Re: Stopping

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In a message dated 12/5/99 9:21:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

burrows4@... writes:

<< To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so by

privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness, surely.

Thanks so much!

Yours in Christ,

Joyce : ) >>

I'm asking you to keep it off the list. If you guys want to talk jesus, do it

somewhere else

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To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so by

privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness, surely.

Thanks so much!

Yours in Christ,

Joyce : )

[Guest guest]

Joyce my faith is just as strong as yours and as far as I am concerned if

they don't like it they can delete us. May God bless you. Myra

Re: STOPPING

From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so by

privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness, surely.

Thanks so much!

Yours in Christ,

Joyce : )

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In a message dated Mon, 6 Dec 1999 2:49:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, " Myra

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> From: " Myra " <jdrsr@...>

>

> Joyce my faith is just as strong as yours and as far as I am concerned if

> they don't like it they can delete us. May God bless you. Myra

Then you can simply delete my posts about how jesus freaks are brainwashed

idiots.

>

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> From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

>

> To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

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>

> Yours in Christ,

> Joyce : )

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Thank you Myra...God has blessed me above and beyond what I could ever

imagine(AWESOME) and I agree...May God bless you, also.

Love in Christ,

Joyce : )

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> From: Myra <jdrsr@...>

> candidiasisonelist

> Subject: RE: Re: STOPPING

> Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:44 AM

>

> From: " Myra " <jdrsr@...>

>

> Joyce my faith is just as strong as yours and as far as I am concerned if

> they don't like it they can delete us. May God bless you. Myra

>

> Re: STOPPING

>

>

> From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

>

> To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

> anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so

by

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> Joyce : )

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Thank you , you articulated that quite nicely.

By the way, Olive Leaf extract is excellent...It, along with Artemesia Annua

cured me of babesia without any awful drugs. My blood came back clean as a

whistle. I haven't had a cold in over a year either.

-MicHeLLEIn a message dated Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:28:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

" " <healthynut@...> writes:

> From: " " <healthynut@...>

>

> Joyce,

> I don't think anyone is objecting to your " faith " . The objection seems to be

> using references to it on the list. This is a place for people who have

> HEALTH related issues, particularly Candida, not " FAITH " issues. If you need

> to refrain your faith by shouting it from the roof top, please do so in the

> appropriate place so those who want to listen can gather to hear the sermon.

> How you sing your messages is a personal thing, and if you chose to include

> a reference to your beliefs at that point it should be acceptable. However I

> would question how some of you would react if someone was to sign " Hare

> Krishna " or " Jai Sat-chit-anand " (Truth is the consciousness of bliss)

> instead of some Christian refrence. I prefer to simply sign most of the

> time,

> In Health,

> Sincerely,

>

> Re: STOPPING

>

>

> > From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

> >

> > To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

> > anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so by

> > privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness, surely.

> > Thanks so much!

> >

> > Yours in Christ,

> > Joyce : )

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Joyce,

I don't think anyone is objecting to your " faith " . The objection seems to be

using references to it on the list. This is a place for people who have

HEALTH related issues, particularly Candida, not " FAITH " issues. If you need

to refrain your faith by shouting it from the roof top, please do so in the

appropriate place so those who want to listen can gather to hear the sermon.

How you sing your messages is a personal thing, and if you chose to include

a reference to your beliefs at that point it should be acceptable. However I

would question how some of you would react if someone was to sign " Hare

Krishna " or " Jai Sat-chit-anand " (Truth is the consciousness of bliss)

instead of some Christian refrence. I prefer to simply sign most of the

time,

In Health,

Sincerely,

Re: STOPPING

> From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

>

> To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial to

> anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so by

> privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness, surely.

> Thanks so much!

>

> Yours in Christ,

> Joyce : )

>

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Hi ,

I noticed your salutation previously when you used it and didn't find a

personal need to draw attention to it. Since you have asked me though, my

thinking is use whatever best reveals you to us in closing and signing your

name. My thinking is just say thank you when someone offers something that

is helpful to them in their overall healing(body, soul, spirit)...or say

nothing at all. Drawing attention to it and degrading a person or people

of a certain faith through name calling or telling them to shut up in an

effort to gain self-respect has no place here. If that had been taken as a

choice initially, we wouldn't be having this off topic conversation. Here

is something I read today on truth...

All TRUTH Goes Through Three Stages,

First, it is ridiculed,

Then, it is violently opposed,

Finally, it is accepted as SELF EVIDENT " .

Schopenauer(whoever that is)

Thanks so much for sharing.

Yours in Christ,

JOYce : )

My favorite web URL: http://www.precept.org

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> From: <healthynut@...>

> candidiasisonelist

> Subject: Re: Re: STOPPING

> Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 12:33 PM

>

> From: " " <healthynut@...>

>

> Joyce,

> I don't think anyone is objecting to your " faith " . The objection seems to

be

> using references to it on the list. This is a place for people who have

> HEALTH related issues, particularly Candida, not " FAITH " issues. If you

need

> to refrain your faith by shouting it from the roof top, please do so in

the

> appropriate place so those who want to listen can gather to hear the

sermon.

> How you sing your messages is a personal thing, and if you chose to

include

> a reference to your beliefs at that point it should be acceptable.

However I

> would question how some of you would react if someone was to sign " Hare

> Krishna " or " Jai Sat-chit-anand " (Truth is the consciousness of bliss)

> instead of some Christian refrence. I prefer to simply sign most of the

> time,

> In Health,

> Sincerely,

>

> Re: STOPPING

>

>

> > From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

> >

> > To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial

to

> > anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so

by

> > privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness,

surely.

> > Thanks so much!

> >

> > Yours in Christ,

> > Joyce : )

> >

> > > _

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Joyce,

I love this quotation! I have it on my webpage...

Ali

foleyag@...

>All TRUTH Goes Through Three Stages,

>First, it is ridiculed,

>Then, it is violently opposed,

>Finally, it is accepted as SELF EVIDENT " .

>Schopenauer(whoever that is)

>Thanks so much for sharing.

>Yours in Christ,

>JOYce : )

>My favorite web URL: http://www.precept.org

>

>

>

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>> From: <healthynut@...>

>> candidiasisonelist

>> Subject: Re: Re: STOPPING

>> Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 12:33 PM

>>

>> From: " " <healthynut@...>

>>

>> Joyce,

>> I don't think anyone is objecting to your " faith " . The objection seems to

>be

>> using references to it on the list. This is a place for people who have

>> HEALTH related issues, particularly Candida, not " FAITH " issues. If you

>need

>> to refrain your faith by shouting it from the roof top, please do so in

>the

>> appropriate place so those who want to listen can gather to hear the

>sermon.

>> How you sing your messages is a personal thing, and if you chose to

>include

>> a reference to your beliefs at that point it should be acceptable.

>However I

>> would question how some of you would react if someone was to sign " Hare

>> Krishna " or " Jai Sat-chit-anand " (Truth is the consciousness of bliss)

>> instead of some Christian refrence. I prefer to simply sign most of the

>> time,

>> In Health,

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Re: STOPPING

>>

>>

>> > From: " burrows4 " <burrows4@...>

>> >

>> > To the benefit of all here, though not wanting to be less than cordial

>to

>> > anyone, if there is a need to object to my faith, feel free to voice so

>by

>> > privately emailing me. Everyone would appreciate that kindness,

>surely.

>> > Thanks so much!

>> >

>> > Yours in Christ,

>> > Joyce : )

>> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alison,

I'm sitting here now trying to figure out where I copied it from. Could I

have seen your page somehow for that to have been the source? Could you

share it with me in private? Thanks so much!

Yours in Christ,

JOYce : )

http://www.precept.org

(My favorite URL)

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> From: Foley <foleyag@...>

> candidiasisonelist

> Subject: RE: Re: STOPPING

> Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 4:21 PM

>

> From: Foley <foleyag@...>

>

> Joyce,

> I love this quotation! I have it on my webpage...

> Ali

> foleyag@...

>

> >All TRUTH Goes Through Three Stages,

> >First, it is ridiculed,

> >Then, it is violently opposed,

> >Finally, it is accepted as SELF EVIDENT " .

> >Schopenauer(whoever that is)

> >Thanks so much for sharing.

> >Yours in Christ,

> >JOYce : )

> >My favorite web URL: http://www.precept.org

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/6/99 11:24:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

burrows4@... writes:

<< Then, it is violently opposed,

Finally, it is accepted as SELF EVIDENT " .

Schopenauer(whoever that is)

Thanks so much for sharing.

Yours in Christ,

JOYce : ) >>

Blah blah blah the point is, this is not the place. Your harassment goes way

beyond just signing your name, but you are only making yourself look stupid.

Every religion in the world claims they are the one true religion. It gets

tiresome.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/6/99 12:25:33 PM Central Standard Time,

FemDomSoc@... writes:

<< Thank you , you articulated that quite nicely.

By the way, Olive Leaf extract is excellent...It, along with Artemesia Annua

cured me of babesia without any awful drugs. My blood came back clean as a

whistle. I haven't had a cold in over a year either.

-MicHeLLEIn a message dated Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:28:29 PM Eastern >>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi ,

I am using East Park olive leaf extract, but could you enlighten me a little

on

artemesia annua and babesia.

Thanks,

Edith

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In a message dated 12/8/99 6:11:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Es9525@... writes:

<<

I am using East Park olive leaf extract, but could you enlighten me a little

on

artemesia annua and babesia >>

Babesia is a tick transmitted co-infection. It is a blood parasite, related

to Malaria. I live in a highly Lyme disease endemic area and now the ticks

are carrying babesia also. The standard treatment is Larium which is an

anti-malarial with horrible side effects. I declined to put those kind of

chemicals in my body and was given an alternative treatment, which worked

beautifully with minimal side effects.

Anything else you'd like to know?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/8/99 9:52:58 AM Central Standard Time,

FemDomSoc@... writes:

<< Babesia is a tick transmitted co-infection. It is a blood parasite,

related

to Malaria. I live in a highly Lyme disease endemic area and now the ticks

are carrying babesia also. The standard treatment is Larium which is an

anti-malarial with horrible side effects. I declined to put those kind of

chemicals in my body and was given an alternative treatment, which worked

beautifully with minimal side effects.

Anything else you'd like to know? >>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes, would you tell me alittle about artemesia annua . I've never heard of

this. Thanks for the above information. I am on another list where many of

the

people suffer with lyme disease and are trying to overcome with natural

rememdies.

Did the MD readily diagnos the lyme like disease? The others indicated

the medical community did not find it very easy to do.

Thanks again,

Edith

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/8/99 12:53:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Es9525@... writes:

<<

Yes, would you tell me alittle about artemesia annua . I've never heard of

this. Thanks for the above information. I am on another list where many of

the

people suffer with lyme disease and are trying to overcome with natural

rememdies.

Did the MD readily diagnos the lyme like disease? The others indicated

the medical community did not find it very easy to do.

Thanks again,

Edith >>

Hi, artemesia is a chinese herb traditionally used as an anti-malarial..and

it really does work, I am living proof. I had a blood test and they found the

babesia...not much is known about it yet, really. There is a test that Igenix

(I think i spelled the name of the lab wrong but you know who I mean) does

for babesia that they describe on their website. Artemesia is also called

''sweet annie'...I had a hard time finding info on it online, I don't

remember where I finally found it. Try doing a search maybe...if you have no

luck let me know and I'll try to find something for you.

-MicHeLLe

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark-

I've been on Xolair since Aprl, so not very log. I skipped two doses in summer

because of vacation schedules and I've skipped a dose this month because of

insurance stubbornness.

I find that clarity comes back a little and I also need my rescue inhaler. In

summer I needed prednisone. I had stopped Qvar80 because the Xolair made it so

I didn't need both. I have started Qvar again just in the last few days because

I have shortness of breath.

Maybe Xolair was doing more than you'd like to admit.

-----Original Message-----

From: tinman4jesus <mark@...>

Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 12:45 pm

Subject: [ ] Stopping

Anyone have any experience or info on stopping Xolair? Here's a quick overview

of my story. I tried it for 2 years without noticable improvement in my asthma.

I only noticed popping ears and occassional back pain after each shot. After 2

years (July 09) I decided to stop. Well, bad news and discouragement so far.

Since July I have been on and off prednisone for increased shortness of breath

and using my " rescue inhaler " frequently. It seems that this correlates

directly with stopping Xolair.

Hmmmm. Any ideas how long this will take to " settle down " ? Should I consider

re-starting and gradually stopping? Anyone have anything on this?

Thanks,

Mark

[Guest guest]

I have been off of Xolair since July 2009 as well. I am still on allergy shots.

It is a bit miraculous that I made it to " maintenance dose " and now I am taking

the (desensitizing )allergy shots once a month. It's a miracle because I have

never in my life been able to make it even half way to a maintenance dose. I

wonder if Xolair helped me get to this point of being able to get allergy shots

on a monthly basis because I was on Xolair monthly since 2004 or so. The

allergist took me off Xolair as sort of an experiment and because of my family

history of heart disease, etc.

Since stopping Xolair, I feel only slightly " off " - like just having a tiny bit

less stamina to do physical activities . (Then again, I don't know if that is

due to age or my diabetes??) In our household, there were a couple of rounds

of coughs and colds where I had to slightly increase my oral steroids and taper

off after a few days. I fought off both infections with no antibiotics which

wouldn't have been possible even 2 years back.

This is just my experience so far.

btw, has anyone been able to get the Swine Flu vaccine? I realize that is off

topic, but I am just wondering how to get it since none of the doctors' offices

have it yet.

Good luck to all

>

> Anyone have any experience or info on stopping Xolair? Here's a quick

overview of my story. I tried it for 2 years without noticable improvement in

my asthma. I only noticed popping ears and occassional back pain after each

shot. After 2 years (July 09) I decided to stop. Well, bad news and

discouragement so far. Since July I have been on and off prednisone for

increased shortness of breath and using my " rescue inhaler " frequently. It

seems that this correlates directly with stopping Xolair.

>

> Hmmmm. Any ideas how long this will take to " settle down " ? Should I consider

re-starting and gradually stopping? Anyone have anything on this?

>

> Thanks,

> Mark

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Mac! I'm doing the allergy shots also, but have gotten way off track

because of being sick the last couple of months off and on. Will continue to

persue those though, especially hearing so many positive stories about allergy

injections.

Mark M

> >

> > Anyone have any experience or info on stopping Xolair? Here's a quick

overview of my story. I tried it for 2 years without noticable improvement in

my asthma. I only noticed popping ears and occassional back pain after each

shot. After 2 years (July 09) I decided to stop. Well, bad news and

discouragement so far. Since July I have been on and off prednisone for

increased shortness of breath and using my " rescue inhaler " frequently. It

seems that this correlates directly with stopping Xolair.

> >

> > Hmmmm. Any ideas how long this will take to " settle down " ? Should I

consider re-starting and gradually stopping? Anyone have anything on this?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Mark

> >

>