usual dreaded bronchitis, which

I've actually been able to fight off pretty well since Xolair. This

time, it took hold and I'm just now back to normal more or less. I

haven't been able to determine if there were any odd factors this

year, or just bad luck. My allergist added Qvar and Spiriva to my

normal meds, as well as 2 periods of different antibiotics. He had me

skip my Xolair injections for one period, as he felt that I was too

sick.

Does anyone else skip due to illness or if not, suffer any effects as

a result?

Janet Boss

Best Friends Dog Obedience

Baltimore/Ellicott City/Frederick MD

Trainer/Instructor/Consultant

Member; IACP #2574

Visit our website! www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Contact me: janet@...

[Guest guest]

Allergic Asthma doesn't just mean you are only allergic to molds and dust

mites. Many of us have both " Extrinsic Asthma and Intrinsic Asthma. "

So, the scent bombardment isn't really off topic, because many of us who have

been on Xolair for YEARS will tell you that they aren't as " scent sensitive " now

thanks to being on Xolair. I used to have a very hard time even walking down the

soap/detergent isle at the grocery store.

Doug and I met back in 2007 at a Xolair Patient Conference. The reduction in

the sensitivity to smell/environmental allergies was one of the things that I

heard quite a bit from other Xolair users. Another thing many users said was

that they noticed that their food allergies were non existent/ not as severe as

they used to be. I had always had issues with sulfides. Now I can drink a

glass of wine or eat something and not worry about breaking out in hives and

having to get out the epi pen!!

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From: mark flash <flash_m@...>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:19:06 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: off - topic holiday scent bombardment

OK...I've heard a lot of complaining in the short time I've belonged to this

group about scents, sprays,perfumes, etc. We all have to realize that we are in

the minority of those that are either annoyed or affected by all of these. To

me, this complaining adds very little to the purpose of this group and the

reason I joined it. I would rather talk and discuss Xolair and its benefits and

drawbacks rather than the few that obsess on things that bother them. We all

have gone thru the allergy tests and know what triggers our asthma. I would

rather get more on topic than complain about mold, dustmites and ragweed to all

of you. Let's try to talk about Xolair specifics in regard to outcomes, concerns

and successes. While I understand the frustrations we all face, I'm not sure the

whining and complaining is constructive to the group. Sorry...just my opinion.

And if this offends you, I'm sorry. I just don't see any benefit of these posts

to any of us.

On Sun Dec 6th, 2009 2:48 PM EST gigles_1955 wrote:

>this is one reason I stopped going to relatives house around the

holidays..candles, air fresheners, sprays..all to make their house smell

" nice " ..they know my dauhgter and I are sensitive but still use it..and they

wonder why I dont visit anymore..umm. jean

>

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>> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

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[Guest guest]

FWIW, I almost 2 mins from being put on a vent due to someone having a scented

soy candle burning in an office. I had an anaphylactic reaction. Thanks for

minimizing my problem.

Well, my airborne reactions to irritates and volatile chemicals rival those and

more. Yes, I'm skin tested + majorly for all the about you wrote, but what will

put me in the ER , in respiratory distress is dryer sheets, candles, air borne

burning organic matter etc. THAT is what I was originally put on Xolair for. Not

rag weed, which I could get allergy shots.

Since I was put on Xolair for the above problem, I have just as much right to

vent as you.

Nan

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

My largest trigger of Allergic Asthma is my anaphylactic allergy to eggs. I was

in a building for 5 minutes, walked past the kitchen as they hard-boiled eggs,

and I immediately exited as my lips started to tingle and my lungs seized up.

Someone saw me and brought my emergency kit out. Couple of puffs on my rescue

inhaler, 2 benadryl popped, and my epi-pen in hand and thankfully the fresh air,

I did not go into a full reaction. I also was not in that building for 3 days.

Xolair likely kept me from an epi stick, ambulance ride, ER time, and steroid

burst.

I also no longer taste the latex as balloons and inflated while I am in the same

space (again stores and restaurants are notorious for this) thanks to Xolair.

Also thanks to Xolair I have been able to get to the ‘red vial’ with my

three allergy shots without them triggering asthma. I tried for over 35 years!

My 6 yr old reached the red vial easily without the aid of Xolair.

I wish my allergic asthma was limited to dust mites and molds. Life would be a

whole lot easier. But allergies and asthma don’t stop me. I am too dang

stubborn for that.

B. – 2nd degree Black Belt in Taekwondo, Boy and Girl Scout leader so

outdoors often

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of K K

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:12 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: off - topic holiday scent bombardment

Allergic Asthma doesn't just mean you are only allergic to molds and dust mites.

Many of us have both " Extrinsic Asthma and Intrinsic Asthma. "

So, the scent bombardment isn't really off topic, because many of us who have

been on Xolair for YEARS will tell you that they aren't as " scent sensitive " now

thanks to being on Xolair. I used to have a very hard time even walking down the

soap/detergent isle at the grocery store.

Doug and I met back in 2007 at a Xolair Patient Conference. The reduction in the

sensitivity to smell/environmental allergies was one of the things that I heard

quite a bit from other Xolair users. Another thing many users said was that they

noticed that their food allergies were non existent/ not as severe as they used

to be. I had always had issues with sulfides. Now I can drink a glass of wine or

eat something and not worry about breaking out in hives and having to get out

the epi pen!!

________________________________

From: mark flash <flash_m@... <mailto:flash_m%40sbcglobal.net> >

<mailto: %40>

Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:19:06 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: off - topic holiday scent bombardment

OK...I've heard a lot of complaining in the short time I've belonged to this

group about scents, sprays,perfumes, etc. We all have to realize that we are in

the minority of those that are either annoyed or affected by all of these. To

me, this complaining adds very little to the purpose of this group and the

reason I joined it. I would rather talk and discuss Xolair and its benefits and

drawbacks rather than the few that obsess on things that bother them. We all

have gone thru the allergy tests and know what triggers our asthma. I would

rather get more on topic than complain about mold, dustmites and ragweed to all

of you. Let's try to talk about Xolair specifics in regard to outcomes, concerns

and successes. While I understand the frustrations we all face, I'm not sure the

whining and complaining is constructive to the group. Sorry...just my opinion.

And if this offends you, I'm sorry. I just don't see any benefit of these posts

to any of us.

On Sun Dec 6th, 2009 2:48 PM EST gigles_1955 wrote:

>this is one reason I stopped going to relatives house around the

holidays..candles, air fresheners, sprays..all to make their house smell

" nice " ..they know my dauhgter and I are sensitive but still use it..and they

wonder why I dont visit anymore..umm. jean

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I can also vouch for the reduction in food allergies. I grew up eating peanut

butter and jelly sandwiches. Every day throughout childhood. With no problems.

Then out of the blue I developed a peanut allergy at 19 then allergies to

shellfish, oranges, apples, melons, grapefruit, along with a zillion other

pollens/danders/trees/molds/whatever over the next 10 years.

Then I started Zolair. I still can't have some things without reacting

(shellfish, oranges, and melons), but there's nothing like being able to have a

fresh, crunchy apple after going for over 10 years without. And peanuts? If I

want a peanut butter sandwich or cookie, I can have it without worrying I'll be

reaching for my epi pen.

I'm guessing not everyone will be so lucky, but Zolair has been a lifesaver -

literally.

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> >> Here to commiserate - my inlaws have these weird air fresheners that are

basically plastic sticks in jars. I'm sure they were used to the smell,

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