Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Dear Group, I have seen many references lately regarding the onset of diabetes in this group. This worried me. I work at a top ranked hospital in the US and have had the opportunity to discuss this with several pulmonary and adrenal docs. Time and again I have been told that, yes, prednisone can create the onset of diabetes. However, they all said that the diabetes is a temporary manifistation that will disappear once the patient is off the steroids. I have also looked online to see what is written by other sources and they are all consistent. Hopefully this gives some education that you can discuss with your pulomary specialists. Now, if you are somewhat inactive and have weight issues, the type 2 diabetes cannot be blamed on the prednisone. I know steroids can cause excessive weight and it may be a vicious circle for some. Hopefully, though, there is an end to the prednisone with the success of our Xolair injections. The brutal fact is that weight issues are the cause of type 2 diabetes and not the prednisone. Sorry for the blunt comment. I have been on Xolair for about 6 months now and my improved breathing and health have enabled me to exercise and become more active. Im 54 and can play tennis, golf and get on the treadmill several times a week. I feel so much better with the increased activity, greater stamina and resulting weight loss. Isnt this what we are trying to accomplish...better health and better life? Take advantage of the newfound breathing improvements and get moving!! It will make you feel so much better. Mark From: Ol Wheezy <uca79iii@...> Subject: [ ] Re: What a week Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 5:24 PM > > Thanks Ashleigh, > > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. > > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! > Mike McBride > Mike, Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. Thanks for letting me vent Doug Group founder ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Hi Mark. Several things can cause diabetes...hereditary, poor eating haibts, weight esp. around the middle and Im sure there are more. Prednisone can spike your blood sugar levels and if you dont have diabetes after you go off your level returns to normal..and yes I have heard that being over weigh can cause type two diabetes but it is not always the cause....I was diag. in Oct with type 2 and I am not over weight....it does run in my family and my poor eating habits prob. rushed it along but it was not becasue of my weight. I am on xolair also but do not blame this or prednisone for the cause but you cant blame being overweight for the reason either..not in all cases. I have been xolair has helped my asthma also and I am very grateful for this. jean On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:40 PM, mark flash <flash_m@...> wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > I have seen many references lately regarding the onset of diabetes in this > group. This worried me. I work at a top ranked hospital in the US and have > had the opportunity to discuss this with several pulmonary and adrenal docs. > Time and again I have been told that, yes, prednisone can create the onset > of diabetes. However, they all said that the diabetes is a temporary > manifistation that will disappear once the patient is off the steroids. I > have also looked online to see what is written by other sources and they are > all consistent. Hopefully this gives some education that you can discuss > with your pulomary specialists. Now, if you are somewhat inactive and have > weight issues, the type 2 diabetes cannot be blamed on the prednisone. I > know steroids can cause excessive weight and it may be a vicious circle for > some. Hopefully, though, there is an end to the prednisone with the success > of our Xolair injections. The brutal fact is > that weight issues are the cause of type 2 diabetes and not the > prednisone. Sorry for the blunt comment. I have been on Xolair for about 6 > months now and my improved breathing and health have enabled me to exercise > and become more active. Im 54 and can play tennis, golf and get on the > treadmill several times a week. I feel so much better with the increased > activity, greater stamina and resulting weight loss. Isnt this what we are > trying to accomplish...better health and better life? Take advantage of the > newfound breathing improvements and get moving!! It will make you feel so > much better. > > Mark > > > > From: Ol Wheezy <uca79iii@... <uca79iii%40>> > Subject: [ ] Re: What a week > < %40> > Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 5:24 PM > > > > > > Thanks Ashleigh, > > > > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed > with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg > Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go > without it. Usually about 6weeks. > > > > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding > scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually > feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist > have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this > time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I > will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! > > Mike McBride > > > > Mike, > > Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my > family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast > iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and > he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids > as I have. > > Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL > diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 > minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with > a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! > > I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under > control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a > diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, > but not as good as I would like. > > Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre > mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye > support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 > fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. > > Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been > done. > > Thanks for letting me vent > > Doug > Group founder > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I have read in several sources that steroid induced diabetes will USUALLY resolve when the patient stops taking steroids, but NOT ALWAYS, particularly if the patient has been on steroids for a long time. Unfortunately there are a number of us in this group who've required steroids for many years. I wonder if there is sufficient research on the subject as relates to asthmatics in particular, and not, for instance, patients with cancer who require steroids. Fortunately I have not had any diabetic symptoms, but I was diagnosed with osteoporosis and hypertension before my 40th birthday. I have one doctor who says that my hypertension is not a result of years of steroid use and another doctor who says that it is. Go figure. But that does make me wonder if doctors in general know enough about this very helpful, sometimes life-saving, high-side-effect-profile medication. Between my doctors and Dr. Ingelfinger, who admits in the book " Coping with Prednisone " that she prescribed it for years without really understanding the side effects until her sister was forced to take pred at very high doses for a long period of time, I suspect there is a lot we- and our doctors- still don't know about prednisone. I also hope that Xolair will greatly lower all of our dependencies on prednisone and enable us all to get more exercise. But I know there are many of us in this group who still need prednisone during bad flares, and a few members who are still steroid dependent, despite taking Xolair. Addy Group co-owner > > > > Thanks Ashleigh, > > > > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. > > > > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! > > Mike McBride > > > > > Mike, > > Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. > > Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL > diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! > > I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. > > Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. > > Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. > > Thanks for letting me vent > > Doug > Group founder > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 This is the sort of thing that worries ME! You may have spoken to doctors, but you haven't seen every case that comes by. My doctors have told directly that without the prednisone, I would not be in the shape I am today and I would not have diabetes. It's darned insulting for you to come in and essentially call me uneducated because I gained weight on a medication that CAUSES weight gain! There are many of us here that have far more severe asthma than yours. We have been on Prednisone for YEARS, not weeks or months. Long-term use of glucocorticoids changes your fat and cholesterol metabolism. It changes your sugar metabolism. Gone untreated, as it was in my case, type II diabetes can become permanent. It's very nice that you can play tennis now. Let me tell you what my life is like. I am in constant pain from severe osteoarthritis in my right knee caused in part by prednisone. I used to be a dancer, but I can't do that anymore. I walk with a cane, and will do until I can get a knee replacement. As I mentioned before, I have dynamic airway collapse, which means that the prednisone has softened my cartilage in my esophagus. If I have an asthma attack, it can close. If I cough, it can collapse. I have exertion asthma, so I have to be very careful. Oh, yes, I'd love to lose weight, and I am, but not being able to exercise as you would makes it very difficult. So it's not just a matter of getting off my duff and playing tennis! I hope you go out and enjoy your games and think about the fact that we're not all as privileged as you are. Try not to be as judgmental about other people. --Kitty > > > > Thanks Ashleigh, > > > > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. > > > > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! > > Mike McBride > > > > > Mike, > > Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. > > Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL > diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! > > I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. > > Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. > > Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. > > Thanks for letting me vent > > Doug > Group founder > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Kitty, So sorry you reacted that way. Iw as just trying to be informative. I was just relaying some medical connections between the use of prednisone and the resultant onset of diabetes...nothing more. This is an informative group and I was just offering somwe info I received. As to my own asthma, you seemed to jump to some incredible conclusions based on my " current " level of activity. I have had asthma most of my life. Both my mother and brother died from asthma. I have been hospitalized " before " Xolair twice a year. I have had two hip replacemnts from the affects of steroids. I can relate to a lot of what we all go thru. I've been blessed with having a good reaction top the 6 months of Xolaire shots...every 2 weeks of 300mg. Sorry I hit a nerve...just noticed a lot of comments about theonset of diabetes and researched a bit. I'll try to be a little more sensitive in the future. Mark On Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 11:27 AM EDT Kitty wrote: >This is the sort of thing that worries ME! You may have spoken to doctors, but you haven't seen every case that comes by. My doctors have told directly that without the prednisone, I would not be in the shape I am today and I would not have diabetes. It's darned insulting for you to come in and essentially call me uneducated because I gained weight on a medication that CAUSES weight gain! > >There are many of us here that have far more severe asthma than yours. We have been on Prednisone for YEARS, not weeks or months. Long-term use of glucocorticoids changes your fat and cholesterol metabolism. It changes your sugar metabolism. Gone untreated, as it was in my case, type II diabetes can become permanent. > >It's very nice that you can play tennis now. Let me tell you what my life is like. I am in constant pain from severe osteoarthritis in my right knee caused in part by prednisone. I used to be a dancer, but I can't do that anymore. I walk with a cane, and will do until I can get a knee replacement. As I mentioned before, I have dynamic airway collapse, which means that the prednisone has softened my cartilage in my esophagus. If I have an asthma attack, it can close. If I cough, it can collapse. I have exertion asthma, so I have to be very careful. > >Oh, yes, I'd love to lose weight, and I am, but not being able to exercise as you would makes it very difficult. So it's not just a matter of getting off my duff and playing tennis! I hope you go out and enjoy your games and think about the fact that we're not all as privileged as you are. > >Try not to be as judgmental about other people. > >--Kitty > > >> > >> > Thanks Ashleigh, >> > >> > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. >> > >> > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! >> > Mike McBride >> > >> >> >> Mike, >> >> Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. >> >> Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL >> diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! >> >> I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. >> >> Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. >> >> Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. >> >> Thanks for letting me vent >> >> Doug >> Group founder >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Kitty, You obviously did not read my entire comments. I did recognize that steroids can cause weight gain and can be a vicious circle for some. And, I did not call anyone uneducated...I was just offering some feedback from the doctors that treat us. Lastly, I would not be alive if not for the steroids....that's why I refuse to call it evil candy. On Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 11:27 AM EDT Kitty wrote: >This is the sort of thing that worries ME! You may have spoken to doctors, but you haven't seen every case that comes by. My doctors have told directly that without the prednisone, I would not be in the shape I am today and I would not have diabetes. It's darned insulting for you to come in and essentially call me uneducated because I gained weight on a medication that CAUSES weight gain! > >There are many of us here that have far more severe asthma than yours. We have been on Prednisone for YEARS, not weeks or months. Long-term use of glucocorticoids changes your fat and cholesterol metabolism. It changes your sugar metabolism. Gone untreated, as it was in my case, type II diabetes can become permanent. > >It's very nice that you can play tennis now. Let me tell you what my life is like. I am in constant pain from severe osteoarthritis in my right knee caused in part by prednisone. I used to be a dancer, but I can't do that anymore. I walk with a cane, and will do until I can get a knee replacement. As I mentioned before, I have dynamic airway collapse, which means that the prednisone has softened my cartilage in my esophagus. If I have an asthma attack, it can close. If I cough, it can collapse. I have exertion asthma, so I have to be very careful. > >Oh, yes, I'd love to lose weight, and I am, but not being able to exercise as you would makes it very difficult. So it's not just a matter of getting off my duff and playing tennis! I hope you go out and enjoy your games and think about the fact that we're not all as privileged as you are. > >Try not to be as judgmental about other people. > >--Kitty > > >> > >> > Thanks Ashleigh, >> > >> > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. >> > >> > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! >> > Mike McBride >> > >> >> >> Mike, >> >> Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. >> >> Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL >> diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! >> >> I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. >> >> Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. >> >> Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. >> >> Thanks for letting me vent >> >> Doug >> Group founder >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Mark, The moderators let your original post through because we recognized your attempt to share information you'd gotten from doctors with whom you've spoken. That said, a couple of us were very frustrated by a couple of things that you said or implied in your post, perhaps inadvertently. I appreciate it greatly that you've recognized a need to be more sensitive in the future. I think this situation is a good reminder to all of us that it is all too easy to misinterpret intent in this particular medium. It is also all too easy to write a message that one assumes will only be taken one way, but which might easily be taken in a different way. Addy Group Co-owner > >> > > >> > Saturday night one week ago I went to the ER as my nebs were not cutting into an attack. Early Sunday the doc told me he recommended inpatient...my first admit for asthma. As they were doing some blood work the doc came in and asked how long I'd been diabetic. SURPRISE! Between the untreatted disease and the steroids my sugars peaked at 550. Now down to the mid/upper 100's. At a follow up with my doc on Friday he asked if the pulmo who gives me the Xolair has any other tricks up his sleeve. He questions the efficacy of the Xolair at this point. I went more than 6 months almost symptom free. Now i am back in the ER about every 3 months or so with symptoms increasing. > >> > > >> > 2 questions: > >> > > >> > 1. Can/Does Xolair stop being as effective and need an increase in the amount needed? I am wondering if I can develop a tolerance to the med. > >> > > >> > 2. OT: Any other diabetics here? How do you balance Prednisone and what it does to blood sugars? > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance. > >> > > >> > Mike > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In , McBride <mike.dmcbride@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Thanks Ashleigh, > >> > > >> > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. > >> > > >> > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! > >> > Mike McBride > >> > > >> > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. > >> > >> Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL > >> diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! > >> > >> I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. " I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. > >> > >> Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. > >> > >> Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. > >> > >> Thanks for letting me vent > >> > >> Doug > >> Group founder > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I re- read Marks comments and saw it as an inspiration - we all know what prednisone can do to our bodies and we all know it is a necessary evil - but to hear that someone has success with Xolair and has gotten off of prednisone and can play tennis and run on a treadmill is inspirational to me - I don't think his intent was to infer that anyone was lazy - he was just saying that he has been through the hell of steroids and he's back to tell a great story - being that I am new and won't have my first shot until June 17th  his post was exactly what I needed - I don't now enough about prednisone and diabetes - all I know is when I was on the evil candy I never had sugar or salt and drank my weight in ounces lemon water everyday - this stopped the weight gain and kept my sugar levels under control - and trust me I have been on doses of  240 mg - it took me 8 months to taper down from that.   ________________________________ From: pyle456 <jamcculloch2@...> Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 3:13:19 PM Subject: [ ] Re:Increased Diabetes references by group.  Mark, The moderators let your original post through because we recognized your attempt to share information you'd gotten from doctors with whom you've spoken. That said, a couple of us were very frustrated by a couple of things that you said or implied in your post, perhaps inadvertently. I appreciate it greatly that you've recognized a need to be more sensitive in the future. I think this situation is a good reminder to all of us that it is all too easy to misinterpret intent in this particular medium. It is also all too easy to write a message that one assumes will only be taken one way, but which might easily be taken in a different way. Addy Group Co-owner > >> > > >> > Saturday night one week ago I went to the ER as my nebs were not cutting into an attack. Early Sunday the doc told me he recommended inpatient...my first admit for asthma. As they were doing some blood work the doc came in and asked how long I'd been diabetic. SURPRISE! Between the untreatted disease and the steroids my sugars peaked at 550. Now down to the mid/upper 100's. At a follow up with my doc on Friday he asked if the pulmo who gives me the Xolair has any other tricks up his sleeve. He questions the efficacy of the Xolair at this point. I went more than 6 months almost symptom free. Now i am back in the ER about every 3 months or so with symptoms increasing. > >> > > >> > 2 questions: > >> > > >> > 1. Can/Does Xolair stop being as effective and need an increase in the amount needed? I am wondering if I can develop a tolerance to the med. > >> > > >> > 2. OT: Any other diabetics here? How do you balance Prednisone and what it does to blood sugars? > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance. > >> > > >> > Mike > >> > > >> > >> > >>    > >> > >> --- In , McBride <mike.dmcbride@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Thanks Ashleigh, > >> > > >> > I have a long family history of diabetes but i had nver been diagnosed with it. It was expected but I did not know it had arrived. I am on 20mg Pred for 2 more days and then 10 mg for 4 days. We'll see how long I can go without it. Usually about 6weeks. > >> > > >> > I measure my sugar no less than 5x per day. i am currently on a sliding scale dose of short acting insulin and 30u of a long lasting. I actually feel better than I have in a very long time. My pulmonologist and internist have worked togther in the past and should play nice with each other this time as well. There is not an endrocrinologist in the area where I live. I will need to look in Anchorage. Thanks! > >> > Mike McBride > >> > > >> > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> Many years on evil candy were responsible for my diabetes. No one in my family has ever been diabetic that I know of. My dad must have had a cast iron pancreas because he was addicted to sugar. It was his staple food and he never was diabetic. No one in my family ever had to take as much steroids as I have. > >> > >> Now, 5 years since Xolair took away my need for evil candy, I am STILL > >> diabetic. I have it under control with diet and pill. I WAS walking 30 minutes every day till I developed Diabetic Neuropathy in my feet EVEN with a 6.4 A1C. grrrrr! > >> > >> I asked my doctor why I had foot pain even though my Diabetes was under control. She said: " Yes your sugars are good however, you are STILL a diabetic. "    I am taking 150 mg of Lyrica and Metanx twice daily. It helps, but not as good as I would like. > >> > >> Not only was evil candy responsible for giving me diabetes, I had pre mature cataracts, (My eye adventure stories are long and this is not an eye support group) and spinal stenosis in my neck so bad that I have had 2 fusion surgeries, one with a metal plate. > >> > >> Yes, I am off steroids thanks to Xolair but irreversible damage has been done. > >> > >> Thanks for letting me vent > >> > >> Doug > >> Group founder > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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