Dry mouth

[Guest guest]

How much water a day are you drinking? To stay generally healthy, people

need around eight glasses every day.

Chris.

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Subject: rheumatic Dry Mouth

From: dav0920@...

Dry Mouth is a listed side effect of Minocin. Does anyone know what

that is? I mean,

if you have that side effect does it mean you are peeing too much and

are getting dehydrated, or does it mean water is being pulled from your

kidneys to your stomach? In other words, why does your mouth get dry?

And, is anyone taking Minocin regardless of the side effect? I took

Minocin for three

months and experienced dry mouth the whole time, but it was a small

price to pay for

the benefit. Anyone a long-term user with Dry Mouth?

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Thanks for letting me know. My mouth is so dry in the morning. It was not

that bad in the beginning but after a while it got worse. I also sleep with

me mouth open and I thought that was the reason

Sue AIH

Wis

[Guest guest]

<< I'm doing all the water I

can manage, 1/2 body weight in ozs. Would certainly

appreciate any help.

Deanna >>

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Hi, Deanna:

I've read your e-mail and I'm at a loss to help you much. First, it may

depend on if you're taking anything else, maybe some prescription meds. Are

you?

You say you're drinking lots of water. Then how much? And are you eating

lots of fiber?

Please check out Dr. Cabot's website at: liverdoctor.com. she has

some very helpful books out about diets and all. Also, she has a wonderful

product called Fibertone. I have tried it before with wonderful results.

Beforehand, have you tried psyllium? You can buy it at the health food

store. But you must remember you need to drink 8 to 12 oz. of water per day

to help your body work, always. Dr. Cabot always recommends to sip on your

water all day instead of drinking it all at once.

I wish that I knew your problem and could help you. Someone here may be a

lot more efficient than I am. I'm mainly gallstone forums. But I do have a

constipation problem if I don't work on it.

Best thing to ask anyone is: Are you taking any medicine? This is because

some medicines actually cause very bad constipation. Especially many

antidepressants. And I know firsthand that pain meds do in a big way.

Another point, you may need a good enema. Many on this site know places

where you can go to and get one. However, I would love to. It's too

expensive for me. I'm basically 'poor.' But I know also that there's many

recipes for good home enemas.

Let me know what helps you.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hello,

It seems that there are two ways:

1. Can you do something else instead of taking Homozon?

2. Can you reduce the side-effect, i.e. dry mouth?

As for the former, many people here can give you advice, but I'd say

you can try to drink aloe vera juice and see what happens. Search the

archives (see bottom of this page) for a series of recent posts with

the title " aloe vera juice " . I've taking it for a week now, and it

sure seems that the quality and consistency of my eliminations have

improved significantly, to put it in academic terms. It works (when

it works) for both constipation and the opposite condition. Psyllium

husk, as was mentioned, can also be good (especially after taking it

twice a day for several weeks), but taking both should not be

necessary, as far as I understand.

As for the second point, people with dry mouths have often a disease

called Sjogren's syndrome (they often have dry eyes, too). I'm not

saying you have it, but if you want to know about means to cope with

dry mouth (to the extent it's possible), you can search the web (e.g.

with http://www.google.com/ ) for Sjogren. It's difficult to cope

with it at night, unfortunately.

-- Helge

>I have

>fibromyalgia with many serious issues, long standing. I

>am 51, and after a lifetime of fighting constipation, and

>having fewer and fewer bms, the bowels now refuse to work

>at all. I have been taking Homozon for several weeks, and

>although it is effective in moving the bowel, it's creating

>another problem for me. Dry mouth. It's gotten so bad that

>I can't sleep at night, keep waking up almost choking. I don't

>get much sleep anyway, so this is a serious bother. I was

[Guest guest]

Dear Liz,

I read your concern about 's disease. Have your taken your basal

temperature? That is when you wake in the morning and put a mercury

thermometer under your arm for 15 minutes. This should give you exact

temperature. This will tell you if your thyroid is off. You may want to try

it. I ordered Dr. 's book. Absolutely packed with vital information.

It gives you a great overview and also a questioner to help you ask your

doctor all the questions you need to know. I always find it best when I know

what I am talking about. Then I can make the most of my visit with my

doctor. It sounds like your doctor is up on natural thing though because the

medical field does not recognize Dr. 's theory and calls it quackery.

They have such a long way to go.

Many Blessings,

Deb

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DRY MOUTH

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi group,

>

> I am new to this group and very ignorant. I have

>

> fibromyalgia with many serious issues, long standing. I

>

> am 51, and after a lifetime of fighting constipation, and

>

> having fewer and fewer bms, the bowels now refuse to work

>

> at all. I have been taking Homozon for several weeks, and

>

> although it is effective in moving the bowel, it's creating

>

> another problem for me. Dry mouth. It's gotten so bad

> that

>

> I can't sleep at night, keep waking up almost choking. I don't

>

>

> get much sleep anyway, so this is a serious bother. I was

>

> taking the product at night before bed, as that seemed to work

>

> best for me, so I switched to mornings, but it only made the

>

> tiniest bit of difference. If I reduce the Homozone dose at all,

>

>

> then the bowels do not move at all. I'm doing all the water I

>

>

> can manage, 1/2 body weight in ozs. Would certainly

>

> appreciate any help.

>

>

>

> Deanna

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Deanna, My doctor was wondering if I am developing s

Disease. Some of the symptoms are dry eyes and mouth,

constipation

and a sensation in your skin. There are other symptoms but I

don't

remember them all. However relief from some of these symptoms

is

to eliminate all sugar and refined carbohydrates, no breads.

Have you tried eating only a vegetable diet while taking the Homozon?

If you are willing to try it out, let us know if you get a good

result. I hope

for you some success.

Liz D

DRY MOUTH

Hi group,

I am new to this group and very ignorant. I have

fibromyalgia with many serious issues, long standing. I

am 51, and after a lifetime of fighting constipation, and

having fewer and fewer bms, the bowels now refuse to work

at all. I have been taking Homozon for several weeks, and

although it is effective in moving the bowel, it's creating

another problem for me. Dry mouth. It's gotten so bad

that

I can't sleep at night, keep waking up almost choking. I don't

get much sleep anyway, so this is a serious bother. I was

taking the product at night before bed, as that seemed to work

best for me, so I switched to mornings, but it only made the

tiniest bit of difference. If I reduce the Homozone dose at all,

then the bowels do not move at all. I'm doing all the water I

can manage, 1/2 body weight in ozs. Would certainly

appreciate any help.

Deanna

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Dear Deb, Tell me the name of the book, I want it! Can I get

it

at the book store or do I have to look for it online? I didn't

find

much information about this disease on the web.

This disease was mentioned to me when Doc was debating if I had

thyroid trouble or not. He gave me a paper with a checklist.

One

side listed thyroid symptoms and the other side listed symptoms for

's disease. I checked more off on the thyroid side and my

temperature was very low that day. Now I am taking Armour for

it.

This does not rule out in my mind that in the near future this

disease

could still be developing. My constipation did not improve by

much

after treating the thyroid. (I contemplate now and then to take an

extra tablet-but don't want to end up with another serious problem)

I would like to mention that I am on an antidepressant that does

cause constipation. My doctor is changing it. I tossed

everything

out that could slow down my system. I have to give thanks for

Homozon for getting my bowels to move again, this results is shown

to me because now when I take a laxative, It Works!

Another thing that can cause constipation is food sensitivities. We

are

all familiar with foods disagreeing with us and giving us the diarrhea

fit.

Well, constipation could occur and we don't realize it is an offending

food.

I read that taking billberry is a treatment for diarrhea. I was

taking that

every day for pain behind my eyes. After Homozone cleaned much

junk out, my eyes don't pain like that anymore. So I am glad I

don't

need to rely on taking bilberry. My eyes are still bothering me but

in

a different way. Milk or dairy products can cause constipation

also.

Re: DRY MOUTH

Dear Liz,

I read your concern about 's disease. Have

your taken your basal

temperature? That is when you wake in the morning and put a mercury

thermometer under your arm for 15 minutes. This should give you exact

temperature. This will tell you if your thyroid is off. You may want to

try

it. I ordered Dr. 's book. Absolutely packed with vital

information.

It gives you a great overview and also a questioner to help you ask

your

doctor all the questions you need to know. I always find it best when I

know

what I am talking about. Then I can make the most of my visit with my

doctor. It sounds like your doctor is up on natural thing though because

the

medical field does not recognize Dr. 's theory and calls it

quackery.

They have such a long way to go.

Many Blessings,

Deb

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[Guest guest]

I basically do the same thing ...except I have 2 cats who like to drink the

water so I fill an old water bottle half full, freeze it , then pull it out

before bed and fill it with fresh water ......cats cant drink it and it stays

cold most the night.....Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/20/2002 12:06:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

StarDantzer@... writes:

> Does anyone else experience this as a symptom? I have been heving it now for

>

> about 3 weeks and it is very annoying.

>

> a

>

Dear a,

Yes, many of us have dry mouth, usually caused by medications.

Every pharmacy has OVER THE COUNTER (meaning inexpensive, non-RX remedies in

this case), ...called " Saliva Substitute. "

Just ask.

No amount of water will help this dry mouth, but the artificial salivas work

very well.

I've tried many forms, tiny lozenges called " Salix, " a mouth spray called

" Salivart, " drops, and, now, my favorite, a gel called " Oral Balance. " It

comes in a tube, like a small tube of toothpaste, and you squeeze about 1/2

inch or so onto your clean index finger & put it into your mouth. Don't

insert directly into your mouth from the tube, as it could contaminate the

contents of the tube.

Use as often as necessary for comfort.

Hugs, a

[Guest guest]

Biotene mouth wash is also excellant for dry mouth and helps put good

bacteria back in mouth. I get it at K-mart, it is in a white bottle and is

about 5 dollars.

[Guest guest]

Dear a,

Thank you SO much for this information. Dry mouth drives me crazy...sometimes I

can't even swallow because my throat is so dry it seems to stick together, my

tongue feels like it is glued to the roof of my mouth, and I feel like I'm

choking.

I have often wondered why I can drink so much water that I'm about to float away

and it doesn't relieve this annoyance. It's especially bothersome at night,

although I drink a lot of water all day. I can drink 3 or 4 LARGE glasses of

water at one time, and still the feeling of dryness is there and I don't feel

like my thirst was quenched at all.

This information was very enlightening, and I'm glad to know there is a simple

remedy. I will certainly get some and try for myself in hopes that it works!

Love ya,

Rose

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From a:

<snip>

No amount of water will help this dry mouth, but

the artificial salivas work

very well.

I've tried many forms, tiny lozenges called

" Salix, " a mouth spray called

" Salivart, " drops, and, now, my favorite, a gel

called " Oral Balance. " It

comes in a tube, like a small tube of toothpaste,

and you squeeze about 1/2

inch or so onto your clean index finger & put it

into your mouth. <snip>.

Hugs, a

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In a message dated 2/21/2002 10:21:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

toil_for_lyme@... writes:

> This information was very enlightening, and I'm glad to know there is a

> simple remedy. I will certainly get some and try for myself in hopes that

> it works!

>

> Love ya,

> Rose

>

>

Dear Rose,

You're most welcome. Don't worry, it WILL work, very well at that.

I've been thru it all.

Hope to meet you someday, the sooner the better.

Will you be at the Lyme conference in April? I will.

Hope to meet others there, so look for me, any of you Lymies who will be

there.

I love putting faces to my cyber friends.

Hugs, a

[Guest guest]

Most of the time, but worse at night.

Ken and wrote:

> For those who experience dry mouth, is it dry most of the time or just at

> night?

>

> Thanks,

>

> (RA 25+ years, AP since Nov. 97)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I picked up Sjogrens about 1 1/2 years ago. A less than positive

manifestation of my femenine side! Anyway, it is more of a problem than my RA at

this point in my recovery.I have been, very slowly, getting better. Caffine,

nicotine, and sugar will create additional dryness! I still do all three.

Two drugs that increase saliva and tears- Salagen and Evoxac. I do'nt use

either. Too expensive and the side effects.$1.oo+ per tablet.

I just drink a lot of water. Sugerless candy helps. Salt will dry you out

also.

HTH Al R.

Re: rheumatic dry mouth

Most of the time, but worse at night.

Ken and wrote:

> For those who experience dry mouth, is it dry most of the time or just at

> night?

>

> Thanks,

>

> (RA 25+ years, AP since Nov. 97)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bee,

Thanks for the reply. Referring to your suggestion, " You can

also massage the spot under your tongue behind your bottom

teeth " , I found a painless solid lump the size and shape of a small

marble that I may see the doctor about?

Greg

-- In , " Bee Wilder "

<beeisbuzzing2003@y...> wrote:

> When you feel thirsty drink 6-8 ounces of water with 1/4 tsp.

ocean sea

> salt and the juice of 1/2 lemon added. Coconut oil helps your

body

> utilize water in your body. In fact, water cannot get into the

cells

> where it is needed without good fats such as coconut oil. When

you

> feel dehydrated it may be caused by too little good oils, rather

than

> too little water, but it is good to have enough of both.

>

> If you have a dry mouth it is possible because your saliva glands

are

> clogged, which is common with candida overgrowth. Do massages

under

> your chin and around the underside of your jaw to get them

unclogged.

> You can also massage the spot under your tongue behind your bottom

> teeth.

>

> Bee

>

>

> > Can't explain why I get thirsty/dry mouth after I consume

coconut

> > oil. I seem to notice it more at night when I take it before

bed.

> My > mouth seems to stay dry all night. I'm curious if this

happens to

> > anyone else. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Dear Greg,

Yes, you may want to check out the lump under your tongue with your

doctor, but you may find by massaging it several times a day it will

get smaller. You can also use a strong sea salt rinse with warm water

and hold it in that area for at least 2 minutes at a time, or use 1/2

3% hydrogen peroxide and 1/2 sterile water as a rinse, again holding it

for 2 minutes. When I had candida I had several small hard lumps in the

same area, but rinses and massaging made them disappear and my mouth

was no longer dry.

Sorry, I may have been getting your name wrong.

Bee

Greg wrote:

> Thanks for the reply. Referring to your suggestion, " You can

> also massage the spot under your tongue behind your bottom

> teeth " , I found a painless solid lump the size and shape of a small

> marble that I may see the doctor about?

[Guest guest]

I found Oasis at Walmart and it is helpful. I even carry the spray bottle form

in my purse, incase I need it. So I guess that I just learned that even after a

transplant one is still going to have Sjorgren's syndrome?

Jj Cathcart <JJCATHCART@...> wrote: I just found the new

mouthwash someone suggested.Oasis.and YES, It is so much better then our

Biotene!!!! I couldn't believe the difference.you have got to look in your drug

stores to find it. I still use the Gen Teal drops for my eyes......... but with

my summer allergies they hurt and burn most of the time. I just hold a cold wet

cloth over my face and eyes.feels good. I am used to it. Joanne

Jj Cathcart

jjcathcart@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the tip on the mouth wash I will definitely look for it.

My eyes were like yours and after a few days with the restasis the

burning stopped(except when I missed a few days), and my eyes are

doing better this year with the pollen being so high.

Hope you had a good day

the WV hillbilly

[Guest guest]

This is a joke. I have turned the internet upside down only to find the info

shown here to treat dry mouth and it doens't do diddly squat unless ones dryness

is minor. I'm sorry but it just doesn't cut it and doctors dont seem to

understand. They don't feel waht we do and seeing a thousand patients like us is

not even equivalent to being in our shoes for 5 minutes. It is so sad that this

condition has existed for centuries and STILL no good way of treating it. STILL

no salivary gland transplant, only done in mice and maybe on the occasional

cancer patient whose salivary gland was damaged by radiation. EVERYONE is better

off than us, jesus. Sjogren's was first diagnosed in the 30's and doctors are

still clueless. The most advanced country in the world is about as useful with

this diagnosis as being born in a 3rd world country!

Who has had successs using antibiotics for their dry mouth? Or dry eyes, dry

throat, dry anything for that matter? Thanks!

P.S. Lemon flavored things help us salivate yet they are acidic and can cause

more tooth decay! What the heck are we to do? Evoxac and Pilocarpine will help

dry mouths that still make stimulated saliva, if you cant make that you're up

you know what creek. Not to mention the side effects. A whole lotta sweating and

other crap for that little bit of saliva for 10 minutes. Yey.

<RNMSW@...> wrote:

Dealing with Dry Mouth?

No matter how much I drink throughout the day, my mouth is uncomfortably dry,

and it's getting worse. What causes this?

Dry mouth or " xerostomia " is due to insufficient secretion of saliva. This

happens to everyone occasionally; you're most likely to notice dry mouth if

you're nervous or under stress. But dry mouth that is more long lasting is most

likely to be a drug side effect. Hundreds of drugs, illicit, prescription and

over-the-counter, can cause dry mouth. The commercial ones usually responsible

are decongestants, diuretics and other blood pressure medications,

antidepressants, antihistamines, muscle relaxants, drugs for urinary

incontinence, and those used to treat Parkinson's disease. If you take one of

these or any other drug regularly, ask your doctor or pharmacist to suggest an

alternative that doesn't cause dry mouth.

Dry mouth can also be a symptom of an autoimmune disease such as rheumatoid

arthritis or Sjogren's syndrome or related to conditions like diabetes and

Parkinson's disease, and it is a common and unpleasant side effect of radiation

therapy to the head and neck. If you are having trouble chewing, that, too, can

lead to dry mouth. Dry mouth is more than just an uncomfortable annoyance; it

can lead to serious dental problems. Saliva helps prevent tooth decay by washing

food and plaque off of your teeth. It also limits the growth of bacteria that

can damage tooth enamel and cause gum disease. Your dentist or physician may

recommend medication to stimulate the flow of saliva if your problem doesn't

resolve. Here are some other suggestions that may help:

-Sip water frequently during the day, and keep a glass of water at your bedside

at night. Adding a little lemon juice can help stimulate saliva flow.

-Avoid both salty and sugary foods.

-Avoid alcohol (and mouthwashes containing alcohol), caffeine and tobacco. All

can dry the mouth.

-Suck on sugar-free hard candy or chew sugarless gum to improve your saliva

flow. (the sweetener Xylitol helps reduce cavities, but avoid lemon-flavored

hard candy - it turns saliva acidic, which increases the risk of tooth decay.)

-Use a humidifier at home.

-Try commercial saliva substitutes - available at drugstores - to help keep your

mouth moist.

While you're dealing with dry mouth, make an extra effort to keep your teeth and

gums in good shape: Be sure to brush twice a day and floss daily to prevent

plaque build-up, and have your teeth and gums checked regularly.

Weil, M.D.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA400162

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[Guest guest]

B. Ansley wrote

> I too have experienced dry-mouth from hard sleeping since taking MMS

and it

> went into high gear when I started trans dermal magnesium therapy. I

don't

> think it's a direct result of anything except harder sleep.

HI:

I have starting getting severe dry mouth about a year ago, and I am 72.

I am extremely careful what I eat. I buy and cook all my food.

I have traced my dry mouth to the use of MSG, since I only eat what I

cook at first it was a mystery.

The I started to suspect the dry berries and nuts.

If hot water is poured on and allowed to soak for a couple of minutes,

no dry mouth, if I neglect the soaking the dryness follows a hour or so

later.

Some preservatives have similar effects.

Cheers.

R

[Guest guest]

Some preservatives have similar effects.Cheers. R===

So do many many prescribed medicines.

I wasn't told of that side effect of a pain medicine I was given after a car wreck where my neck and back were hurt.

Now my teeth are a mess at the gumline from sleeping with a dry mouth.

Dry mouth can ruin your teeth in short order.

deb h

[Guest guest]

Are you sure it is not sulfites, as in sodium metabisulfite, rather than MSG?

The sulfites are used as a mold and yeast killer, a food preservative, especially for fruits and wines.

Dan

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RSent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:21 AM Subject: [ ] Re:Dry Mouth

B. Ansley wrote> I too have experienced dry-mouth from hard sleeping since taking MMS and it> went into high gear when I started trans dermal magnesium therapy. I don't> think it's a direct result of anything except harder sleep.HI:I have starting getting severe dry mouth about a year ago, and I am 72.I am extremely careful what I eat. I buy and cook all my food.I have traced my dry mouth to the use of MSG, since I only eat what I cook at first it was a mystery.The I started to suspect the dry berries and nuts.If hot water is poured on and allowed to soak for a couple of minutes, no dry mouth, if I neglect the soaking the dryness follows a hour or so later.Some preservatives have similar effects.Cheers. R

[Guest guest]

Hi, Liz.

I had dry mouth from chemotherapy years ago and I did not try any of

those things. I hope they help significantly more than the artificial

saliva stuff I tried--- " Salivart " and another one for which I cannot

remember the name. It does seem to me that nothing can begin to come

close to replacing the natural production of the salivary glands. I

hope your brother's salivary glands were not irreparably damaged by the

radiation. If that is the case, I wonder if chewing xylitol gum might

not be better than anything...though, if there are few to no salivary

glands functioning I am not sure chewing gum would do much for your

brother, either. I am very sorry to hear of his condition, as I know it

is very bothersome indeed, and that it can cause significant tooth and

gum damage, as well. In case your brother had not had it emphasized to

him by the doctors, it is extraordinarily necessary for him now to take

the best possible care of his teeth and gums so as to minimize

deterioration of them over the coming years.

Best wishes and best of health,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/20/08 5:08:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

winiecki@... writes:

> I've been swishing (pulling) oil for a few months now and find it very

> helpful,

>

I have read about this for a long time and wonder if you can describe exactly

how this has helped you?

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

I've been swishing (pulling) oil for a few months now and find it very

helpful, and lately have been putting xylitol in my bedside water

bottle and swishing that at night. Since xylitiol is a 5 carbon sugar

it kills bacteria in the mouth so would help as he was hydrating with

water to kill bacteria at the same time. I hope the dry mouth

resolves.

On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:54 AM, breathedeepnow wrote:

> I

> hope your brother's salivary glands were not irreparably damaged by the

> radiation. If that is the case, I wonder if chewing xylitol gum might

> not be better than anything...