Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 FYI...excess cortisol causes the retention of sodium, potassium loss and is associated with deficits in learning, speech and attention in children of offspring who are taking it during pregnancy. C ________________________________ From: <carrie72583@...> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:28:53 PM Subject: Re: [ ] curshings Lol. I mean Cushings! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: <carrie72583@ .ca> Xolair < > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:28:02 PM Subject: [ ] curshings Ron et al., it is called iatrogenic or secondary Cushings. Primary cushings is when your body produces too much cortisol via the adrenals. We take extra cortisol in the form of pred (aka evil candy) and hence develop secondary or treatment-induced cushings. Cushings is bad. Hypertension, osteoporosis, skin breakdown, muscle wasting, various immune deficiencies, diabetes, glaucoma, cataracts, central obesity leading to cardiac disease, depression, memory loss d/t hippocampal cell death to name a few are the effects of Cushings on the body. Should you be concerned? Absolutely. Your physician and you need to work to find the lowest possible dose of pred for you to function on. As my MD said, " Pred is eating you from the inside and taking years off your life " . MDs can spot us a mile away from the unique form the body takes on (big belly, skinny arms and legs and horrific stretch marks EVERYWHERE). It requires you to have special monitoring (bone density tests for osteoporosis even if you are male and have no risk factors) and you need to take a calcium and vit D supplement every day etc.....your eyes absolutely need to be checked annually and your bloods for elevated lipids, liver function, glucose etc....done regularly. But, can you function without pred? Maybe, maybe not. But it does have a huge cost. still fighting to get off (6 years and counting.... ) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new . Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail. .ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Wow! No wonder my allergist was so concerned during the years i was on prednisone. After being on and off and on and off of pred for five years, the doctor finally took me completely off when he gave me a steroid inhaler. Since that time I took prednisone about three or four times a year until I started xolair. I have not had prednisone for three and a half years! My heart goes out to those of you who still have to take prednisone. Adah From: <carrie72583@...> Subject: [ ] Furthermore, Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 3:31 PM FYI...excess cortisol causes the retention of sodium, potassium loss and is associated with deficits in learning, speech and attention in children of offspring who are taking it during pregnancy. C ____________ _________ _________ __ From: <carrie72583@ .ca> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:28:53 PM Subject: Re: [ ] curshings Lol. I mean Cushings! ____________ _________ _________ __ From: <carrie72583@ .ca> Xolair < > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:28:02 PM Subject: [ ] curshings Ron et al., it is called iatrogenic or secondary Cushings. Primary cushings is when your body produces too much cortisol via the adrenals. We take extra cortisol in the form of pred (aka evil candy) and hence develop secondary or treatment-induced cushings. Cushings is bad. Hypertension, osteoporosis, skin breakdown, muscle wasting, various immune deficiencies, diabetes, glaucoma, cataracts, central obesity leading to cardiac disease, depression, memory loss d/t hippocampal cell death to name a few are the effects of Cushings on the body. Should you be concerned? Absolutely. Your physician and you need to work to find the lowest possible dose of pred for you to function on. As my MD said, " Pred is eating you from the inside and taking years off your life " . MDs can spot us a mile away from the unique form the body takes on (big belly, skinny arms and legs and horrific stretch marks EVERYWHERE). It requires you to have special monitoring (bone density tests for osteoporosis even if you are male and have no risk factors) and you need to take a calcium and vit D supplement every day etc.....your eyes absolutely need to be checked annually and your bloods for elevated lipids, liver function, glucose etc....done regularly. But, can you function without pred? Maybe, maybe not. But it does have a huge cost. still fighting to get off (6 years and counting.... ) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new . Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail. .ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Isn't the problem with prednisone, that it's a steroid? Is it worse than the others, a matter of dosage, or what? Don't all the steroids cause the same problems eventually? Sorry if I'm just being dumb. > > Wow! No wonder my allergist was so concerned during the years i was on prednisone. > > After being on and off and on and off of pred for five years, the doctor finally took me completely off when he gave me a steroid inhaler. Since that time I took prednisone about three or four times a year until I started xolair. I have not had prednisone for three and a half years! > > My heart goes out to those of you who still have to take prednisone. > > Adah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 It was my understanding at the time that a steroid inhaler was not quite as bad as oral steroids because the steroid went right to the lungs instead of in the blood stream, although I also understand that some of the inhaled can also get into the bloodstream....Not exactly sure about how all of that works. But I have not had the same side effects with the inhaled as I did with the oral, like the puffy face, huge appetite, water gain, etc. I am sure others in the group can speak to this more intelligently than I. From: cleptisvirgo <cleptisvirgo@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Furthermore, Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 1:13 PM Isn't the problem with prednisone, that it's a steroid? Is it worse than the others, a matter of dosage, or what? Don't all the steroids cause the same problems eventually? Sorry if I'm just being dumb. > > Wow! No wonder my allergist was so concerned during the years i was on prednisone. > > After being on and off and on and off of pred for five years, the doctor finally took me completely off when he gave me a steroid inhaler. Since that time I took prednisone about three or four times a year until I started xolair. I have not had prednisone for three and a half years! > > My heart goes out to those of you who still have to take prednisone. > > Adah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 A good analogy for inhaled vs. oral steroids is this: it's like the difference between topical neosporin and a low dose oral antibiotic. There are a few folks who are VERY sensitive to steroids and have significant response to inhaled steroids but for most people they are much safer and much more well tolerated than oral steroids. Addy Group co-owner > > > > Wow! No wonder my allergist was so concerned during the years i was on prednisone. > > > > After being on and off and on and off of pred for five years, the doctor finally took me completely off when he gave me a steroid inhaler. Since that time I took prednisone about three or four times a year until I started xolair. I have not had prednisone for three and a half years! > > > > My heart goes out to those of you who still have to take prednisone. > > > > Adah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Thanks, Addy. You explained it very well..... From: pyle456 <jamcculloch2@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Furthermore, Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 7:37 PM A good analogy for inhaled vs. oral steroids is this: it's like the difference between topical neosporin and a low dose oral antibiotic. There are a few folks who are VERY sensitive to steroids and have significant response to inhaled steroids but for most people they are much safer and much more well tolerated than oral steroids. Addy Group co-owner > > > > Wow! No wonder my allergist was so concerned during the years i was on prednisone. > > > > After being on and off and on and off of pred for five years, the doctor finally took me completely off when he gave me a steroid inhaler. Since that time I took prednisone about three or four times a year until I started xolair. I have not had prednisone for three and a half years! > > > > My heart goes out to those of you who still have to take prednisone. > > > > Adah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 > > Thanks, Addy. You explained it very well..... > She always does : I believe this group has the BEST co owner ever )) Doug Group founder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Heartily agree! From: uca79iii <uca79iii@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Furthermore, Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 7:21 AM > > Thanks, Addy. You explained it very well..... > She always does : I believe this group has the BEST co owner ever )) Doug Group founder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Addy and Adah, You both explained it very well. As one of the hyper-sensitive few, I get tense at the mere mention of ANY kind of steroid. I worry about those of you who still take them, whatever the form. Mostly lurking group member -- In , " pyle456 " <jamcculloch2@...> wrote: > > A good analogy for inhaled vs. oral steroids is this: it's like the difference between topical neosporin and a low dose oral antibiotic. > > There are a few folks who are VERY sensitive to steroids and have significant response to inhaled steroids but for most people they are much safer and much more well tolerated than oral steroids. > > Addy > Group co-owner > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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